Poll: Should smoking be made illegal?

[Levi93]

meh i dont care about smoking, the only place it should be banned is in places where there is little/no ventilation so i can at least breath.

 

[jack583]

extremist ruin everything. when i see someone smoking in a spot i have to walk by i don't yell at them, instead i just hold my breath and keep walking. now if that person where to start following me and tried to blow smoke in my face, then i would beat the crap out of them. remember the terrorist attack on 9/11? that was caused by muslum EXTREMISTS, people who took thier religion into their own hands and acted agaist what they were taught and said it was for what they were taught. now the rest of the muslum nation has to deal with the problems cause by a few idiots.

everyone deals with stess in his or her own way. i, for one, think in order to calm down. i like to build things out of just about anything--legos mainly--and i like to buils things that provide an engineering challange; i once came very close to a perpetual motion generator, the design i came up with failled, but i had fun trying. all i'm saying is that in case you get yelled at for smoking or are in a situation where you can't smoke; it would be good to have a back up stress-releiver that you can use anywhere.

You'd be surprised how effective just rolling is

you mean like roling a cigarette between your fingers?

 

[SovietSecrets]

No. If smoking is banned then drinking has to be banned as well.

Drinking doesn't harm your health unless you overdo it. Smoking harms you regardless of amount smoked.

No. If smoking is banned then drinking has to be banned as well.

I don't care what people do if it doesn't harm me or others. Smoking does inherently, drinking doesn't.

Oh right I forgot, because just because drinking doesn't harm you right away(lie), its a lot worse than smoking. Keep on drinking then and end up in the same boat with cancer as a smoker. Or keep on drinking and screw up and go drive. Like smoking over time will cause issues, so will drinking.

smoking = an ABSOLUTE RISK as smoking will cause cancer.

drinking = a potential risk dependent on personal judgment.

nice way generalizing everyone to be an idiot who will do stupid shit. that is the same argument against illegal drugs like pot saying "everyone who smokes pot will become gang bangers and shoot people". nice fucking generalizations there. care to do pot smokers too? what about heroine users? or cocaine users? alcohol gives cancer? talk about bull shit.

Are you a fucking idiot? Smoking is also based on personal judgement. Good job saying that everyone who smokes won't stop and will continue smoking for the rest of their lives. Nicely done there Detective Dipshit. Both are potential risks I hope you realize. If I were to smoke and drink for the rest of my life and anyone else as well, we would all end up with lung and liver cancer. Now before you cry to me about how wrong I am be sure to read the bottom of the post.

No. If smoking is banned then drinking has to be banned as well.

EDIT: Everyone who is quoting me are you all idiots or something? The bottom of this? Heres the bottom, drinking causes just as much problems as smoking. Ever hear of drunk driving, bar fights, abuse due to alcohol, poor judgement under the influence, or alcohol poisoning? Or do all of these just fly past your heads? You don't cancer right away from smoking, you get it later on. ITS THE SAME WITH DRINKING. IF SMOKING GETS BANNED THEN DRINKING SHOULD AS WELL. Fucking hell, think people think

Just to make sure everyone sees it before quoting me again.

Tobacco was the leading cause of death in 2000: 435,000
Alcohol was the third: 85,000

Congrats lets go back 10 years. Death is still death. People die from both, so just because one group dies more then another that means the other shouldn't be banned as well?

People also die from caffiene and prescription medications, so let's just ban those as well. And since people die from diabetes and lack of exercise, lets also get rid of all food that can possibly be fattening, and all food with any sugar added to it.

See now you are thinking how I was when I made this post. Do you understand? If one causes the death then the other abused substance should be banned as well. I just only extended it to alcohol because I would hope people would understand what you just came up with. Now read the bottom of this post as well please. You are the person who gets it.

No. If smoking is banned then drinking has to be banned as well.

EDIT: Everyone who is quoting me are you all idiots or something? The bottom of this? Heres the bottom, drinking causes just as much problems as smoking. Ever hear of drunk driving, bar fights, abuse due to alcohol, poor judgement under the influence, or alcohol poisoning? Or do all of these just fly past your heads? You don't cancer right away from smoking, you get it later on. ITS THE SAME WITH DRINKING. IF SMOKING GETS BANNED THEN DRINKING SHOULD AS WELL. Fucking hell, think people think

Just to make sure everyone sees it before quoting me again.

