Poll: PS4 not backwards compatable: uh-oh PS3?

[xPixelatedx]

Given that they spent a good 45 minutes repeating how social the PS4 is, the info I got was sketchy at best, but the gist of it is no, the PS4 is not backwards compatible with any of the 3 generations of Playstaion games (at least not the ones you have). Knowing this, it seems rather foolish to buy any game on the PS3 now, especially if it's a multi-platform game. Realizing that, I started to wonder if PS3 game sales might take a dive as time progresses this year.

Do you think PS3 game sales will stay steady the rest of the year, now that people know they won't be playable on the console that is supposed to replace their PS3? The worst part is this seems terribly unfair to any developer that has yet to put their game out on the PS3. *coughLastGuardiancough*

 

[Mr.Mattress]

I was pretty much done with the PS3 anyways. I also don't have any plans to buy the PS4 at launch, based on what's shown (The only game that interested me was the first one, "Knack", but it felt so much like a Nintendo Game that I was simply saying "That's a Nintendo Game!" as they showed it).

Still, it's gonna suck for The Last of Us, because their sales are now gonna be affected by the PS4's launch. And Rayman Legends for the PS3 will suffer too...

 

[tippy2k2]

No it will not.

I have a PS3; I will use said PS3 to play PS3 games on it.

If I decide to buy a PS4, I will still have the PS3 to play PS3 games on. I've never really cared for backwards comparability so this really does not matter to me in any way, shape, or form.

*Also Note: I did not bother watching the presentation. I make my decisions once the systems actually come out and pay virtually no attention to the PR build-up that companies do before the systems come out.

 

[Savagezion]

Nah, it makes sense because of PS3s archaic architecture. Plus they recently dropped PS2 support so this is nothing new for PS1&2.

 

[J Tyran]

I don't think it will matter all that much, some of the PS4 games will also be released on the PS3. They didn't say it but with Gaikai games you own/bought with PSN might be streamed to the PS3, hopefully they wont charge again like they did with PSP games on the Vita.

 

[BrotherRool]

This was pretty expected, I#m interested in how this streaming PS1, PS2, PS3 games business is going to work, but generally a game should only take a couple of weeks to complete, so a PS4 on the horizon isn't going to be a big deal

 

[Racecarlock]

Ok, seriously, this is getting fucking ridiculous. Not only does it remove a massive back catalog of games that people could play on the ps4 while wating for the ps4 games, but it's also really pathetic to begin with.

Coders in their basements have managed to emulate (not saying I have them) a gameboy advance, n64, xbox, ps2, ps1, gamecube, 3D0, neo geo, and countless arcade machines, but the multi million dollar corporation is the one having trouble with it.

You know those guys emulating a ps2 on the PC? Hire those guys to engineer your backwards compatibility. I mean, they essentially got a PC to think it's a ps2, so they could probably very easily make the ps4 backwards compatible. It doesn't look like those emulators took a lot of money to build, either, so you could probably do it very cheaply.

 

[Full]

This confirms that I will buy a PS3 when the PS4 comes out, so I can get to all of those PS3 exclusives I missed at a decent price. Sounds about right.

 

[xPixelatedx]

Ok, seriously, this is getting fucking ridiculous. Not only does it remove a massive back catalog of games that people could play on the ps4 while wating for the ps4 games, but it's also really pathetic to begin with.

Coders in their basements have managed to emulate (not saying I have them) a gameboy advance, n64, xbox, ps2, ps1, gamecube, 3D0, neo geo, and countless arcade machines, but the multi million dollar corporation is the one having trouble with it.

You know those guys emulating a ps2 on the PC? Hire those guys to engineer your backwards compatibility. I mean, they essentially got a PC to think it's a ps2, so they could probably very easily make the ps4 backwards compatible. It doesn't look like those emulators took a lot of money to build, either, so you could probably do it very cheaply.

I think the only way it could be backwards compatible is indeed emulation, but I don't see it emulating the PS3 because of how wonky those games have to be coded. However, considering the power of the console, there is absolutely no reason in the entire world why it shouldn't be able to emulate a PS1 or PS2. It would just be software they could install, but they probably aren't even willing to do that since they removed that from the PS3 as well. That will limit their catalog a lot and it will hurt them out of sales for a long while. Especially if the next Xbox can play 360 games. People can then buy the new Xbox knowing they can still play their 360 games while they wait for newer games to come out.

