Women are human beings, therefore they like rubbing their genitals on other people's genitals just as much as men do.
Poll: Question: Are women less affected by the attractiveness of others, or just hide it better?
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I hope you're not directing that at me?manic_depressive13 said:
I never claimed anything to be facts, these are just conclusions that seem logical given my personal experiences.. Opinions are different than facts.
Well men usually have a stronger sex drive than women.
Women aren't able to mask their attraction because its some universal gender trait, they just have less of an urge to mate.
Women aren't able to mask their attraction because its some universal gender trait, they just have less of an urge to mate.
You don't have to be a genius to know that women are more sophisticated in what they find attractive than men. That's not subjective; it's literal fact. Men are coursing with testosterone 24/7, whereas women only ever have the same amount of hormones in their body as men do during their period. While a high libido in women isn't unusual, it's usually a result of that women having more testosterone in their body than average, and on a less biology-related note, simply having a perverse or sexual personality. But all that really means it that men have naturally higher sex drives. It ultimately means very little in terms of one's sex life. You like sex, really like sex, or are asexual.
So yes. Women do care about the attractiveness of others, and are affected.
So yes. Women do care about the attractiveness of others, and are affected.
Men might have a stronger sex drive on average, but I just think they manage to hide it better. 1 of the 3 girls/women I've been with was a sex maniac. As in, she wanted it all the time, every day. Another had a very...'healthy' sex drive you'd probably only expect from a man. And from what I've seen, women are all about sex as well. Maybe they just...aren't as inclined to go that intimate with a stranger.
While I am always hesitant to make generalizations, I do suspect that this has quite a bit to do with hormones. I recall a study that mentioned women who are using certain forms of birth control tend to be more generally attracted to men, even those that they would ordinarily find "less attractive". Testosterone is a hell of a drug, and I suspect has quite a bit to do with the overtly sexual language and drive of gay male couples. (Again, generalization, but for the sake of posturing I have noticed this among many of my gay friends.) Essentially, my suspicion is that the difference in male and female hormones is what leads to this phenomenon. Personally, while I do of course find men attractive, it is extremely rare that this will have any influence on my behavior. I am also a bit of an odd bird in that it takes quite a bit to pique my interest. I'm sure it also has a bit to do with society, as well. To this day, the majority of my female friends with highly defined sexual agency is dwarfed by men who are comfortable with the same. Maybe in time things will even out a bit more!
(On the topic of sexuality in general, my friends do a Podcast and they had a guest who had some interesting things to say about this subject!)
http://podbay.fm/show/542228532/e/1385408197?autostart=1
(On the topic of sexuality in general, my friends do a Podcast and they had a guest who had some interesting things to say about this subject!)
http://podbay.fm/show/542228532/e/1385408197?autostart=1
since when did men do that on mass, we've always had those adages and anecdotes about dudes just not getting women, ever. and more often then not the dudes i know just shrug and go back to our business, women are pretty fey at times to them. for me both sexes are pretty fey but at least dudes are simps for the most partLifeCharacter said:
As with LifeCharacter, this. Disturbing amount of pseudo-biology going on.manic_depressive13 said:
Also, I'd like to point out that the way many men react to "the attractiveness of others" isn't some default which women are somehow less than, it's usually a transgression, a microagression. Many men leer and stare. That's not a good thing. Not only because it makes people feel uncomfortable, but because it makes the guy in question look like a shallow asshole who doesn't realise how he looks. It's socially acceptable however for a man to act like this. Women are regularly shamed for their sexuality, or being interested in sex, and judgements are extrapolated to their entire person.
Also, I'm prepared to bet a significant amount of money that what a men think women will find attractive is far different to what women actually find attractive in men. Men on average could stand to try a little harder.
When I developed the actual ability to talk to women and made a few female friends I was surprised at how they would point out the attractiveness of men. I was rather surprised because I guess I had put women on a pedastal and thought they were more attracted to personalities.
Once I was with two women, one rather promiscuous and the other a christian virgin(as far as I know, I dont pry) and this bloke walked past us reeking of some cologne, I thought it was horrible but they looked at each other and then started talking about how hot that guy was and how he smelled great. It was the virgin who started saying that stuff too. Total objectification.