Lol the people quoting you are morons. You're actually slightly wrong in that the societal harm is significantly higher with alcohol than with cigarettes, not that those idiots will understand. Here's a study conducted by the ACMD (in the UK) before its head (David Nutt) had the audacity to put science ahead of toeing the Government's line, get fired, and signify the end of the ACMD as a trustworthy source of scientific enquiry and its rebirth as a really expensive rubber stamp for government policy: [a href=http://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/opus1714/Estimating_drug_harms.pdf]http://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/opus1714/Estimating_drug_harms.pdf[/a]. Skip to the graph on page ten if you can't be bothered to read the whole thing.

Thank you, I think I finally understand the problem with all the idiots who are quoting me.


My Post

I am not saying that drinking is worse then smoking. As the second person I quoted figured it out, I was saying if one harmful thing should be banned, then the others should be too as well. I was just using alcohol as an example of that because it was the next leading cause of death due to abuse that I know of. I just didn't extend that to all things. Now can you morons finally understand? Its just me saying if one harmful thing should be banned, then the rest should too. Thank you last two people who understand somewhat at what I was getting at.

nice argument, "everyone around cant recognize my genius"? did you come up with that all by yourself? you cite no research, and cite no damn evidence at all except "my genius" which isn't genius its redundant, failed logic.

What genius? What research do I need to cite? For what even? I made no claims. I simply said if one thing is banned because its bad for health and kills then everything should be banned for that same reason. I just used alcohol as an example and then every person (you included) jumped on my ass without even thinking about it. I assumed people would understand basic reasoning of if one thing is banned then the next thing should be banned and so on and so forth. I had to spoon feed it to you to finally get it, which you do now. Don't be mad because you couldn't figure out something so simple.

oh so we are idiots when you fly around your opinions without properly explaining them? i see how you have to constantly editing your posts to better explain things. don't blame other people when you cannot even explain your stance on the issues. so who is the idiot? the ones who get the wrong message from a badly worded opinion or the person who cant speak English well enough to explain what he is saying in the first place? then says we are the "idiots" and cant "understand your genius"? get a damn grip hypocrite. even the escapist's rules say "you have unlimited time to make a post, there is no excuse for badly worded posts". next time fully explain your stance otherwise people will get offended and the moderators will come down on you especially if you start insulting everyone in the damn thread.

I will gladly insult everyone this damn thread. Why were others able to figure it out? Oh let me answer that for you, they took the time to think about what I said and answered exactly how I wanted them to. Hell my friends could figure it out without reading the edits. Are you seriously gonna sit there and tell me my sentence was so beyond understanding that if you took a few minutes to think about the concept and apply it that you wouldn't get the same conclusion? You have a mind, fucking use it before you get high and mighty with you. I had to spoon feed it to your brain dead head in order for you to understand at as you are no longer arguing with me about it.

oh? so why did half the fucking escapist jump at you then? hell the escapist is called the smartest place on the damn internet for a reason. just because you can't speak proper English doesn't mean you can insult people. also what friends? for all we know you can be lying and making up shit.

Half the fucking Escapist did exactly what you did, they posted without fully thinking. The smartest place on the internet? Have you seen the posts and topics here? Or do you just make up bullshit to try and disprove me? This is far from the smartest place on the net. Friends, you know people who I know. Yet you don't so I will agree its null. Either way people understood it when they took the time to THINK BEFORE THEY POSTED. Something no one else did. Even you have to agree that its possible to come to the same conclusion if you think about my words. Someone else did. I will say it again do not get pissy at me because you couldn't use rational thinking.

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so you are gonna call 1/2 the escapists idiots? and insult everyone? when we use the report button and have dedicated mods? have fun with your mod wrath pal. you're gonna need it, and you call us idiots? wow.

Yeah I will because I don't need to turn to Mods and cry to them when I know I am wrong. I accept it gracefully and know that I was proven incorrect. I also think before I speak. Thank you for threatening and calling me an idiot because I stood up for my words and arguments. World needs more people who cry like you. Fin.

