Poll: Should noob tubes be banned on cod

[Shepard's Shadow]

You can both get a grenade launcher.

Sounds balanced to me.

That. I mean come one now, it's part of the game. If you don't like it play something else.

It doesn't change the fact that people that use the Noob Tube are the fucking Anti Christ.

It doesn't change the fact that it's part of the game.

 

[Sp00nDuck]

You can both get a grenade launcher.

Sounds balanced to me.

That. I mean come one now, it's part of the game. If you don't like it play something else.

It doesn't change the fact that people that use the Noob Tube are the fucking Anti Christ.

It doesn't change the fact that it's part of the game.

wow you sounded rather dumb then, its part of the game, everyone can get it. therefore level playing field the only thing is some people are better with it than others. much like when i play i am bad at using the sniper rifle, so i accept that and use it anyway as i think its a fun class to play as... maybe its my tactics of running aound with the sniper.

 

[Rylingo]

[HEADING=1]NO[/HEADING]
While I think the attachment should be harder to unlock, outright banning it is just petty and stupid.

You talk like unskilled elements in games have never been banned before. Hello martyrdom!

You must remember that there are many problems with the weapon, the inaccuracy and ammo supply as the most obvious. Sure it's annoying when they kill you, but so do most weapons in the game.

Grenade launchers are better darn accurate actually. Having a noobtube is pretty much +2 kills automatically.
Its far more annoying to be killed by a weapon that requires zero skill and is overpowered beyond belief than it is to be outskilled. When i get killed by using an obscure gun i feel like cheering for the guy. When i get killed by a noobutbe i just roll my eyes.

Shall we ban the Barret.50cal and the Intervention because you can kill in one shot?

No they require skill to get a good K/D with. Noobtubes do not and annoy the hell out of a considerable size of the fanbase.

 

[-Ulven-]

I would agree that the 40mm grenade is a bit overpowered in the sense that the radius of the explosion in MW2 is OP, but I don't play the game and stick to BF:BC2 where the 40mm grenade is survivable and needs to be directed a little bit more.

 

[Sp00nDuck]

I would agree that the 40mm grenade is a bit overpowered in the sense that the radius of the explosion in MW2 is OP, but I don't play the game and stick to BF:BC2 where the 40mm grenade is survivable and needs to be directed a little bit more.

true i like BC2, its damn funny when you sneak up on people by blowing up walls.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

wow you sounded rather dumb then, its part of the game, everyone can get it. therefore level playing field the only thing is some people are better with it than others. much like when i play i am bad at using the sniper rifle, so i accept that and use it anyway as i think its a fun class to play as... maybe its my tactics of running aound with the sniper.

What exactly is your point?

 

[Iron Mal]

Shall we ban grenade launchers in real life also?
People wanted a realistic (Ha, yeah right) modern warfare game. If real life has grenade launchers, then the players just have to suck up the consequences. They begged for it, so it is their own fault, in a way.
You want real guns in games, have to deal with them yourself. I no longer play Call of Duty games.

I once had an arguement like this with someone in CoD, they tried saying that grenade launchers used everywhere and against everything to the exclusion of all else was perfectly fine because (like you said) they exist in real life (although I believe that most casualties in modern combat are actually the result of crew-operated weaponary located a long distance away from the actual conflict rather than infantry, imagine if 9/10 times you got spawn killed by some bastard on an artillery piece X amount of miles from you behind a mountain, that would be realistic but very irritating).

Some try to defend breaks in the game like this by saying it's 'realism', but you don't have to look to hard that they've made more than a few acceptable breaks from reality to make the game playable (oddly enough, reality does tend to get in the way of fun).

Look at things like regenerating health, everyone having a secondary weapon, arbitrary bullet power, the lack of back-blast from rocket launchers, the lack of any form of command or order between players, the way knife fights play out and much more.

We can't really defend it by saying it's realism because it really isn't, the game has broken weapons and abilities and people usually have good reason to complain, that doesn't mean they can expect anything to come of their complaints though (and Bad Company 2 is just as bad in this regard by the way).

 

[faggotron]

@VulakAerr
3 points i want to bring up..
1.
er.. ive plat transformers: wfc and i can safely say that the host migration in trans: wfc is worse than mw2.. i cant connect to ppl who are in the states or in canada.. btw, im from ireland.. and you know what sucks? in trans : wfc, sometimes i cant even connect to ppl in the uk! so seriously, if you wanna complain about host migration, mw2 is not the place to look at..
tho i gotta say.. its irritating.. and with the amount of money activision has, they should have a private server for this thing..

2.
you mention that very few people on this site like mw2..
prove it..
and if its true, i'll just say one thing..
those ppl who like to play mw2 probably arent wasting their time here

3.
bad company 2 isnt as good as it seems.. and im saying this because ive spent enuf time on this game to tell you that,
a. the gun control isnt as tight as mw2/cod titles
b. the team randomization is really really bad.. after every match the team should be randomized, but it doesnt; and just so you know, 4 teams in a tdm isnt a really really great idea..
c. i'll say this game is realistic when my tank can handle more than 2 hits from a grenade..
d. like the dust though, its just that there is too much of it..