 

[Racecarlock]

Ok, seriously, this is getting fucking ridiculous. Not only does it remove a massive back catalog of games that people could play on the ps4 while wating for the ps4 games, but it's also really pathetic to begin with.

Coders in their basements have managed to emulate (not saying I have them) a gameboy advance, n64, xbox, ps2, ps1, gamecube, 3D0, neo geo, and countless arcade machines, but the multi million dollar corporation is the one having trouble with it.

You know those guys emulating a ps2 on the PC? Hire those guys to engineer your backwards compatibility. I mean, they essentially got a PC to think it's a ps2, so they could probably very easily make the ps4 backwards compatible. It doesn't look like those emulators took a lot of money to build, either, so you could probably do it very cheaply.

I think the only way it could be backwards compatible is indeed emulation, but I don't see it emulating the PS3 because of how wonky those games have to be coded. However, considering the power of the console, there is absolutely no reason in the entire world why it shouldn't be able to emulate a PS1 or PS2. It would just be software they could install, but they probably aren't even willing to do that since they removed that from the PS3 as well.

I still have a Ps2. Think I'm going to buy another ps2 when this one dies. I'm not paying for games I already bought.

 

[VanQ]

Do you have a PS3? Then play your PS3 games on your PS3! This isn't rocket science.

Ok, seriously, this is getting fucking ridiculous. Not only does it remove a massive back catalog of games that people could play on the ps4 while wating for the ps4 games, but it's also really pathetic to begin with.

Coders in their basements have managed to emulate (not saying I have them) a gameboy advance, n64, xbox, ps2, ps1, gamecube, 3D0, neo geo, and countless arcade machines, but the multi million dollar corporation is the one having trouble with it.

You know those guys emulating a ps2 on the PC? Hire those guys to engineer your backwards compatibility. I mean, they essentially got a PC to think it's a ps2, so they could probably very easily make the ps4 backwards compatible. It doesn't look like those emulators took a lot of money to build, either, so you could probably do it very cheaply.

You clearly have no idea how emulation works. Know why there aren't any good PS3 or 360 emulators yet? It sure as hell isn't because no one has broken into the PS3 or 360 to figure out how. We know how. It's just that even top of the line PCs have a hard time emulating those terrible pieces of hardware. You really expect a console to be able to do that?

 

[TheSapphireKnight]

I really don't understand the thought process. With these cycles being so long it just boggles my mind that they wouldn't do this.

 

[dragongit]

They have enough exclusive games that have enough hype to keep them going through the rest of the year. Last of Us, Beyond 2 souls, that God of War game that I couldn't give 2 craps about.

People were still using their Wii up until the last day, and its slew of exclusive cool titles was shit, but I bet you from here on there are going to be a lot of people turning in their PS3, without knowing it's not backwards compatable. Buyer beware as anything else.

If you really want to play your old games, keep your PS3. I still have my old PS1 and PS2 in storage and they are still playable. I'll probably do the same for the PS3 when the time rolls around.

 

[DoctorImpossible]

This confirms that I will buy a PS3 when the PS4 comes out, so I can get to all of those PS3 exclusives I missed at a decent price. Sounds about right.

This is most likely what I'll end up doing, assuming you'll still be able to find one. And I'm sure at the very least used ones will be around awhile, but I always get a little tense when stuff that I haven't bought yet gets discontinued or replaced. And I don't see new PS3's being produced anywhere near as long as the PS2 was.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

It won't effect my purchasing decisions because I don't really use backwards compatibility function on the consoles I do have...which I guess is a lie since I play PSX games on my PS2 and, Wii games on my U but the point is, I don't plan on grabbing a PS4 yet (if at all...need more info on the thing) and there are a ton of PS3 games that I need to catch up on. Of course this doesn't mean I'm grabbing day-1 triple A titles; I'm grabbing bargain games that were $60 triple-A's back in when they were released years ago.