*looks back at all the edits you have made so people can understand you*

oh yeah you really think before you speak. /sarcasm.

you didn't stand up for SHIT. all you do is say "your an idiot because your not me, LOL" and that is against site policy. our rules are very clear on that and will incur mod wrath without hesitation. if this site is full of idiots like you say then why bother coming here?

Nah of course not. I let all the people who said I was wrong walk all over me. No I proved them wrong and including you. I made those edits because people were, again you, were unwilling to fucking think and make an easy deduction that others made. Why couldn't you?

"wah wah wah, i have been walked over by people now i have a mission to prove them wrong over the internet so they will respect me!"

*facepalm* jesus christ. i am not pissed that you are saying alcohol is bad. i am pissed because of your damn ego and your constant insults to the people who use the damn site. you refuse to see that and act even more like an ass.

Man you really are an idiot. I mean I thought the other people who refused to see my point were, but you really take the cake. I don't or need your respect, if I see something thats bullshit I will call out on it. Can care less if your feelings get hurt in the process. Can't take an insult? Or do I have to always place nice with morons like you?

 

[interspark]

smoking is a way of forcing people to slowly and painfully kill themselves while dropping money into the governers and politicians pockets, while at the same time, hurting those around them

OF COURSE IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!

this is one of those questions with the blaitently obvious answer that people just turn a blind eye to..... alright, go ahead, quote me and insult my intellegance and judgement, those are my opinions and i plan to stick with them

Forcing people? They know the risks. You almost can't walk five feet without hearing how evil and harmful cigarettes are. If you live in the civilized world, I GUARANTEE no one is being forced to smoke and EVERYONE knows the consequences.

in case you hadn't heard, nicotine is addictive, people smoke them out of peer pressure when they're stupid kids and then can't stop even when they get older! once you start smoking, for whatever reason, it isn't so easy to stop

 

[ninetails593]

Worked for the 30's *puts on fedora* didn't it? Honestly, why not ban meat products and build force fields around trees? Freaking hypersensitives.

 

[ninetails593]

smoking is a way of forcing people to slowly and painfully kill themselves while dropping money into the governers and politicians pockets, while at the same time, hurting those around them

OF COURSE IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!

this is one of those questions with the blaitently obvious answer that people just turn a blind eye to..... alright, go ahead, quote me and insult my intellegance and judgement, those are my opinions and i plan to stick with them

PAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!! What?? WHAT????? AHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! That is the FUNNIEST thing I've EVER HEARD!!! Better than Fluffy-no wait never mind.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Anti-Smokers say it's harmful and they don't like the smell.
Smokers point out the 90% tax they pay that props up the Health service, it's an addiction and it's their choice.
Anti-Smokers repeat it smells bad and some call for the death penalty.

They should print this on the back of cigarette packets.

 

[molester jester]

then explaine my granfathers heart filling with tar.

also i just had one of those de'javu (probably not spelled right) moments. like i read your response 3 years ago

I think he covered that in points 2 and 3. He did not say that passive smoking could not do any damage he said it was highly unlikely, Your Grandmother probably lived in the same house as a heavy smoker for 50 + that's going to do some harm, however walking past somebody smoking in the street is not going to harm you in anyway.

 

[Always_Remain]

1:'We had a discussion on facebook' - i loled

2: you are 12 and what is this

You smell of 4chan, my friend. I like it.

The cancer killed /b/ boys, your old memes are not exactly cool and edgy anymore.

/b/ was never good so how can it be killed but shitty memes since all memes are shitty?

I may be asking much for someone from 4chan, but how about speaking in full sentences?

I feel that I'm making it seem like I frequent 4chan often and that makes me feel filthy. So enough of this.

 

[Private Custard]

I think most smoking should be heavily taxed until it is universally socially unacceptable.

i'm fine with people smoking weed, but cigarettes are disgusting and you shouldn't smoke them where people can see you. You should be too ashamed. But it is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally fun to cough at smokers when running by them

What makes marajuana better than cigarettes? Marajuana is in fact worse for your lungs and overall health than cigarettes are. Big gaping hole in your argument.

