Maybe I am just biased but Fallout seems to be deeply rooted in the art deco fifties futuristic styling and based heavily in American cold war culture. Transplanting that into a European setting might not make any sense.
Poll: Should the Fallout setting go European (or anywhere else)?
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Eh? Off the top've my head the mystic bullshit seems extremely limited. Temple of trials seemed like something they'd found rather than built, the visions could well happen without Mr. Shaman's influence as a result of the main characters guilt and fears, the only magical bit I can think of would be the shaman being alive at a critical stage but that hardly seems excessive, albeit it'd been more cool to see the ruined place.Denamic said:
If other locations are a must, don't use Europe, it'd be hell to research 1950s culture here, and the massive amount of anti-American sentiment would probably not ring well with the US target audience.
China seems like the best bet if you HAVE to move it somewhere, I'd just like to see an actual connection to the old games beyond the visual and a cameo by an old character whoose immidiate reaction to seeing the player is "I HAVE BECOME A HORRIBLE ABOMINATION, KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE D':" which I will admit seemed very apt for Fallout 3.
Fallout is heavily based on American culture so you couldnt really make a Fallout game set in another country. I am in favor of setting it in another country as long as it isnt actually called Fallout. If they make such a game it should be its own franchise.
If anyplace, I would say London too.Sizzle Montyjing said:
But (and I may be dead wrong about this) I always got the impression that the US and China were the only ones who got bombed to the stone age. I feel like the rest of the world is largely unaffected and is also perfectly happy to let US & China slowly dig themselves out and leave everyone else alone.
Correct me if I am wrong but wars(on the Middle East if I remember correctly) broke out over poor economy and lack of resources. It has been a while since I read up on any of the Fallout Lore.5t3v0 said:
Personally I think they should take a look at a Canadian(mostly because I am Canadian) location. Since a big chunk of story did take place there when the Americans annexed Canada, and it would make sense that they would build vaults as well. The mountain regions of British Columbia would be a new location.
the 1950's America look is the real theme behind Fallout.
the neato 50's cars, the tranquil neighborhoods being reduced to rubble makes it seem like the world really ended, like the actual remains of a once great, but unreachable civilization.
It makes the viewer shocked to see that the characters know nothing of what is considered "average" life for people of that era.
the neato 50's cars, the tranquil neighborhoods being reduced to rubble makes it seem like the world really ended, like the actual remains of a once great, but unreachable civilization.
It makes the viewer shocked to see that the characters know nothing of what is considered "average" life for people of that era.
While I do feel that a Fallout game in nearly any country could be interesting, and worth playing, it's hard to argue what was stated at the beginning of the thread. Fallout is ultimately separated from other games like it (what games?) by it's unique 50's culture carrying to the future... that gets nuked. Take that away and suddenly it's not a Fallout game anymore. Would still be awesome if crafted by Bethesda, but that's not the point.
Addendum: I agree with the poster above me and Bethesda on not knowing for sure what is going on outside of your character's scope is a big part of what makes the post-apocalyptic genre so fascinating.
Addendum: I agree with the poster above me and Bethesda on not knowing for sure what is going on outside of your character's scope is a big part of what makes the post-apocalyptic genre so fascinating.
Fallout follows the Western Mythology canon:
1) Lone, unknown hero wanders into new region/society
2) Hero initially distrusted by society
3) Hero proves to have some amazing ability
4) Villains threaten society
5) Hero defeats villains, saves society
6) Hero joins society as success (and occasionally loses "Hero" status - now fully belongs)
This code is followed through in many "Wild" Western and American narratives, and Fallout essentially follows this same code. Removing America from the equation makes this narrative suddenly redundant and would make no sense. If it were to take place somewhere else, the core plot would need to change - no longer could a "lone wanderer" fit.
Besides, Fallout's design (menus, Vault-Tec mascot, etc) would need to be completely revamped.
...maybe as a spin-off series it could work.
1) Lone, unknown hero wanders into new region/society
2) Hero initially distrusted by society
3) Hero proves to have some amazing ability
4) Villains threaten society
5) Hero defeats villains, saves society
6) Hero joins society as success (and occasionally loses "Hero" status - now fully belongs)
This code is followed through in many "Wild" Western and American narratives, and Fallout essentially follows this same code. Removing America from the equation makes this narrative suddenly redundant and would make no sense. If it were to take place somewhere else, the core plot would need to change - no longer could a "lone wanderer" fit.
Besides, Fallout's design (menus, Vault-Tec mascot, etc) would need to be completely revamped.
...maybe as a spin-off series it could work.
It wouldn't? Seemed to work when Akira Kurosawa took the formula for 'westerns' and used samurai instead of cowboys... and I'm pretty sure he didn't set them in the US.Volan said:
It is an interesting idea, Id like to see the Fallout world extended beyond the USA. Fighting super mutants with Russians accents would be awesome.
No you are correct, I am just stating that STALKER is nothing like Fallout other than the fact that it has radiation in it too. Hell, Stalker Doesn't even have nuclear weapons even mentioned ingame.robert01 said:
Its just a few years of trying to not be a fanboy over anything have caught up with me in burst of fanboyism over anything I like. I hate how its become.
I like the thought of a Fallout game set in London or Moscow (But then again we already have Metro 2033, Russian mole-rats will fuck you up!).
I doubt that there will be a Fallout game set outside of the U.S but a man can dream damn it!
I doubt that there will be a Fallout game set outside of the U.S but a man can dream damn it!
Thanks for clearing that up. Where in the canon do you find out what happened in EU?Daddy Go Bot said: