Poll: Robot sentience

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neoontime

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Gladiateher said:
neoontime said:
Since I didn't answer the poll, I get to say that were f--ked if we do and f--ked if we don't.
I laughed so hard i peed, than cryed so hard I shat.
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Nope. Basically because it isn't.

If you're going to have laws/rules for robots then they have to be tailored towards their weaknesses/strengths or you've just created even more sexism/racism inadvertently.

Star Trek is humanocentric guff anyways, robots need their own laws, decided by them.

*points not too far back into our history*
 

DEAD34345

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Until someone proves the existence of a soul, or some supernatural thing that makes "living" creatures different from machines, I'll consider humans as just a strange kind of machine anyway. So yes, I think they should be treated equally.
 

Jaime_Wolf

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Ben Simon said:
I just saw the video on the "problem-solving robot." It got me thinking about the classic question of robotic sentience. Should a robot that can think for itself, make independent decisions, and appear to have a personality be treated as a person? I say no, because they are artificial, and it wouldn't really have feelings or thoughts as we know them. They would just seem to. If you respond to the poll, assume that there isn't a threat of robotic uprising if you say no.

EDIT: "Ne" is supposed to be "no". I don't know how to fix that.
It is profoundly debatable whether they would have "feelings" or "thoughts". In the end, your brain is a big computational system and it seems rather inconsistent to suggest that a big computational system made of organic materials somehow deserves rights that a big computational system made out of other materials doesn't.

What do you think "feelings" and "thoughts" are? Where do they come from? We think these concepts are really clear-cut, basic, and human-specific, but there are a lot of reasons to believe that nothing special is going on at all - that these are just words describing the phenomena that arise from the combination of lower-level systems in the brain (really, where else would they come from?). True artificial intelligence is likely to be a more or less exact copy of human neural processing, so it would give rise to the same feelings, thoughts, and beliefs. If asked, any true AI would probably confirm having things like feelings, thoughts, and beliefs.

The problem this presents is that there's no real way to verify whether they have thoughts or feelings without know what we're really talking about physically when we talk about thoughts and feelings. The view of AI you're suggesting has been discussed at length in the philosophical literature (this is a nice starting point if you're interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_zombie).
 

Kair

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Oh wait I voted wrong.

I thought the poll was about if we should create such a robot. We should instead integrate robotics in ourselves. It is the inevitable future unless we wish to have robotics 'take over the world' (of course in a different way than portrayed by paranoid popular media). No reification and passionate rhetoric can change this fact.
 

Tanis

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Matthew94 said:
This has been answered. The answer is yes.

Your post, it is...magic and rests this case.

To be said, if/when a machine can go BEYOND the 1s and 0s and reach the 3s and 4s that make sentience, well, us, then why not?
 

Scarim Coral

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Yes it better to treat them as an equel than some kind of a annoying junk. That way they won't hate us so much and decide to wipe us out. How much better in Animatrix the second renaissance part 1 they accepted the two robot dipolmat proposal for peace among the two races?
 

Hagi

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No.

If it ever happens, and it won't until we get a few more magic wand technologies, they shouldn't be treated like people. They aren't people. They are robots.

There should be specific laws made for them that suit them. Not laws that suit us. It's completely ridiculous to think that alternate life forms with equal intelligence will want to be treated like people, and not themselves.

They are robots. They are not people. Give them some freaking respect and treat them as what they are. Don't get stuck in small-minded thinking that everyone thinks, feels and believes the way you do.
 

TheRightToArmBears

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No they shouldn't, that would mean I wouldn't be allowed to attach remote controls to them and use them as robot butlers.

What? You'd do the same.
 

Gennaroc

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The question comes down to whether it achieves self awareness or if it is just programmed to respond in emotional ways, with no truth to the feelings, however convincing they may be. Terminator (specifically Sarah Connor Chronicles) is a good go to for exploring both of these ideas.
 

chris11246

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I say yes. We're basically machines, our dna is our programming, and just because were complex doesnt mean we're different. The only difference is that we're made of organic chemicals and they'd be made of metal.