From the one with no backing to their statement. Just sayin'...

The problem with weed is that you mix it with tobacco in spliffs......tobacco that is usually smoked through a filter, but is now merely passing through an unfiltered roach-end.

Weed (and solid) create a lot of resin when burned, but most of it ends up stuck inside the roach or, annoyingly as it tastes really bitter, on your lips.

If you smoke pure weed and filter the smoke nicely through iced water, it's pretty clean. If I go out and smoke cigarettes endlessly during a drunken evening, the next morning equals totally fucked lungs for a bit. When I was a weed smoker, a night on pure weed in an ice-bong left me with absolutely no ill effects next day.

 

[SovietSecrets]

No. If smoking is banned then drinking has to be banned as well.

Drinking doesn't harm your health unless you overdo it. Smoking harms you regardless of amount smoked.

No. If smoking is banned then drinking has to be banned as well.

I don't care what people do if it doesn't harm me or others. Smoking does inherently, drinking doesn't.

Oh right I forgot, because just because drinking doesn't harm you right away(lie), its a lot worse than smoking. Keep on drinking then and end up in the same boat with cancer as a smoker. Or keep on drinking and screw up and go drive. Like smoking over time will cause issues, so will drinking.

smoking = an ABSOLUTE RISK as smoking will cause cancer.

drinking = a potential risk dependent on personal judgment.

nice way generalizing everyone to be an idiot who will do stupid shit. that is the same argument against illegal drugs like pot saying "everyone who smokes pot will become gang bangers and shoot people". nice fucking generalizations there. care to do pot smokers too? what about heroine users? or cocaine users? alcohol gives cancer? talk about bull shit.

Are you a fucking idiot? Smoking is also based on personal judgement. Good job saying that everyone who smokes won't stop and will continue smoking for the rest of their lives. Nicely done there Detective Dipshit. Both are potential risks I hope you realize. If I were to smoke and drink for the rest of my life and anyone else as well, we would all end up with lung and liver cancer. Now before you cry to me about how wrong I am be sure to read the bottom of the post.

No. If smoking is banned then drinking has to be banned as well.

EDIT: Everyone who is quoting me are you all idiots or something? The bottom of this? Heres the bottom, drinking causes just as much problems as smoking. Ever hear of drunk driving, bar fights, abuse due to alcohol, poor judgement under the influence, or alcohol poisoning? Or do all of these just fly past your heads? You don't cancer right away from smoking, you get it later on. ITS THE SAME WITH DRINKING. IF SMOKING GETS BANNED THEN DRINKING SHOULD AS WELL. Fucking hell, think people think

Just to make sure everyone sees it before quoting me again.

Tobacco was the leading cause of death in 2000: 435,000
Alcohol was the third: 85,000

Congrats lets go back 10 years. Death is still death. People die from both, so just because one group dies more then another that means the other shouldn't be banned as well?

People also die from caffiene and prescription medications, so let's just ban those as well. And since people die from diabetes and lack of exercise, lets also get rid of all food that can possibly be fattening, and all food with any sugar added to it.

See now you are thinking how I was when I made this post. Do you understand? If one causes the death then the other abused substance should be banned as well. I just only extended it to alcohol because I would hope people would understand what you just came up with. Now read the bottom of this post as well please. You are the person who gets it.

No. If smoking is banned then drinking has to be banned as well.

EDIT: Everyone who is quoting me are you all idiots or something? The bottom of this? Heres the bottom, drinking causes just as much problems as smoking. Ever hear of drunk driving, bar fights, abuse due to alcohol, poor judgement under the influence, or alcohol poisoning? Or do all of these just fly past your heads? You don't cancer right away from smoking, you get it later on. ITS THE SAME WITH DRINKING. IF SMOKING GETS BANNED THEN DRINKING SHOULD AS WELL. Fucking hell, think people think

Just to make sure everyone sees it before quoting me again.

