To me, that has ruined the idea of a mixture of Metal and Hardcore punk.Doom-Slayer said:I listen to metalcore, deathcore and melodic death metal soooo...yes? I do prefer growls though, the ehavy metal screams in the above posts..eeeeeh...not my thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yr5rn3Sv_4
ABR \m/ Leveler is such an amazing album.kman123 said:It really depends. Bands like Bring Me The Horizon makes me want to rip off their faces and kick their balls in, while bands like August Burns Red I fucking love.
Damn right, because Bruce Dickinson mixes the occasional scream with actual singing, instead of either screaming or growling through the whole song.Ranorak said:Bruce Dickinson's screams are golden.
That is all.
No seriously, shivers up my spine when ever I hear him live.
That's won't get fooled again by the whoGeneral_Tragg said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9rD4Paq0zE&feature=related
I would say so
That's basically all I could add to the discussion right there, although I will say I'm not a fan of the bands you put as examples. (I'm sure someone has already mentioned how to properly embed YouTube.) The screaming doesn't impress me to any degree, frankly. Sounds pretty standard. Thinking about it, there aren't many "-core" bands that can scream and make me like it. Although genres are so mix-and-match nowadays that I can't quite say that for sure.Digi7 said:Screaming in music is a bit of a speciality and acquired taste, as I've found personally. I used to hate it. I found it obnoxious and unnecessary. But then it just grew on me, and now I absolutely FUCKING love it.
It's a matter of taste. Why not do something if you like it and other's do as well?IronicBeet said:Learning how to scream and growl and stuff seems like such a waste to me. If you have the potential to become a talented singer, why ruin your throat by screaming all day?
I thought this was going to be a point about the sampled screaming in 'Downward Spiral' era NIN songs, which is fucking awesome.TacticalAssassin1 said:Hate it, except for one song.
Have you by any chance heard Chelsea Grin and Job For A Cowboy? I think it would fit your taste, as deathcore have more emphasize on on over the top screaming.EcoEclipse said:That's basically all I could add to the discussion right there, although I will say I'm not a fan of the bands you put as examples. (I'm sure someone has already mentioned how to properly embed YouTube.) The screaming doesn't impress me to any degree, frankly. Sounds pretty standard. Thinking about it, there aren't many "-core" bands that can scream and make me like it. Although genres are so mix-and-match nowadays that I can't quite say that for sure.Digi7 said:Screaming in music is a bit of a speciality and acquired taste, as I've found personally. I used to hate it. I found it obnoxious and unnecessary. But then it just grew on me, and now I absolutely FUCKING love it.
I'd like to point you to The Black Dahlia Murder. Specifically the albums Nocturnal [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DcAjsZU3ik] and Ritual [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db9rsICje5s]. The way they work with the vocals is, I think, really nice. And the relatively Lovecraftian feel of their lyrics is a great appeal. (I could also compile a good list of bands that are a bit closer to your examples if you want. I love sharing music.)
Personally, I like screaming or growling more and more as it gets less and less human-sounding. Examples being We Butter The Bread With Butter [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QvNep88AVw] and Dir En Grey [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7IXmV6A6Bk].
Ugh I love screaming but BMTH are just awful, screaming lacks wow factor when you do it all the time to laughable lyricsJust Plain Lazy said:Hmmm... Well this is my ringtone.
Just so people can see what he meant to postDigi7 said:Screaming in music is a bit of a speciality and acquired taste, as I've found personally. I used to hate it. I found it obnoxious and unnecessary. But then it just grew on me, and now I absolutely FUCKING love it. It gets my blood pumping like nothing else.
I find it to be a pure and raw expression of emotion. It's like hearing the voice of your own subconscious, expressing your emotions in a base and visceral form. Screaming is a universal expression of feeling and one of the most psychologically affecting sounds.
This may just be because I'm a loose, angsty teenager with a liking for metalcore and the heavier stuff, but I genuinely think screaming has an important place in artistic expression.
What do you think? How do you feel about screaming? Do you think it has a place in music, or is it just noise? Leave your thoughts.
And I'll just leave some of my favourites here as examples
EDIT: Or maybe I'll just leave a bunch of white squares. Seriously, why the hell doesnt the Escapist have a code list anymore?
And you think that screaming doesn't take lots and lots of training? I've been training for over a year around every day and I can barely make the right sound or give it any volume.evilthecat said:I thought this was going to be a point about the sampled screaming in 'Downward Spiral' era NIN songs, which is fucking awesome.TacticalAssassin1 said:Hate it, except for one song.
Screaming as a vocal technique.. not so sure, a lot of the stuff I like I would describe as shouting, growling or snarling rather than screaming. Screaming kind of implies high pitched vocal noise, and I've only ever heard a few really annoying emo bands do that. Maybe Cradle of Filth would qualify sometimes, but I've pretty much grown out of them..
Also, falsetto singing (a la Bruce Dickinson or other older metal types) =/= screaming in my opinion. It's a lot more difficult and takes a lot of vocal training.