Poll: Races

[Twilight_guy]

No, there are different skin colors but races don't exist. Look back in time a few hundred years to when people lived in small areas and never traveled far and there was no such thing as "race" some guy had slightly darker skin or lighter skin, but no one cared. The idea of "races" was invented. Anyone who thinks people are different in some way because they posses different amounts of melanin is just being dumb. It's like saying that people are different races because some guys are 6 feet tall and some are 4 feet tall and so they are inherently different.

 

[OriginalError]

It is very obvious to me (as an American-Eskimo) that the Inuit race is superior in every way. In addition to our amazing ice gathering abilities, I believe we were the first to discover that penguins were so delicious!

//J.

 

[manaman]

No, there are different skin colors but races don't exist. Look back in time a few hundred years to when people lived in small areas and never traveled far and there was no such thing as "race" some guy had slightly darker skin or lighter skin, but no one cared. The idea of "races" was invented. Anyone who thinks people are different in some way because they posses different amounts of melanin is just being dumb. It's like saying that people are different races because some guys are 6 feet tall and some are 4 feet tall and so they are inherently different.

Arrg, gezz, come on. Stop it. There are races, look at the post right above your one. Race just means common decent. You are confusing the words species and race.

 

[manaman]

How the hell did that turn into a double post. I edit the thing and it makes a second?

 

[manaman]

I'm happy the treatment works well for you.

The patented head buster.

But no, really. I don't see a real difference so I don't care, whether I'm using correct terminology or not.

Its not about there being a difference (which there is) nobody said there was separation in the species among the races, we are all human.

This is like saying we should not have the terms man and women because because you think so.

 

[manaman]

So, when people say that there's only one race of humans... does that mean that being racist is impossible? Perhaps we need to update that little bit of vocabulary, hmm?

Replace "racist" with "melanin...ist"? Okay, I'm bad at coming up with new words. Somebody help me out, here.

You guys gotta remember, It isn't all in skin color. Imagine seeing an asian man, but with a black man's skin color. A black man but with an Irishman's skin, hair and eye collor. Its about facial structure and vocal tones too.

heritage-ist?

If you hated the Dutch, or the spanish, or all people from a certian small island in the Pacific ocean, you would still be racist. Race means either common origin, or common ancestry.

 

[AtticusSP]

Racism should be saved for fantasy.
Fuck Elves.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Biologically, the concept of "race" is absurd. Humans have been a single specie for hundreds of thousands of years, now.

"Race" as a sociological concept only exists in some areas to refer to distinct ethnic groups, and is usually an extremely polarizing term, even when it's not bloody useless.

 

[Dys]

Race is defined by culture as much, if not more than physical appearance isn't it?

 

[-IT-]

Yes there are different races (races != species!), but it doesn't matter cause under 'the hood' where pretty much all the same. (Although races DO matter for some things, like medication)

 

[Manbro]

There are different races and denying that is just ignorant of facts. Black people and white people do have certain facial structures and traits that they do not share in common. They aren't different species, but they are a different race.

But does any of it really matter? No, people should be treated equally no matter what their race.

It's just no use denying that they are of a different race just because you think so.

 

[Valiance]

Honestly, I wish people could see us all as humans...

But people go back to what country they're from.
Or what state/province they're from.
Or what part of that state/province they're from.
Or what town they're from. You know, pride in New York, or Boston, or Pittsburgh..etc.
Or what PART of town they're from. (BROOKLYNNNNN)
Or what STREET they're from.
Or what BLOCK they're from. (LINDEN BLOCK REPRESENT, HARR DURR)
Or what FAMILY they're from...

Etc, etc.

I don't know why we have such a stupid gang mentality of "Mine is better" instead of "I'm from here."

 

[Fists]

People are different due to what genes they inherit, people born from african lineage get different genes to those from north east european. Their are some innate abilities found in genes that are most common in some 'racial' groups, this does not include intelligence from my point of view (artistic, scientific etc) but more so athletic and other physical atributes which make them more suited to different tasks and activities. Indigenous africans and australians are often naturally good sprinters or marathon runners but their melanin would make them less suitable for an arctic expedition because they would produce less vitamin D (assuming they wear cold weather clothes, some people dont in the arctic and some get sunburnt)

I agree that saying there are no races is stupid but saying that in the modern world their is any predisposition for a person of a race to do something well or not is considerably more stupid. What is significant is culture and environment which guide the developement of what portion of cognitive function is genetic, although the nature vs nurture argument is still quite unresolved in terms of ratio, both play a part for certain.