Lol the people quoting you are morons. You're actually slightly wrong in that the societal harm is significantly higher with alcohol than with cigarettes, not that those idiots will understand. Here's a study conducted by the ACMD (in the UK) before its head (David Nutt) had the audacity to put science ahead of toeing the Government's line, get fired, and signify the end of the ACMD as a trustworthy source of scientific enquiry and its rebirth as a really expensive rubber stamp for government policy: [a href=http://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/opus1714/Estimating_drug_harms.pdf]http://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/opus1714/Estimating_drug_harms.pdf[/a]. Skip to the graph on page ten if you can't be bothered to read the whole thing.

Thank you, I think I finally understand the problem with all the idiots who are quoting me.


My Post

I am not saying that drinking is worse then smoking. As the second person I quoted figured it out, I was saying if one harmful thing should be banned, then the others should be too as well. I was just using alcohol as an example of that because it was the next leading cause of death due to abuse that I know of. I just didn't extend that to all things. Now can you morons finally understand? Its just me saying if one harmful thing should be banned, then the rest should too. Thank you last two people who understand somewhat at what I was getting at.

nice argument, "everyone around cant recognize my genius"? did you come up with that all by yourself? you cite no research, and cite no damn evidence at all except "my genius" which isn't genius its redundant, failed logic.

What genius? What research do I need to cite? For what even? I made no claims. I simply said if one thing is banned because its bad for health and kills then everything should be banned for that same reason. I just used alcohol as an example and then every person (you included) jumped on my ass without even thinking about it. I assumed people would understand basic reasoning of if one thing is banned then the next thing should be banned and so on and so forth. I had to spoon feed it to you to finally get it, which you do now. Don't be mad because you couldn't figure out something so simple.

oh so we are idiots when you fly around your opinions without properly explaining them? i see how you have to constantly editing your posts to better explain things. don't blame other people when you cannot even explain your stance on the issues. so who is the idiot? the ones who get the wrong message from a badly worded opinion or the person who cant speak English well enough to explain what he is saying in the first place? then says we are the "idiots" and cant "understand your genius"? get a damn grip hypocrite. even the escapist's rules say "you have unlimited time to make a post, there is no excuse for badly worded posts". next time fully explain your stance otherwise people will get offended and the moderators will come down on you especially if you start insulting everyone in the damn thread.

I will gladly insult everyone this damn thread. Why were others able to figure it out? Oh let me answer that for you, they took the time to think about what I said and answered exactly how I wanted them to. Hell my friends could figure it out without reading the edits. Are you seriously gonna sit there and tell me my sentence was so beyond understanding that if you took a few minutes to think about the concept and apply it that you wouldn't get the same conclusion? You have a mind, fucking use it before you get high and mighty with you. I had to spoon feed it to your brain dead head in order for you to understand at as you are no longer arguing with me about it.

oh? so why did half the fucking escapist jump at you then? hell the escapist is called the smartest place on the damn internet for a reason. just because you can't speak proper English doesn't mean you can insult people. also what friends? for all we know you can be lying and making up shit.

Half the fucking Escapist did exactly what you did, they posted without fully thinking. The smartest place on the internet? Have you seen the posts and topics here? Or do you just make up bullshit to try and disprove me? This is far from the smartest place on the net. Friends, you know people who I know. Yet you don't so I will agree its null. Either way people understood it when they took the time to THINK BEFORE THEY POSTED. Something no one else did. Even you have to agree that its possible to come to the same conclusion if you think about my words. Someone else did. I will say it again do not get pissy at me because you couldn't use rational thinking.

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so you are gonna call 1/2 the escapists idiots? and insult everyone? when we use the report button and have dedicated mods? have fun with your mod wrath pal. you're gonna need it, and you call us idiots? wow.

Yeah I will because I don't need to turn to Mods and cry to them when I know I am wrong. I accept it gracefully and know that I was proven incorrect. I also think before I speak. Thank you for threatening and calling me an idiot because I stood up for my words and arguments. World needs more people who cry like you. Fin.

*looks back at all the edits you have made so people can understand you*

oh yeah you really think before you speak. /sarcasm.

you didn't stand up for SHIT. all you do is say "your an idiot because your not me, LOL" and that is against site policy. our rules are very clear on that and will incur mod wrath without hesitation. if this site is full of idiots like you say then why bother coming here?

