Poll: Schools stalking students; Does this seem right to you?
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Simple solution. Set your privacy options so that only your friends can see your profile. Also, how can the school see your private messages? I thought they were, you know, private.thingymuwatsit said:
EDIT: I see now, you are using a school issued computer. Just don't use that computer for whatever illicit activities you do. I see no problem as it's their computer. If, on the other hand, they could monitor your activity at home on your own computer, then we have a serious problem.
No they don't (though the government might with the Patriot Act *zing*).Ultratwinkie said:
In terms of actually preventing cyber bullying, yes it's worthless (unless the bullies are idiotic enough to do it in school) - although perhaps apart from those bullying attacks that are hosted on the school intranet/website, or printed off using school printers/photocopiers and stuck up all around the school.
Mostly, I suspect, it is to protect the school from litigious parents whose child is being bullied. By having a monitoring system in place the school can legally say that it is doing all within it's power to protect the children left in it's care during the day, however as the attacks come from outside the school and not via school property, it is not a matter that they can reasonably prevent - and thereby have no legal responsibility should they fail to act to help the child.
The "cyber bullying" is pretty much just an excuse, which is daft because they don't actually need one as they have the full legal right to monitor their network and computers.
I think its fair. Firstly, you probably shouldn't be posting on Facebook or DA at school and secondly its not as if this is going to be broadcasted around the school for all to hear. They've always done this at my school and it doesn't bother me at all as long as its only used for protecting students from bullying and not trying to "censor" the lives of the kids.
I think that the students should hide their accounts from schools.
If schools can get at them, most probably people outside the school can too... it's the person's choice whether to keep their account open or not.
If schools can get at them, most probably people outside the school can too... it's the person's choice whether to keep their account open or not.
The internet is somewhat of the wild west for schools and authorities in general, because whenever they try to apply some kind of fix to a problem (proxy servers, blockers, etc.), some enterprising young nerd will find a way around that blocker (and more power to you!)
However, things should not have to lead to this. This is much the same as denying certain constitutional rights to student. I'm an editor for my school's paper, and we can't say ANYTHING that might possibly be marginally offensive, because as a student made publication, we dont have the same rights under the 1st amendment, which is wrong.
However, things should not have to lead to this. This is much the same as denying certain constitutional rights to student. I'm an editor for my school's paper, and we can't say ANYTHING that might possibly be marginally offensive, because as a student made publication, we dont have the same rights under the 1st amendment, which is wrong.
seeing as there was no link or proof of any kind that this is occurring
i'm lead to believe this is bollocks
perhaps invented to create this very reaction
no school (in the Europe union or the U.S.A., i can't speak for other nations) has the right to access the private lives of it's students
maybe this situation DOES exist, but needs the childs consent, or at least it's parents'
otherwise this isn't just illegal
it's a fucking travesty
i'm lead to believe this is bollocks
perhaps invented to create this very reaction
no school (in the Europe union or the U.S.A., i can't speak for other nations) has the right to access the private lives of it's students
maybe this situation DOES exist, but needs the childs consent, or at least it's parents'
otherwise this isn't just illegal
it's a fucking travesty
Cyber bullying is bad, no discussion, but getting kicked in the face until you shit blood is MUCH worse.SomeLameStuff said:
Fact of the matter is a public school system doesn't have anywhere near the manpower necessary to monitor each and every student's entire internet 'community'. My guess is the incident you referred to is a very isolated incident that is being blown out of proportion. In all likelihood your friend was reported by a fellow student, probably a student that was IN the school play in question.
Regardless, don't get so bent out of shape about it. High School is a joke anyways, just grin and bear it until the whole ordeal is done with.
Regardless, don't get so bent out of shape about it. High School is a joke anyways, just grin and bear it until the whole ordeal is done with.
So they can afford all this shit and issue LAPTOPS to students and yet they can't afford to take every measure and stop physical and psychological bullying? Well fuck you too, school.
I have personally experienced the annoyance of having the school interfering in domains where they really shouldn't have. One of my friends who had recently left the school to do A levels elsewhere posted a message on Facebook asking us what we thought of our school. We expressed our opinions, my post related to the considerable lack of freedom we had compared to other schools, and the general uselessness of their information evening (In my post I did not give names, and my points were valid). Turns out the person who's wall we were writing on was friends with a current teacher at the school, she did not think about the possible implication of this and e-mailed a screen shot to the head of 6th form (basically the head of A-level matters). Now what happened to us afterwards?
The head of 6th form got very annoyed, and called us individually into his office to moan/intimidate/make us wish we never chose to ream at this school for non-compulsory education, all to varying. It just turns out that in my post I went into more detail, and he was most angry at me. Amongst other things he said he could sue me, and that I would not get a university reference from him (an important thing). He set out a list of demands:
-To remove the post
-Write an apology note to this guy only (even though the post could have annoyed several other people.
-He would phone my parents and tell them just how bad I was.
What did I do? Unlike him I did not throw a tantrum and carefully calculated how to get back at the bastard. Events unravelled like so:
-Due to the controversial nature of this incident word spread fast and a lot of students despised him.
-I informed my parents (to ensure he didn't preach his one-sided shit to them), they sided with me. They rang the headmaster and kindly asked him that he ask one of his senior staff members to stop being such a cock. He complied.
In short I won and he lost badly. All I did was remove the post, and now he is forever hated by the student community.
The head of 6th form got very annoyed, and called us individually into his office to moan/intimidate/make us wish we never chose to ream at this school for non-compulsory education, all to varying. It just turns out that in my post I went into more detail, and he was most angry at me. Amongst other things he said he could sue me, and that I would not get a university reference from him (an important thing). He set out a list of demands:
-To remove the post
-Write an apology note to this guy only (even though the post could have annoyed several other people.
-He would phone my parents and tell them just how bad I was.
What did I do? Unlike him I did not throw a tantrum and carefully calculated how to get back at the bastard. Events unravelled like so:
-Due to the controversial nature of this incident word spread fast and a lot of students despised him.
-I informed my parents (to ensure he didn't preach his one-sided shit to them), they sided with me. They rang the headmaster and kindly asked him that he ask one of his senior staff members to stop being such a cock. He complied.
In short I won and he lost badly. All I did was remove the post, and now he is forever hated by the student community.
THAT is illegal unless consent is given. THey are not allowed to liik through you Windows Messenger IMs unless you allow them tothingymuwatsit said:
