Poll: So a man walks into a bar...

[Pebblig]

Too much guilt regardles, and it would coflict with my morals, so no.

 

[Gabanuka]

I've actually done similar things before with less money involved.

Also no. Even if I wanted the money I don't think I could kill someone.

 

[King of Asgaard]

who wouldn't want that?

People with consciences, who aren't psychopaths.

To each, their own, I guess.

 

[RedgraveStorm]

Well in this hypothetical situation, I am a supervillain. So I tell him to meet me in the back alley, kill him take the money, and than go kill the other dude for the lulz.

But in real life, hell no. I'd probably try to find a way to get the briefcase though.

 

[DANEgerous]

Slavers and tyrants must die! THEY MUST ALL DIE BY MY BLADE!

[HEADING=2]SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS[/HEADING]

DOWN WITH THE WITH THE BLOODY RED QUEEN, FOR THE PEOPLE FOR FREEDOOOOOOOOOOM!

*cough* Got a little carried away there, but ultimately do I get to decide who to kill? Cause Kony's starting to look very much like a practice target.

Put me in a room with him and I would kill the man. He is a slaver and a tyrant, as for who i would kill... tyrants. we established that yes? They are rather easily sorted from non-tyrants yes? I mean if we are just talking about levels of tyranny then is does become somewhat hard to define but I suppose the best way to out it is actions forced by threat of death.

You threaten another person to do what you say by force of death than you fucking die.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Im guessing 141 wanted to look cool on the internet. Id say more like 5 people max would do it in real life. The rest of you are trying to look cool and tbh its sickening. When did it become "cool" to not care about killing another human being. Its not cool. Its disgusting. Its sickening to the very core of my being that people think its "cool".

Im not disgusted by the claim. I dont think for a second the dark internet psyco types mean a single word of it. I seriously dont. What i do think is that the current "cool trend" is based on qualities that are contemptable and make you a terrible terrible human being.

No. No i couldnt look someone in the eyes and kill an innocent person. Not for any amount of money.

Some people are joking in the poll of course. Kudos to them. I just find the "dark misanthropic dude with no concience" trope possibly one of the uncoolest filthiest things ive ever seen.

Basically if you think its right to commit murder for money you dont follow societies rules. By that basis its perfectly acceptable and logical for someone to murder YOU or your immediate family for money and youd have no issue at all with it. You wouldnt complain or think its bad or anything. Otherwise youre a hypocrit.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

SNIP

This is a double post but id love to say Thank you for existing. Thank you :3

 

[laggyteabag]

"So a man walks into a bar" ouch!
Hehe, joke time over, no I wouldn't do it, $5million is not enough money for someone life.(Unless it was a serial killer/ rapist / [insert serious crime here], if so then hell yeah, id do it)

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

I would do it in a flat second, but then again I am not someone who tries to white knight to make myself look good!

Perhaps the people that dont want to do it just think murder is wrong?

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

I would do it in a flat second, but then again I am not someone who tries to white knight to make myself look good!

Perhaps the people that dont want to do it just think murder is wrong?

Its entirely possible, everyone has their own moral systems.

But any that contain the idea that murder is right must be ok with being murdered themselves. Or else the entire system is hypocritical.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

If I could mug him and give him 'cognitive re-calibration induced amnesia' (Hit him in the head until he forgets) I would do that. But probably wouldn't kill someone.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

I would do it in a flat second, but then again I am not someone who tries to white knight to make myself look good!

Perhaps the people that dont want to do it just think murder is wrong?

Its entirely possible, everyone has their own moral systems.

But any that contain the idea that murder is right must be ok with being murdered themselves. Or else the entire system is hypocritical.

Or they just dont consider a human life to have any more intrinsic value than that of a dog or cat or cow.

A Life is a Life after all, be it human or anything else.

Naturally thats how the system would work. However it still would work on the basis that im just as entitled to kill you as you are to kill me. If you believe it right to kill others then you must think it perfectly right for them to kill you or anyone you love and youd offer no protest.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Oh of course there is protest and struggle, every creature naturally considers it and its own above others, a bear will fight to defend its cubs, a fish will struggle on the line that is reeling it in.

No one said the person in the theoretical OT would just lie down and let you kill them.

Of course not. But the acceptance of murder for money as morally right asks its own questions.

Scenario. Someone breaks into your house with a knife to murder you for money. You fight, as you described, and win. However he survives. By your own logic you shouldnt report him to the police, and if caught you will argue in his defence. After all he shouldnt be punished because he didnt do anything "wrong". If he lives by chance and escapes to be later caught you wouldnt want him punished as by your own admission he is doing the right thing.

 

[Pyragma]

This is a "Black Button" case, look it up, its a moral choice issue proving that a vast majority or people will end someone else for something they want. Look up "Black Button" on like youtube.