Nah of course not. I let all the people who said I was wrong walk all over me. No I proved them wrong and including you. I made those edits because people were, again you, were unwilling to fucking think and make an easy deduction that others made. Why couldn't you?

"wah wah wah, i have been walked over by people now i have a mission to prove them wrong over the internet so they will respect me!"

*facepalm* jesus christ. i am not pissed that you are saying alcohol is bad. i am pissed because of your damn ego and your constant insults to the people who use the damn site. you refuse to see that and act even more like an ass.

Man you really are an idiot. I mean I thought the other people who refused to see my point were, but you really take the cake. I don't or need your respect, if I see something thats bullshit I will call out on it. Can care less if your feelings get hurt in the process. Can't take an insult? Or do I have to always place nice with morons like you?

oh wow you call others pathetic when you cant prove them wrong? all you fucking do is insult anyone you come in contact with in some pathetic attempt to be relevant in people's minds. news flash, this is the internet and no one gives a flying fuck if you're right or not. if you really need to feel validated by the people on the internet then you have major problems. maybe in the real world that would matter but here no one gives a damn and generalizations, especially in an attempt to have an E-peen, is plain laughed at. you even said it yourself, your sick of people walking all over you so you come to the escapist to fill that hole only to deny it up and down. get off your ego high horse and become a regular person that doesn't need attention, this is becoming ridiculous. even i can see through the paper thin veil you try to hide your intentions with. you claim to say "i don't need your respect" when you fight tooth and nail to make sure you're "right" and try to change the subject into an argument so you're "right".

your "opinions" don't mean shit on the internet and people will refuse to subject themselves to seeing things from your perspective just because you claim they are "great". your opinions are just as bad as everyone else, and your practically becoming kayne west only deeper in denial. are you gonna interrupt the escapists shows now to say what you like? god forbid we don't recognize your contrived sense of ego or you might throw a fit.

btw, nice way to misspell multiple simple words in your post, and you said you write English well. have fun trying to convince yourself that your right and how you can't be wrong because your "smarter" then everyone else. get a fucking grip. The escapist is full of idiots? fine, leave. nothing is keeping you here. why else would you stay here beyond your own need to be "right"? no one is forcing you to post. you don't need an account to read or watch videos. why be here if you claim its "beneath your intelligence"? you never actually answered that and dodged the question entirely.

on that note, i take my leave. you just seem to be here to say how the escapists are a bunch of idiots, bitching and complaining but oddly keep coming back for more.

If it doesn't mean anything then why did you choose to argue with me this entire time about on the internet? One more thing, I have been here a lot longer then you. In this entire span I never insulted anyone, you are the first because the world can learn a lot from a moron like you. I saw your other posts arguing with people about this, you pulled the same shit I did but then yell at me because I have a bigger ego about it. I assume you will continue this trend of not thinking before posting that has brought me and you on our tiny adventure.

 

[jack583]

then explaine my granfathers heart filling with tar.

also i just had one of those de'javu (probably not spelled right) moments. like i read your response 3 years ago

I think he covered that in points 2 and 3. He did not say that passive smoking could not do any damage he said it was highly unlikely, Your Grandmother probably lived in the same house as a heavy smoker for 50 + that's going to do some harm, however walking past somebody smoking in the street is not going to harm you in anyway.

true in the streets there is less risk. but the thing is--and i've said this before--those who smoke tend to smoke in pack (no pun intended). walking past one smoker might not do much, but walking past a group, or even having to stand near a group, could do some noticeable damage.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Illegal in public places and a heavy tax. Thats what should happen.

Will it happen? Not a chance in hell. Smoking Companies and Beer Companies contribute far too much money to political parties and are far to big. They;d have to be killed slowly, and htats not happening when they will just bribe congressmen.

