Poll: Should we boycott EA Products?
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For me, I doing a 'wait and see' approach to Origins. I'm not gonna use it until I know everything about and it has been around for a good while. Maybe EA will get rid of the part where Origins looks at everything in your computer and I do think that's really stupid for them to have that part anyways.kouriichi said:
I still think it's too little, too late. It appears EA is not gonna get rid of Origins any time soon, and unless some miracle happens and EA ditches it I think it will be around for a while.
However, I think going straight to the company and voice outrage is a lot more productive then boycotting. What I think is going to happen is people will use it anyways when they want to play Battlefield 3, find out what happens, and EA gets enough bad press for this and drop that part of the ToS.
Thats the thing. 90% of the people who use it aren't actually going to read the ToS, and will never learn about it.Fiz_The_Toaster said:
We have to stop this before it gets to that stage.
if we let months go by, thats an uncountable amount of information being collected from anyone using the service.
I don't think I own a single EA game (for this generation).
And considering I own most games considered good on the PS3, I take that to mean that EA doesn't make very many good games.
So I answered yes, definitely, just because it wouldn't affect me at all.
And considering I own most games considered good on the PS3, I take that to mean that EA doesn't make very many good games.
So I answered yes, definitely, just because it wouldn't affect me at all.
Activision got on my black list because they essentially were massive dicks to their customers, they murdered a great brand (CoD) and Kotick was being, well, Kotick.
I won't blacklist EA - what they're doing is just being careful. They don't want to get lost in lawsuits because of their new service, so they're just protecting themselves with EULA. It's not the first time they put things like this there, but they never had abused it, and I don't see why would they do that now. You're blowing this out of proportion, people.
I won't blacklist EA - what they're doing is just being careful. They don't want to get lost in lawsuits because of their new service, so they're just protecting themselves with EULA. It's not the first time they put things like this there, but they never had abused it, and I don't see why would they do that now. You're blowing this out of proportion, people.
I wont install origin until their Terms change, I will purchase BF3 and if I cannot play it through origin I will use a work around, DICE still deserves its money for making it, EA doesn't deserve my personal information and will have to learn to play nice or they will lose the PC.
Hell yeah, we should boycott! There is no fucking excuse for them to monitor what we do and the only way to make them realize that that's total bullshit is to starve them of money. You want my fucking money, EA? Well, you're going to have to drop this espionage shit.
If the American revolutionaries could defeat the British, the Egyptians could defeat their leader and a bunch of rebels could defeat Ghadaffi, then we can beat EA.
If you let them spy on what you do on your computer this time, next thing you know they will spy on everything you do!
If the American revolutionaries could defeat the British, the Egyptians could defeat their leader and a bunch of rebels could defeat Ghadaffi, then we can beat EA.
If you let them spy on what you do on your computer this time, next thing you know they will spy on everything you do!
I'm not gonna sign up for the boycott, but I certainly wont be using Origin. EA rarely puts out anything I'm interested and their PC showings are even less so. I might be getting SWTOR but in that event, only as a retail box AND only if it has absolutely no requirement to use Origin. I'll also be sure to read that TOS extra special close.
People call Origin DRM, but it's not, it's more evil than that. People cite Steam or MMO TOS, but prompted by this EA thing I've decided to reread several of them very closely. Steam, for example, unless I'm misunderstanding, only transmits basic computer specs and usage patterns as they pertain to your behavior with Steam. It does not sit there sending back every key you press, every application you run, back to Valve for "storage." MMOs get a little more into it by also monitoring what other applications you run in conjunction with the game as a way to prevent unauthorized third party programs.
Origin, on the other hand, by the wording of the ToS, can sit there and datamine your computer, everything, every last file if they so choose to. If you happen to have a rom of an old EA SNES game, or something you got running on DOS Box, suddenly you're getting letters about copyright infringement.
As someone above said, calling for a boycott in this industry does little, but it is important to inform people, many of which who will never bother to read the ToS, what Origin is doing while it runs. Let people, especially parents, know that this thing is effectively spyware. Use the good scare words that may it sound like a virus and make sure people know this means it's collecting account information for more than just EA stuff.
