For Japanese kids I use..shadowstriker86 said:Bit of an odd question. So i'm trying to teach my gf how to say a few words in japanese but she can't roll her R's. it's been 20 min. and she's not even close. I'm also applying for teaching positions in japan to be an english teacher so i know the issue of L's is gonna come up, what do you guys think is harder?
From the title I was sure this thread was going to be taking the piss out of the Welshshadowstriker86 said:Bit of an odd question. So i'm trying to teach my gf how to say a few words in japanese but she can't roll her R's. it's been 20 min. and she's not even close. I'm also applying for teaching positions in japan to be an english teacher so i know the issue of L's is gonna come up, what do you guys think is harder?
I'm currently learning Korean for TEFL there, woo! TEFL bros!Call me Baz said:As a native English speaker learning Japanese for the same reason as OP (TEFL in Japan)
... And I'm also learning through Rosetta Stone, and while it's never had any issues with my 'R/L's specifically, I know your pain.Learning the "Japanese R" sound is strange. Somewhere between R and L but not quite either of them ... Rosetta Stone is rather picky about it, sometimes I swear I make the same noise 20 times and it only accepts the 20th one for no apparent reason.
Thank you but how much is a "bedrock of savings"? lolAngloDoom said:I'm actually in the same position as you, in that I'm hoping to teach in Japan once I've had a few more years building up a bedrock of savings. Personally, I found the 'rolling R' thing to come pretty naturally. I think it really depends on the person.shadowstriker86 said:Bit of an odd question. So i'm trying to teach my gf how to say a few words in japanese but she can't roll her R's. it's been 20 min. and she's not even close. I'm also applying for teaching positions in japan to be an english teacher so i know the issue of L's is gonna come up, what do you guys think is harder?
Good luck with the teaching, by the way.
My idea is to get about £3000-£4000 ($4500-$6000) saved up, since one of the issues that can arise when you head to Japan is that you get paid at the beginning of the month. If you start work on the 2nd and everyone gets paid on the 1st, you go a month without any income. Plus, there are travel expenses, Visas, buying any little bits and bobs that will be necessary, and due to an entirely different electrical system (Japanese plugs run from 100V, rather than most of Europe being at around 220V, but I believe for the US it rests around 120V) perhaps some new appliances, and, of course, accommodation and commuting around Japan in general.shadowstriker86 said:Thank you but how much is a "bedrock of savings"? lolAngloDoom said:I'm actually in the same position as you, in that I'm hoping to teach in Japan once I've had a few more years building up a bedrock of savings. Personally, I found the 'rolling R' thing to come pretty naturally. I think it really depends on the person.shadowstriker86 said:Bit of an odd question. So i'm trying to teach my gf how to say a few words in japanese but she can't roll her R's. it's been 20 min. and she's not even close. I'm also applying for teaching positions in japan to be an english teacher so i know the issue of L's is gonna come up, what do you guys think is harder?
Good luck with the teaching, by the way.
I'm suddenly struggling to think of words in Cantonese that start with an 'r'... and now that I ponder it, I don't think there are... s'why Chinese people have just as much trouble with 'r' and 'l' sounds as Japanese people. Constantly comes out as 'ah-ro' and 'eh-ru' or something dumb like that. And that probably explains why my spoken German can sometimes sound butchered.shadowstriker86 said:Bit of an odd question. So i'm trying to teach my gf how to say a few words in japanese but she can't roll her R's. it's been 20 min. and she's not even close. I'm also applying for teaching positions in japan to be an english teacher so i know the issue of L's is gonna come up, what do you guys think is harder?
AngloDoom said:My idea is to get about £3000-£4000 ($4500-$6000) saved up, since one of the issues that can arise when you head to Japan is that you get paid at the beginning of the month. If you start work on the 2nd and everyone gets paid on the 1st, you go a month without any income. Plus, there are travel expenses, Visas, buying any little bits and bobs that will be necessary, and due to an entirely different electrical system (Japanese plugs run from 100V, rather than most of Europe being at around 220V, but I believe for the US it rests around 120V) perhaps some new appliances, and, of course, accommodation and commuting around Japan in general.shadowstriker86 said:Thank you but how much is a "bedrock of savings"? lolAngloDoom said:I'm actually in the same position as you, in that I'm hoping to teach in Japan once I've had a few more years building up a bedrock of savings. Personally, I found the 'rolling R' thing to come pretty naturally. I think it really depends on the person.shadowstriker86 said:Bit of an odd question. So i'm trying to teach my gf how to say a few words in japanese but she can't roll her R's. it's been 20 min. and she's not even close. I'm also applying for teaching positions in japan to be an english teacher so i know the issue of L's is gonna come up, what do you guys think is harder?
Good luck with the teaching, by the way.
Really, I'm going to spend a year or two full-time working so I have something to fall back on. Plus it gives me more time to learn the language and writing systems while making sure that the whole thing is exactly what I want
EDIT - Converted GBP to USD to make things a little easier.
PatrickXD said:I'm Welsh, the rolling r is a letter in the alphabet of my native tongue, and I can't do it.
Live in England now, so it's no big deal, but I spent the best part of a decade completely incapable of speaking my own language properly.