Sometimes id carpool with the more promiscious woman I mentioned to Crossfit, and shed always point out all the buff dudes jogging on the bridge with their shirts off on the way to the gym, Like I care about the shirtless dudes lol.
Once I was with two women, one rather promiscuous and the other a christian virgin(as far as I know, I dont pry) and this bloke walked past us reeking of some cologne, I thought it was horrible but they looked at each other and then started talking about how hot that guy was and how he smelled great. It was the virgin who started saying that stuff too. Total objectification.
Sometimes id carpool with the more promiscious woman I mentioned to Crossfit, and shed always point out all the buff dudes jogging on the bridge with their shirts off on the way to the gym, Like I care about the shirtless dudes lol.
I don't know what to make of that.LifeCharacter said:
That sounds like a random simp.
Even then I've had generations of men that have told me they have straight up not understand how women thing bold quiet earnestly.
Either way I don't think this could be applicable to most NT men.
But I don't know that's NT shit but if they were that's kinda really dumb.
Given you bring up hormones, I have some direct experience with this, and changes in hormone levels can do some crazy stuff. It is difficult to objectively assess your own behaviour, but given the correlation between when i've started and stopped certain kinds of treatments that mess with hormone levels, it's difficult not to notice how much effect it has on my feelings, particularly when it comes to how often (and how easily) I find things sexually arousing, (what kind of things arouse me can change too), and to some extent, how many agressive/angry I can get. (Though this seems more related to sudden changed in hormone levels than anything in particular)symphonymarie said:
Of course, since assessing my own moods isn't a very reliable thing to do, and I don't exactly have minute by minute charts of my hormone levels, it is still largely guesswork, but it does stand out how it changes as the medication does.
As to the OP's question, that's a little more ambiguous. Personal experience tells me there likely is a difference, but it's not an all or nothing kind of thing. (But the op said 'less affected, NOT unaffected, which I would say is true)
That's not to say there aren't other issues. You really do have to be more careful as a woman. It's not really something that's just OK.
But... Then again, less frequent thoughts ....
I don't know. I'm not easily aroused, and don't find many people all that attractive in a physical sense, so... I just find it confusing...
As a male I have no real place to comment here but I just wanted to comment on something...
I can look at woman and lust but there's no actual attractiveness there.
To me, woman aren't actually attractive until I get to know them.
This may be common with all men or I may be in the minority. I'm not exactly sure to be honest. Stereotypes being what they are it really feels like many men are genuinely attracted to physical beauty and are willing to put up with a lot if it means being with someone outwardly gorgeous.
I can look at woman and lust but there's no actual attractiveness there.
To me, woman aren't actually attractive until I get to know them.
This may be common with all men or I may be in the minority. I'm not exactly sure to be honest. Stereotypes being what they are it really feels like many men are genuinely attracted to physical beauty and are willing to put up with a lot if it means being with someone outwardly gorgeous.
Yeah, I guess it is a bit weird... really, the whole neck/shoulders area can be pretty attractive. I think it's probably got to do with muscle definition - generally if a guy's in good physical shape, then the muscles and tendons in their throat and collar stand out more. So it's attractive because it's indicative of physical fitness.Zhukov said:
On the other hand, it's not like I know anything about anatomy, so...
On girls or guys? Or both?Vault101 said:
Can't say I've ever noticed that guys really have much in the way of hip bones. As for girls, visible hip bones just make them look malnourished to my eyes.
I guess that's one way to make me offer someone dinner. Perhaps that's what they were planning all along.
You are on to something OP, there's even some sweet science in that area. Generally speaking, women are less visual people than guys. We still are about attractiveness, it's just that other things are playing into it a bit more for us than for guys.
Is he confident/competent? A good provider? Does he have options? Ambition? All those things make a man highly attractive, so much that girls would overlook a not-so-great visual attractiveness if other "switches" for attractiveness are pulled, more so than guys. A guy that is super interesting, funny and confident in his abilities can be just-ok looking and still pull them hotties no problem.
Is he confident/competent? A good provider? Does he have options? Ambition? All those things make a man highly attractive, so much that girls would overlook a not-so-great visual attractiveness if other "switches" for attractiveness are pulled, more so than guys. A guy that is super interesting, funny and confident in his abilities can be just-ok looking and still pull them hotties no problem.