People call Origin DRM, but it's not, it's more evil than that. People cite Steam or MMO TOS, but prompted by this EA thing I've decided to reread several of them very closely. Steam, for example, unless I'm misunderstanding, only transmits basic computer specs and usage patterns as they pertain to your behavior with Steam. It does not sit there sending back every key you press, every application you run, back to Valve for "storage." MMOs get a little more into it by also monitoring what other applications you run in conjunction with the game as a way to prevent unauthorized third party programs.
Origin, on the other hand, by the wording of the ToS, can sit there and datamine your computer, everything, every last file if they so choose to. If you happen to have a rom of an old EA SNES game, or something you got running on DOS Box, suddenly you're getting letters about copyright infringement.
As someone above said, calling for a boycott in this industry does little, but it is important to inform people, many of which who will never bother to read the ToS, what Origin is doing while it runs. Let people, especially parents, know that this thing is effectively spyware. Use the good scare words that may it sound like a virus and make sure people know this means it's collecting account information for more than just EA stuff.
"EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you"Nimcha said:
They can basically give away everything but your name. This includes usernames and E-mail addresses.
Federal laws prohibit doing it WITHOUT a persons consent. By clicking "I agree", your literally handing over your consent to EA. As i said before, "You literally give them the right to distribute it AS THEY PLEASE".
I'd like to see EA boycotted, because personally I don't think I should have to install a shitty application to buy one or two games from a publisher that I consider to have mostly bad titles. I'd like to see this origin thing crash and burn so they go back to distributing through steam and all my games can be in one place, not because of the massive amount of secret gay porn on my hard drive. Which don't get me wrong, does exist, but I really don't think EA cares to look through all of it.
Only thing I can think of that I'm interested in getting from EA in the next long while is Mass Effect 3, and I'll be getting that on my 360. Anything that they sell through Origin only will not garner them a penny from me, I don't like people rooting through my computer, unless it's me.
That said, I've nothing to hide on my computer, but the thought of anyone getting on it and fucking with my data (even if it is just 'collecting' it) bothers me to no end. Get rid of that shit from your TOS EA and I might be convinced to spend some money on your PC products, until then: NOPE.avi.
That said, I've nothing to hide on my computer, but the thought of anyone getting on it and fucking with my data (even if it is just 'collecting' it) bothers me to no end. Get rid of that shit from your TOS EA and I might be convinced to spend some money on your PC products, until then: NOPE.avi.
Because we gamers are hyprocrites. I don't have a problem with Origins ( YET ), because i'm a Console gamer. But i do expect this shit to come to consoles in the futur , and when that day comes, i will rest on my old gaming library ( about 200 console games , I'm prepared for the gaming apocalypse ) ). But most gamers just like to complain , but then they will still get the games EA produce because, well , they like the series. So even thought they voice against it , they won't deprive themselves of games they like out of principle.Drakulea said:You know...yuval152 said:
If people can stand up to a protester-torturing/shooting regime and succeed...
Why can't we succeed against the EA bunch of executive ****-less office gerbils that haven't seen the world outside of their tinted-glass windowed limos.
Better idea. We should all create a partition, install and run origin solely on that partition, and make everything about that partition about cats. That way EA gets the idea that their customers really love cats when the results come in. Then theyll invest heavily in making cat-related products, which will either finish them or stick them with making cat games for the rest of their days.
I am already boycotting EA, but for an entirely different reason. The past two games I have bought from EA have had their servers shutdown. Two games who have achievements that are only attainable online. Two games that revolve around multiplayer. These two games, Mercenaries 2 and LOTR: battle for Middle Earth 2 had their servers shutdown by EA. For whatever reason, you cannot even do splitscreen or private co-op matches. LOTR BME 2 is arguably one of the best rts on the consoles. Mercenaries 2 is not a great game, but it is still relatively new, only being three years old.
Summary: FUCK YOU, EA. If you are going to shut down servers to your games, DONT make half of the game's achievements online required.
Summary: FUCK YOU, EA. If you are going to shut down servers to your games, DONT make half of the game's achievements online required.