 

[Sp00nDuck]

wow you sounded rather dumb then, its part of the game, everyone can get it. therefore level playing field the only thing is some people are better with it than others. much like when i play i am bad at using the sniper rifle, so i accept that and use it anyway as i think its a fun class to play as... maybe its my tactics of running aound with the sniper.

What exactly is your point?

well saying that its unfair cos its in the game is stupid. its like saying its unfair that wal mart sells 2 types of butter but the better one is more expensive. (yeah thats unrelated)
but the fact is everyone can use it so its not unfair. the unfair thing is people moan about being killed in a online FPS.

 

[Rylingo]

Its blast radius is wide enough and the grenade is quick enough that jinxing is useless. And if you manage to close the gap between the first shot and the second, the impact shot will kill you.

People dislike it because it takes minimum skill to use and can cause massive damage. I don't see how people find that hard to understand. Remove it or nerf it to balance the game. Game balance is important.

But that perfectly describes the N-bomb, the Redeemer, the Fusion missile launcher and any rocket launcher from the Quake series, they are all bitches to charge but that's why you play it a bit cagey around a grenade launcher. Grenade launchers have been in FPS games since before the bulk of MW2 players have been alive, they're possible to avoid and so why can't people learn the tactics for it rather than just thinking they can treat an opponent with a powerful weapon as target practice?

I don't deny that explosive weaponry hasn't been around since the beginning. I have to play it cagey every match because explosives have become the main weapon in these games. I can beat a noobtuber fairly easily. But when the ground is erupting all around you with a constant stream of explosions as a whole team simple blows the stage apart, you either have a choice. Grab a noobtube or accept that you will die at random from something that is essentially not your fault.
MW is supposed to be a first person shooter. Not a first person explosion feast. Ive actually seen people blowing themselves up after using their 4 noobtubes. Seriously.

Impact kills are both unrealistic and further the balance. At the very least lower impact damage to a suitable level.

 

[CobraX]

It doesn't change the fact that it's part of the game.

It doesn't change the fact that It's a piece of shit that can rot in hell and same goes for the people that use it. *Takes Happy Pills and Goes to Sleep*

Look man, its just like highlander... THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE (antichrist)

It's also kind of like Highlander in the way where I want to decapitate everyone who uses the Noob Tube.

Your The Man Now Dawg.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

wow you sounded rather dumb then, its part of the game, everyone can get it. therefore level playing field the only thing is some people are better with it than others. much like when i play i am bad at using the sniper rifle, so i accept that and use it anyway as i think its a fun class to play as... maybe its my tactics of running aound with the sniper.

What exactly is your point?

well saying that its unfair cos its in the game is stupid. its like saying its unfair that wal mart sells 2 types of butter but the better one is more expensive. (yeah thats unrelated)
but the fact is everyone can use it so its not unfair. the unfair thing is people moan about being killed in a online FPS.

Um... at some point there was a miscommunication here. I'm not saying it's unfair. I'm saying it is fair.

 

[faggotron]

@27CDruid
to be honest, if there is a game, there would be love and hate..
even if the game is nearly perfect, people would still find faults in it..
i do agree that the tube requires less skill, but hey, you can say the same for the at4 and rpg..

(on a side note, even the game has the title of 'noob tuber' in it.. so i guess infinity ward had already considered the consequences of putting this thing in)

so shall we ban the at4 and rpg as well?

 

[Sp00nDuck]

damn i like toast. also yes i feel that i like BC2 but it feels like it flows less, for example running feels girky, and the knife takes ages. turning feels like you dont want to make the pumb bob thats hanging from your head wobble

 

[Sp00nDuck]

wow you sounded rather dumb then, its part of the game, everyone can get it. therefore level playing field the only thing is some people are better with it than others. much like when i play i am bad at using the sniper rifle, so i accept that and use it anyway as i think its a fun class to play as... maybe its my tactics of running aound with the sniper.

What exactly is your point?

well saying that its unfair cos its in the game is stupid. its like saying its unfair that wal mart sells 2 types of butter but the better one is more expensive. (yeah thats unrelated)
but the fact is everyone can use it so its not unfair. the unfair thing is people moan about being killed in a online FPS.

Um... at some point there was a miscommunication here. I'm not saying it's unfair. I'm saying it is fair.

it was aimed at the person saying that people using them are the anti christ though i am unfarmilliar with how forums work and the quote system as my programming knowledge is mainly focused in C++ so the quote grabbed yours too. woop

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

It doesn't change the fact that it's part of the game.

It doesn't change the fact that It's a piece of shit that can rot in hell and same goes for the people that use it. *Takes Happy Pills and Goes to Sleep*

I personally don't have a problem with it. But I can see why others do. If you don't like it that's fine. But the fact that it's in the game means it's a legitimate "tactic" for people to use.

 

[faggotron]

@LordCuthberton
i dont know who you are, but are you a politician?
or did you somehow join a debate club at some stages of your life?
lawyer maybe?

cuz you present your case well.. and the facts are creditable..

 

[faggotron]

damn i like toast. also yes i feel that i like BC2 but it feels like it flows less, for example running feels girky, and the knife takes ages. turning feels like you dont want to make the pumb bob thats hanging from your head wobble

well said, sir