Poll: Should being obese be considered a disability?

[MorteSphere]

Absolutely not.

 

[FlyingSquirrel]

I dont understand why genetics has anything to do with it. Most people with severe genetic disorders, I assume, don't give a toss about what gene caused it, but rather how the fuck they get rid of the disease.
Example: Alzheimers is treated as best possible with medicine. Obesity is best treated with salads and excersise. One always has a genetic trigger, the other only in a small percentage of cases.

I think it has something to with the treatment...

And for the disabled status, I've recently quit smoking. Yay social stigma, thank you for making it socially unacceptable to smoke, it really helps. If smoking was a disability, I would enjoy my brand new parking badge and go up to 40 a day, just because I could.

 

[Jordan Snidal]

if the person has something that directly cause the obesity then yes.

 

[AngloDoom]

To everyone who says obesity is always the fat person's fault. Research suggests otherwise (and I'm not even talking genetics).

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2010/05/obesity-methane-gas-bacteria.html

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/636635.html

My mother has an under-active thyroid. Genetically-speaking she should be more prone to being over-weight than most people she knows and yet she walks to and from work and very occasionally does some yoga, 'boxercise', or whatever the hell she wants to do on the spur of the moment, and eats healthy meals and she still is a healthier weight than most people she knows at her work.

I myself have the opposite problem of having a speedy metabolism that means I have been around 8st, despite being a 5ft 11 individual, putting me deep into the 'underweight' category of the BMI charts. However, I've eaten more and taken to going to the gym and I'm now 11st 6lbs.

Obesity isn't a genetic issue. It's an issue of self-control.

 

[BoredDragon]

Nope and I think Ricky Gervais says my views pretty well
Now, I'm slightly overweight myself but me being a lazy fuck who likes to eat isn't a disability because I could go exercise if I wanted to but I don't.

rofl I saw his special and there was another bit on how it doesn't make sense that fat people get to ride scooters in grocery stores or something like that.

OT: No its not a disease, it might be genetic in some cases, but it's not a disease.

I think the only people who are going to say it is a disease are the people who are obese, but I don't think even all obese people think it's a disease. I believe only the ones who want to be pitied try to convince themselves and others that obesity is a disease.

edit: I just realized I posted something about being fat when my avatar is me in the process of me eating my favorite snacks. XD

 

[BoredDragon]

If they are fat the should have to park in the back of the parking lot

lol and the parking lot should be on an upward slant

 

[Amulus565]

yes, because if someone can be considered disabled after they break there back doing something stupid of there own free will (like say bungie jumping) then why should a person who is obese from eating to much(own choice) be different.

 

[Jamieson 90]

No absolutely not. If you live an active lifestyle then there is no reason for you to be obese. It simply just comes down to lazyness with a lot of people who are obese. They will get no sympathy from me.

 

[BoredDragon]

Btw, a LOT of you Escapist ppl seem to have trouble differentiating "lose" from "loose." As in, when you fuck a prostitute and forget to take the amateur video you made out of your VCR and your spouse finds it, you "LOSE" your wife. When you make a video of prostitute sitting down on an orange hazard cone, she gets a "LOOSE" pussy.

Additionally, the word "DEFINITELY" DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING 'A' IN IT.

Of all the pre-adolescent writing mistakes...

Oh no, run kids, old man spell-check is on the rage again XD

 

[Verlander]

Look, if you're using the word "disabled" merely to classify them as people less able to perform physical tasks than others, then yes, that is an undeniable fact. But then you could say a small-framed man who never exercises and smokes cigarettes is "disabled," because he can't run a quarter mile and can't lift 50 lbs. Disability or not, the label SHOULD NOT be a release of LIABILITY, and what I'm garnering from your post is that you believe it does.

Undiagnosed thyroid conditions and true compulsive eating disorders aside, the vast majority of fat people have no pathology on which to foist blame for their state of being.