 

[Andy of Comix Inc]

I would shoot him in the shin and take his five million dollars. If the police start asking questions, I'll tell him he attempted to blackmail me by threatening to kill me if I didn't commit a murder for him.

This is assuming he hands me the murder weapon, of course. Like he's all "USE THE GUN" and I'm all "OKAY" *shinshot* ...if he wanted me to do it of my own tenacity, Agent 47 style, then well I'm fresh out of ideas.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

First, for the record, I believe in utterly destroying something that is a threat to myself, If you leave the threat intact then it can become vengeful and seek retribution for the loss, safer to make sure that whatever threatens you can never become a threat again.

And to be fair, I am not a good person to ask, I have a hair trigger anger problem (That I have to make sure to keep very closely under control) and am a vengeful person, so while morally I would accept that he was doing what he could to advance himself in the world, I would still want to see him ruined because I am an angry and vengeful person ^.^

Then again, we live in a world of laws, so these theories are not (easily) able to be put to the test.

Youre right, in society it is hard to test such a thing. However it sounds like you would be more at home under atilla the hun than in mordern society. Surely you see laws improve the quality of life for everyone. A cut throat society is a society full of fear that functions really inefficiently. Quality of life would be much much lower.

 

[Galletea]

5 million dollars? Is that it? Nah, for more I'd consider it. But then he'd probably rat me out anyways.

 

[Relish in Chaos]

No, because there?d still be a chance of you getting caught if the man with the briefcase knows that you?ve killed someone and you have no reason to trust that he?ll keep his gob shut. Also, I don?t think I could bring myself to kill someone, even if it was a stranger. The guilt combined with the fear of capture would probably tear me apart.

If there was truly 0% of being captured in this highly unrealistic hypothetical situation without any consequences, especially long-term (like, the man with the briefcase kills himself afterwards for some reason), then yes, I?d do it. I?d put some cyanide or something in their drink, get the fuck out of there, and they?d later die in their sleep without me ever having to witness the death. If not that, a quick shot to the back of the head.

I?d still feel guilty, but I?d have five million dollars. Everyone are whores to money. When you look at the TV and hear a story about a convicted murder, I don?t jump to conclusions and think, ?Grr, what an evil guy, he should be castrated for what he did!? It could just as easily been anyone of us, and don?t think that anyone of you are automatically saints because all of us have thought about killing someone, whether or not they deserved it, and all of us have the capacity to do so. Especially if it?s someone that you don?t even know nor affects you in your day-to-day life. Plus, many of us, including myself, have a skewed moral code that we don?t necessarily stick to.

A much more pertinent question would be to ask people if they'd let the stranger spunk in their bum-hole for 5 million. That way people will be able to recognise whether or not they are whores.

I'd ask him to get a test first, and if he's clean, I'd agree to it. No-one but my arsehole would be harmed, and honestly, being penetrated in the anus can't be that bad.

Of course I?m a whore. We?re all fucking whores, and nothing I?ve seen or heard of on this planet has suggested otherwise.

Nope. Not even if there was a chance of not being caught. Why not? Because Karma is a major beeaaahhhch.

I wouldn't let such irrationally supernatural beliefs as karma restrict your freedom like that.

Years ago, I tried being a fucking saint, doing good things and generally being nice to people because I believed that the problems I was having was largely my own fault and I hoped that my life would be dragged out of butter. Fast-forward to the present day, and I'm still knee-deep in the same shit that I'd been experiencing since then.

Fuck karma, it doesn't exist. The theory of some kind of good-evil natural order balance bullshit is entirely ridiculous and idealistic.

Although, if he's got the briefcase now... that implies payment up front. I could agree, take the case, take out three million (and hide it), then go to the police and say that this guy offered me Two million to kill the person, and how. I get to be a hero for turning the guy in, and I have three million for my trouble.

Could he really be done for that, though? It's word against his, and the police would ask where the money is now, meaning that you might have to fess up.

Also, he could say that he'd only give you the money until after you killed the person. But that's even more risky, so as long as he gives me the money and kills himself after I've killed the person (or it's him that I have to kill), then I'd probably do it. Of course, this is in a highly unrealistic hypothetical situation where there?s absolutely 0% chance of capture without any long-term consequences.

 

[monkey_man]

welp, if it's a 0% detection rate, the only variable is the method. I'm not good with one on one brawling, but I suppose I could kill a man if I was allowed to poison his food, or shoot him with a gun. Perhaps stab him, but I could be overpowered.

but if the killing method was 100% (poison, guns etc.) I'd probably do it.

okay, perhaps not if he looks like this.

 

[Jedoro]

Nope. I have to know that my target is a threat to me or the less-guilty people in the world.