 

[molester jester]

then explaine my granfathers heart filling with tar.

also i just had one of those de'javu (probably not spelled right) moments. like i read your response 3 years ago

I think he covered that in points 2 and 3. He did not say that passive smoking could not do any damage he said it was highly unlikely, Your Grandmother probably lived in the same house as a heavy smoker for 50 + that's going to do some harm, however walking past somebody smoking in the street is not going to harm you in anyway.

true in the streets there is less risk. but the thing is--and i've said this before--those who smoke tend to smoke in pack (no pun intended). walking past one smoker might not do much, but walking past a group, or even having to stand near a group, could do some noticeable damage.

Really ?
How long does it take you to walk past a person 2 maybe 3 seconds, being within 5 foot of a cigarette or even a dozen cigarettes for that matter, for a couple of seconds is not going to do you any harm. As for standing near them, why are you standing near them if you don't like smoke ? is someone actually physically forcing you to stand next to them ?

As for this noticeable damage, the only way it would noticeably damage you is if you shut your self in a small box with people blowing cigarette smoke into it. standing nearby somebody who is smoking will not harm you even if there is 3 or 4 of them even if you have to stand there for a few minutes it will do no damage in the long run.

You and most of the people on the Escapist need to stop being such hypochondriacs.

There are far worse things you should be worried about than spending a few seconds in close proximity to a smoker. Cause accidentally inhaling 1 lung full of second hand smoke is not going to automatically give you cancer.

 

[Sikachu]

then explaine my granfathers heart filling with tar.

also i just had one of those de'javu (probably not spelled right) moments. like i read your response 3 years ago

I didn't even explain your grandmother's lungs, I just gave you a more likely reason. That said, I'm pretty sure you've remembered the explanation of what killed you grandfather wrong. There's no mechanism by which the heart can fill with tar, no matter how many cigarettes one smokes. Which isn't to say that his heart disease wasn't caused by years of smoking, it probably was.

I love deja vu, it means I get to hide in some walls while some guy smashes a toilet bowl with some other guy's head.

 

[enriel]

If smoking is made illegal, than so should drinking.

Or hell, caffeine.

What makes one mind altering drug so much worse than another? Ban none or ban them all. It comes down to a user's choice of engaging in said activity.

 

[CountryMike]

Should just be legal in your own home and outdoors. Or maybe special 'smoking-clubs'

If smoking is made illegal, than so should drinking.

Or hell, caffeine.

What makes one mind altering drug so much worse than another? Ban none or ban them all. It comes down to a user's choice of engaging in said activity.

Can't be done. Prohibition was a gigantic disaster. They actually also wanted to ban caffeïne, but that couldn't be done on a practical level. It's in a lot of things.

Come to think of it, the whole war on drugs is a disaster too. Money down the drain

 

[MikeFrost]

No. If smoking is banned then drinking has to be banned as well.

Smoking harms you and others around you.

Drinking only harms you.

Both are done by choice, so any third consequential damage (like driving under the influence and running over a guy) would hold that person accountable. Smoking however, doesn't make you guilty for causing other people to breathe in your smoke involuntarily.

These are two different things we're discussing here. One is harmful to the public in general and the other is harmful to the user only. I'd have no problem with smoking being banned from small confined public spaces and keeping alcohol law as it is.

The damage is still done overall. The person who got hit by your car isn't choosing to be hit by your car. You just happened to hit him because you were drunk. There is no way you can say just because one does less then the other, only one should be banned. What applies for deathly causing goes for all.

You're dealing with prevention here, not consequence. Besides, you can still hit a person with your car even if you're not drunk and there's already a CONSEQUENCE for it.

I never said smoke should be completly banned. I said smoking should be kept away from PUBLIC CONFINED spaces. That means you'd still be able to do it on your own home or at a large open space.

Like I said, the damage done by people under alcohol is already well regulated and holds the guy who did it accountable. It's already illegal to drive while drunk, so people who do that are breaking the law. To put it clearer for you: Alcohol is already ILLEGAL if you're driving a car.

So, in this outrageous train of thought, Smoking should be ILLEGAL in places where it can cause damage to thirds. This is under public law, of course, so it wouldn't apply to smoking inside your own house.

 

[creepy_rabbit]

no, our freedom is restrained as it is

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

Nicotine should be classified as a drug. It should be legal though, as should many drugs.

I quite dislike radical straight edge people. They make normal straight edge people like myself seem insane by association.