 

[Arcticflame]

I voted for yes, and one is superior. But with an added qualifier.

Races are generally superior at a particular given task. So each race has it's strong points and weak points. But everyone knows that, you are blind if you think genetic heritage has no role at all in deciding what you are good at. It's not a rule, but it's certainly a blurred guideline.

And I mean physical traits, not mental. Could be disaster if I left that out.

I don't want to finish up with all that obvious crap about how anyone can be good at anything, if you try hard enough, no rule is golden, blah blah blah, but if I don't someone may try to tell me that as a response. So... anyone can be good at anything, if you try hard enough, no rule is golden, blah blah blah.

 

[lenin_117]

Race pretty much means species. If not, then it's a random barrier put down only by people's false knowledge.
A species is a group of organisms who can only reproduce with each other. Tell me, if you took a willing Texan and a willing Mongolian, would they reproduce? Yes.

There's not really any room for opinion here.

All you have really done is replace the word race with species, used it incorrectly then shown us how the usage of species doesnt apply. First off, race does not equal species. Interspecies mating/breeding does occur (think breeds of dog or asses[donkey/horse]).

 

[latenightapplepie]

I voted for yes, and one is superior. But with an added qualifier.

Races are generally superior at a particular given task. So each race has it's strong points and weak points. But everyone knows that, you are blind if you think genetic heritage has no role at all in deciding what you are good at.

The concept that there are human races has been scientifically disproven. Modern genetics has conclusively falsified it. The visual differences that people use divide humans into races in fact are only the result of a tiny fraction of the human genome. Humans are too genetically similar for 'races' to exist.

It is very possible that you are much less genetically simliar to another member of your own 'race' than you are to a member of a different 'race'.

 

[Arcticflame]

I voted for yes, and one is superior. But with an added qualifier.

Races are generally superior at a particular given task. So each race has it's strong points and weak points. But everyone knows that, you are blind if you think genetic heritage has no role at all in deciding what you are good at.

The concept that there are human races has been scientifically disproven. Modern genetics has conclusively falsified it. The visual differences that people use divide humans into races in fact are only the result of a tiny fraction of the human genome. Humans are too genetically similar for 'races' to exist.

It is very possible that you are much less genetically simliar to another member of your own 'race' than you are to a member of a different 'race'.

That fraction is all that counts.
And humans are not too similar for races to exist. I can tell 80% of the time (at worst) someone's race. This is the concept of race. Human perception.

Or are you trying to tell me that two african americans commonly have children, with the general traits of asians?

I didn't think so.

Our perception of race is the genetics which we see that define race, not all genetics taken into account. After all gender is not racially exclusive, however under the definition you brought forth, two women are closer to the same race than a man and a woman, irregardless of their genetic heritage.

 

[ArcWinter]

Perception is a race? I can make my very own "races" then, by hair color? Eye color? The brownies over here, greenies over here, blues on their own? No, because human perception depends on the human. That would not work at all.

 

[EMFCRACKSHOT]

You are all human people, get over it. I know you wish you were aliens but you arent so .
The xenomorphs are superior in every way and we are coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Arcticflame]

Perception is a race? I can make my very own "races" then, by hair color? Eye color? The brownies over here, greenies over here, blues on their own? No, because human perception depends on the human. That would not work at all.

Human perception made the concept of races dependent on particular things. E.g. Skin colour, facial features etc. But the actual basis of what creates these features into a pattern is the origin of the features. What caused the location of a person to gain these features in order to best survive in the environment they are in?

So no, perception is not the race, perception allows for the concept of a race to be brought forth. After all we cannot easily perceive our inner organs, so as of yet I haven't seen a race based upon our kidneys. But we see racial stereotypes about every other one of our outer features.