 

[thesilentman]

Ok, seriously, this is getting fucking ridiculous. Not only does it remove a massive back catalog of games that people could play on the ps4 while wating for the ps4 games, but it's also really pathetic to begin with.

Coders in their basements have managed to emulate (not saying I have them) a gameboy advance, n64, xbox, ps2, ps1, gamecube, 3D0, neo geo, and countless arcade machines, but the multi million dollar corporation is the one having trouble with it.

You know those guys emulating a ps2 on the PC? Hire those guys to engineer your backwards compatibility. I mean, they essentially got a PC to think it's a ps2, so they could probably very easily make the ps4 backwards compatible. It doesn't look like those emulators took a lot of money to build, either, so you could probably do it very cheaply.

You clearly have no idea how emulation works. Know why there aren't any good PS3 or 360 emulators yet? It sure as hell isn't because no one has broken into the PS3 or 360 to figure out how. We know how. It's just that even top of the line PCs have a hard time emulating those terrible pieces of hardware. You really expect a console to be able to do that?

Right, and PS games are made to be optimized on hardware that's nowhere close to a PC game's optimization.

OT- What's wrong with keeping our PS3s again? Unless we dump HDMI outputs immediately, there's nothing stopping us from playing PS3 games.

 

[Jacco]

When the 360 came out and it was revealed it only had limited backward support, I threw my hands up in disgust because I would have to go buy another old Xbox to keep playing 1st gen games I liked like Turok, Mercenaries, Black, etc. Now that it is gone and I can't find them anymore, all of those games that I loved are gathering dust. I was really hoping the new generations would keep backward compatibility with their current gens so that exact thing wouldn't happen again. I really Hope Microsoft keeps compatibility.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

That's a shame. One thing that made the PS2 so awesome was I could keep playing my PS games on it too. Ah well. I'm hardly surprised, given that the current gen gets more and more hardware intensive so keeping the old capability on board with the new stuff is probably more trouble than it's worth. I could be totally wrong though.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

When the 360 came out and it was revealed it only had limited backward support, I threw my hands up in disgust because I would have to go buy another old Xbox to keep playing 1st gen games I liked like Turok, Mercenaries, Black, etc. Now that it is gone and I can't find them anymore, all of those games that I loved are gathering dust. I was really hoping the new generations would keep backward compatibility with their current gens so that exact thing wouldn't happen again. I really Hope Microsoft keeps compatibility.

Sorry to hear that one.

I just don't get why it can't emulate the PS3 to play the older machines games, this one has a lot more power in it... I'm not all that knowledgeable on this sort of stuff, but it just doesn't add up to me.

 

[wintercoat]

Ok, seriously, this is getting fucking ridiculous. Not only does it remove a massive back catalog of games that people could play on the ps4 while wating for the ps4 games, but it's also really pathetic to begin with.

Coders in their basements have managed to emulate (not saying I have them) a gameboy advance, n64, xbox, ps2, ps1, gamecube, 3D0, neo geo, and countless arcade machines, but the multi million dollar corporation is the one having trouble with it.

You know those guys emulating a ps2 on the PC? Hire those guys to engineer your backwards compatibility. I mean, they essentially got a PC to think it's a ps2, so they could probably very easily make the ps4 backwards compatible. It doesn't look like those emulators took a lot of money to build, either, so you could probably do it very cheaply.

You clearly have no idea how emulation works. Know why there aren't any good PS3 or 360 emulators yet? It sure as hell isn't because no one has broken into the PS3 or 360 to figure out how. We know how. It's just that even top of the line PCs have a hard time emulating those terrible pieces of hardware. You really expect a console to be able to do that?

Right, and PS games are made to be optimized on hardware that's nowhere close to a PC game's optimization.

OT- What's wrong with keeping our PS3s again? Unless we dump HDMI outputs immediately, there's nothing stopping us from playing PS3 games.

Unless, of course, you don't own a PS3, and backwards compatibility would have been a strong draw for you. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who doesn't own a PS3, but is interested in the PS4. Considering the history consoles have with launch titles being rather shitty, having such titles as God of War, Infamous, and The Last of Us to play would be a good incentive to buying a PS4.

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