Labeling it a "disability" in the U.S. law sense would ENTITLE fat fucks to undeserved perks--essentially reward for not taking care of themselves. And just so you don't think my disgust is reserved only for the overweight, I don't think smokers with COPD should be entitled to disability benefits either. You bring your poor health on yourself with a lifetime of poor choices, it's your own damn fault.

Just to mention, you didn't quote me properly, so I didn't get a notification about this.

All I can say is... damn you're a hateful person. In the US, nobody gets proper social care, so I wouldn't worry yourself about it too much. These people are disabled in as much as they are unable to complete tasks, and when it's taken too far, they are unable to work. Cutting them off from society isn't a solution, sorting the problem out is the solution. If you have an attitude where you feel the best way to make society better is to remove people, you are never going to have a good society.

Rehabilitated people have a better success rate than people just excluded, and you know what? That fat guy your are so openly discriminating against, could do some amazing things if he got the chance. People don't get fat on purpose, to spite you, or because they want to sponge off the state. No one enjoys being obese. It's not attractive, or socially acceptable, and people don't enjoy being unemployed losers either. Fuck sake, other disabled people get help, like hearing aids, or guide dogs or whatever. Get these guys fit and productive members of society, and while doing so, help keep carers and trainers employed. Simply hating on people has never been productive

 

[BoredDragon]

Obesity... Not a pretty thing. I'm glad I'm out of that hole now... So! Who wants cake? xD

I'm sorry but I have to do this. Obligatory Portal reference... GO!!!

"The cake is a lie"

 

[BoredDragon]

Neutral: It depends on the level of obesity. If they are so heavy that they can't support their own weight, then I guess they don't have a choice.

Spoiler: Malicious

Here's a tip. If someone is fat, encouraging them to be even more lazy is not a good idea. Why deprive them of the most basic physical activity. If they want that bucket of fried chicken so badly, they should atleast walk a few blocks for it.

well put my friend, that's why I like where I'm staying at college. If I want any fast food I have to walk like 6 blocks to go get it and 6 blocks to bring back to my apartment

 

[SilverUchiha]

No. It's a choice. Smoking isn't a disability. Procrastination isn't a disability. What makes being obese so different?

*note: It's obviously not a choice when it's the result of a disability. But then it's a symptom, not it's own disability.

I agree with you for the most part... but I am still under the belief that procrastination is a disability. I'll look it up and get some proof... eventually. Maybe tomorrow... or whenever... Whenever is good.

OT: Obesity is not a disability. It's just depressing when it gets out of control.

 

[j0frenzy]

Btw, a LOT of you Escapist ppl seem to have trouble differentiating "lose" from "loose." As in, when you fuck a prostitute and forget to take the amateur video you made out of your VCR and your spouse finds it, you "LOSE" your wife. When you make a video of prostitute sitting down on an orange hazard cone, she gets a "LOOSE" pussy.

Additionally, the word "DEFINITELY" DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING 'A' IN IT.

Of all the pre-adolescent writing mistakes...

Oh no, run kids, old man spell-check is on the rage again XD

And maybe while we are all running, the fat ones will lose a couple of pounds

 

[darkless]

No, because unlike disabilities being obese can be cured by putting down the cake and taking a walk.

 

[Poofs]

it definately shouldnt be as it isnt a disability
disabilities are irreversible problems that NEVER go away
obesity CAN go away AND it is self-caused

 

[Arizona Kyle]

If they are fat the should have to park in the back of the parking lot

lol and the parking lot should be on an upward slant

Please.... it should be a shear drop from where they park XD

 

[e2density]

No, just like emphysema from smoking shouldn't either.

 

[Bihac]

Nope and I think Ricky Gervais says my views pretty well

Damn it, Ninja'd.

 

[ANImaniac89]

No its really is not and this is coming from someone who is overweight by about 60 to 70 pounds.

I think if I even got to the point when my fatness impeded on my day to day living in such away as that I would be considered disabled I would want to be put out my misery.