Poll: Should developers listen to fans?

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ivc392

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Ok,I'm tired so I'm not going too expand of this to much.

Should developers listen to fans?... No. See fans are (I said fanS not a fan, its like people, not a person, dont take it personally) a confused moronic mass. They dont know what they want or how the want it. That doesn't mean they are always wrong, or that they shouldn't be entitled to their own personal opinion. That means game developer should focus on how THEY think a game can be improve. They are the ones trained to design a game.
If you listen to the fans you will get an incoherent game, so desperate to satisfy everyone that's completely unable to deliver at any level.
 

Radoh

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Listen to? Yes they should.
Take what is said into consideration? Sure.
Do everything they say? NO.
 

Hal10k

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I used to be an Admin on the Fallout wiki, until the constant complaining and flamewars from all sides of the fandom finally got to me. I just gave up. I'm going to say that developers shouldn't listen to fans, partially because they're never going to be happy anyway, and partially just to spite them.
 

zehydra

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Depends on what the game company wants to achieve. There seems to be this mistaken conception that somehow game developers are servants to the gamer or something.

A AAA game dev company OUGHT to listen to what the fans say, so as to maximize profits e.t.c.
 

JordanXlord

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Radoh said:
Listen to? Yes they should.
Take what is said into consideration? Sure.
Do what they say? NO.
i argee with this.

lets say World of warcraft.

if blizzard did everything the players say...well it would be Chaos with Classes OP and they would work blizzard to near Death
 

Hyperactiveman

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Developers have the ideas and concepts to make the games... They don't need much other input.

However sometimes I don't think they discuss enough on how they want to make their games based on what the gamers will get out of it and whether that's good or bad.

Also I don't think the right people are getting what they believe is right for the games and that some ideas that are terrible are still being put in place by removing what they believe was broken and replacing it with something they believe works... When actually it's THE COMPLETE opposite!

I'm looking at you BioWare!... ME shud've stayed a full RPG... If not moreso!

For example... The resource mining was a tad annoying in ME1 sure, (I didn't have a problem with it as you weren't expected to find them all) but turning it into a system where you don't even land on planets anymore? And that you no longer have the vehicular sections? What a load of bull.

BioWare were boasting like crazy in the beginning of ME1 that it wanted to offer so much more for variety in the game... That system was going somewhere but you honestly could've considered that it just needed more done to it...

Suggestion: Like how about upgrades to the mako with better weapons, easier traction, probe dropping for easier resouce finding, a droid that goes outside and collects resources, less copy-paste planet surfaces and more dropping down in actual settlements and populated areas both friendly and hostile.

^ God damn that's making me cry because it's not in ME2! :'(
 

Rednog

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If there is something that is broken and needs to be fixed, sure.
Otherwise, no, never. Gaming fans are the most fickle breed to ever exist, seriously even if you do almost everything fans ask for they will still complain. Hell a recent example that comes to mind is FEAR3, people have been complaining recently multiplayer games in FPS's are boring, too much of the same old capture the flag and team death match, they want something new. Oh look FEAR 3 actually did something really unique with multiplayer....and no one cared.
 

Cheery Lunatic

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Only if there are glitches or whatever.

Otherwise gamers just need to pipe down.
They're NEVER satisfied, and trying too hard to please them will just be a headache for everybody.

Let developers develop their game. It's their product.
 

Skorpyo

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Mass Effect 2 was proof positive of exactly how beneficial it can be when a dev has a listen to what critics and fans have to say.

But doing everything that fans TELL them to would be incredibly foolish.
 

Conza

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ivc392 said:
Ok,I'm tired so I'm not going too expand of this to much.

Should developers listen to fans?... No. See fans are (I said fanS not a fan, its like people, not a person, dont take it personally) a confused moronic mass. They dont know what they want or how the want it. That doesn't mean they are always wrong, or that they shouldn't be entitled to their own personal opinion. That means game developer should focus on how THEY think a game can be improve. They are the ones trained to design a game.
If you listen to the fans you will get an incoherent game, so desperate to satisfy everyone that's completely unable to deliver at any level.
Well, I can concede that if you're lucky, you'll be born smarter than the average person. That doesn't make them stupid, just you, smart. So the will of them should still be listened to, at some level. Surveys, beta tests, whatever. Sometimes they know exactly how and what they want, even if other fans disagree.

Take a look at the car industry, for a moment, they often just do 'what they want' with dire consequences to themselves, it's the manufacturers that survey customers, listen to motoring journalists praise and criticism, whom ultimately make an improved upon product in the next generation/release, same concept for gaming is my feeling.

I voted Yes, but I think 'sometimes' is probably the right answer.

Thing is, it should have nothing to do with qualifications, and they certainly shouldn't ignore fans at any rate, so it has to be yes or sometimes for me.

If they didn't listen, and just kept releasing games that were only what they wanted to make (?) AND people still bought them, and still enjoyed them i.e. the majority of fans were still happy, even then, you'd think they'd ask themselves 'how do we keep them happy, what if we do something in the next game they don't like?'. That doesn't mean fans should dictate to the developers either, the developers need freedom of game design and construction.

I like the question though.

Skorpyo said:
Mass Effect 2 was proof positive of exactly how beneficial it can be when a dev has a listen to what critics and fans have to say.

But doing everything that fans TELL them to would be incredibly foolish.
That's your opinion at least, I thought ME2 was a step in the wrong direction, and that ME3 is going to correct many of those mistakes, pointed out by fans like myself, to which, the developers listened, took on board and agreed with.

But hey, it was still awesome, so I mean, they didn't make a 'crap' game, I just preferred the first one slightly, you preferred the second (how much I don't know), so it wasn't a failure to not listen, and public opinion, as in game reviewers, are more on your side, Bioware don't exactly seem to be (thankfully), as they've taken criticism on board, hopefully for the benefit of the third game.
 

DarkhoIlow

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I think developers should listen to the fans and take into consideration what they want from the game or how to improve it to make it more immersive or fun.

Listening completely to what fans want? There are so many different little things that people in general like,which makes us unique.You might encounter a few with similar tastes.The developers have to think how to mold their game to make it best for everybody,even though they might cut a few corners from the game,parts which some might enjoy.
 

BigTortoise

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This is hardly a poll. Of course developers have to listen to their fans. But if they always do that, then all games would be the same now wouldn't it?

I for one am a firm believer that most people are idiots. And if developers have to listen to idiots then I wouldn't blame them if they didn't. You think I listen to user reviews on metacritic? Fuck no, I don't trust normal people.
 

Danceofmasks

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Only when they're not stupid.

I mean, I even heard of people demanding Blasto as a squadmate and love interest for Mass Effect 3.
Seriously? Wtf? Blasto is a character in a movie.
 

cgentero

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Developers do listen to fans, but only their popular opinions, and mostly generalized things and not specifics. So yes frankly if every fan, perhaps except for a few, hate\like something then go ahead and listen, its pretty stupid not to.