Poll: So... Diablo 3 or Torchlight 2?
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I'm going with the more sensible option of Torchlight 2. I pre-ordered it through Steam and got TL1, and I love it to bits.
But anyway TL is much cheaper, you can play it off line, you can play it through Steam, there is no real money auction house (pay to win system), aesthetically it's nicer to look at and the requirements will probably be a bit lower too.
Plus there won't be hoards of die hard Blizzard fans shouting down their mic at you for being shit or stupid.
But anyway TL is much cheaper, you can play it off line, you can play it through Steam, there is no real money auction house (pay to win system), aesthetically it's nicer to look at and the requirements will probably be a bit lower too.
Plus there won't be hoards of die hard Blizzard fans shouting down their mic at you for being shit or stupid.
Which isn't a problem for me, I'll be playing with friends - I need to play online anyway.CardinalPiggles said:
Which isn't a problem for me, I'll be playing with friends instead of stupid randoms.CardinalPiggles said:
Which isn't a problem for me, I'll be playing with friends instead of stupid randoms.CardinalPiggles said:
Yeah, I'll be playing both, but I'll start with Diablo 3 as it's released in two days - Torchlight 2 isn't.
.. "okay".CardinalPiggles said:
I bet you'll have just as much problems with people screaming at you if you play TL2 with randoms too.
If you're going to play all by yourself then you won't have a problem with them screaming in either game, and you won't have a problem with the RMAH if playing alone either. Which, by itself, isn't a problem as you're playing co-op, there's not stats and you get individual loot from enemies.
The only valid point you had was the offline part. I'm guessing you have a really shitty connection then. Because if you're on a plane or train you could just, I don't know, play something else. Or sleep. Or read a book. Or just about anything else than play D3 - it's not that hard.
OR you could just get both and stop choosing only one of them for a few bad reasons you probably won't notice anyway.
Besides, there's no release date for TL2, D3 is released in two days (well, 1 day and 2 hours for me).
I have Diablo 3 on order, I confess to some morbid curiousity about seeing how the AH system works... that and I'm a fan of the series and it's style/lore. To me it always struck me as a horror/fantasy hybrid, succeeding where things like "Ravenloft" arguably failed. Also Diablo 3 is using an art style that reminds me a LOT of the old PnP Planescape products which I liked a lot (do not confuse this with the Planescape video game, which was also excellent).
What I really want is another "Sacred" game, Sacred being like an open-world Diablo, but I don't know if the company that made that series even exists anymore, and I notice Sacred 2 isn't up on STEAM anymore (not to mention the expansion pack never making it to the US, allegedly because the company couldn't afford localization). I preferred the way they did the game/world than the linear dungeon crawl experience.
Torchlight 2 is something I'll probably try when it goes down in price.
What I really want is another "Sacred" game, Sacred being like an open-world Diablo, but I don't know if the company that made that series even exists anymore, and I notice Sacred 2 isn't up on STEAM anymore (not to mention the expansion pack never making it to the US, allegedly because the company couldn't afford localization). I preferred the way they did the game/world than the linear dungeon crawl experience.
Torchlight 2 is something I'll probably try when it goes down in price.
I was watching a preview video of Torchlight 2 earlier today, someone playing a beta version of the game, and one thing that absolutely stood out to me was the genuinely brilliant music. Like the first Torchlight they've got Matt Uelmen doing the soundtrack, same guy who did the soundtrack for Diablo 1 and 2, and it sounds so damned creepy and ambient. It sounds wonderful, the guys a genius when it comes to that sort of ambient background music!
By contrast what few examples of Diablo 3's soundtrack I've heard, while good, just didn't have that same vibe and style to them. Maybe it's just because Matt Uelmen is sort of synonymous with Blizzards earlier work (He also did the original Starcraft soundtrack) but the orcherstral scores for their recent games have just sort of seemed... off. Less memorable.
Maybe that's just me however. Whatever the case I'll definitely be buying Torchlight 2, no question. As for Diablo 3, I'm taking a cautious wait and see approach as I have a friend with similar tastes to myself who was in the beta and ended up disliking it.
By contrast what few examples of Diablo 3's soundtrack I've heard, while good, just didn't have that same vibe and style to them. Maybe it's just because Matt Uelmen is sort of synonymous with Blizzards earlier work (He also did the original Starcraft soundtrack) but the orcherstral scores for their recent games have just sort of seemed... off. Less memorable.
Maybe that's just me however. Whatever the case I'll definitely be buying Torchlight 2, no question. As for Diablo 3, I'm taking a cautious wait and see approach as I have a friend with similar tastes to myself who was in the beta and ended up disliking it.
I find it bizarre that some people complain about Diablo 3's aesthetics, as if they are a downgrade of Diablo 2's. As much as I loved that game, it simply doesn't compare to todays standards, just like nearly every other old game.
Diablo 3's atmosphere and environments look 10 times better than Diablo 2's. They're taking a lot more WoW approach, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Diablo 3's atmosphere and environments look 10 times better than Diablo 2's. They're taking a lot more WoW approach, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
A new Sacred game could be fun - IF they would actually make a game that works properly.Therumancer said:
Has to be one of the most buggy games ever made."Oops, we forgot a lot of animations. Don't worry, we'll add them in patch 1.5 which is like the 15th patch."
They don't exist anymore (except the UK studio which I know nothing about).
Le sigh.Elmoth said:
So what if it's made by a wholly different team? It's not like they can't reproduce the same feel of the original with different people.
...Diablo 2's music was orchestral as well. And I like Diablo 3's music.
What's over designed? They updated the Hydra, so what. It looks BETTER now. That's good.
Again, some of us like particle effects. And having too many people in a Diablo game would get crowded. 4 is a good number. 4 is easy to balance around.
It's a different team that doesn't get how Blizzard North designed Diablo and it's world.
How can you look at that hydra and think that's not ridiculously designed?
8 people in one D2 game wasn't crowded, and it had less obtrusive particle effects.
Baal was a big monster, he had a very monstrous design. In D3 one of those demons that transform from cultists have more monstrous features.
Blizzard North's artists were subtle, modern blizzard artists just wants to make things cool.
Modern Blizzard [http://pinoytutorial.com/techtorial/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/diablo_3_beta_game_1.jpg] vs Blizzard North [http://firsthour.net/screenshots/diablo-2/diablo-2-character-select-barbarian.jpg][/quote]
I think the Hydra looks good. For starters, I like that it has multiple heads. Like a Hydra. I also like that it looks like it's made out of fire. I like the fact that it has more defined spikes on it's body. What about it do you think looks "ridiculous"?
I never much cared for 8 player Diablo games. Balancing a game around more than about 4 or 5 people is very hard. Almost every game in existence is balanced around 3-5 players. I'd rather have a well made game with a 4 player cap than a poorly made game with an 8 player cap.
I'm confused by this. Are you saying you are upset that the lower demons look more demonic than Baal?
I don't really see your point in the screenshot comparison. What am I supposed to be seeing? one looks better and one looks old. For one thing, Diablo 2 was NOT subtle. You are comparing a level 35 Demon Hunter against a level 1 Diablo 2 character. High level Diablo 2 characters looked very outrageous, if not low resolution.
How can you look at that hydra and think that's not ridiculously designed?
8 people in one D2 game wasn't crowded, and it had less obtrusive particle effects.
Baal was a big monster, he had a very monstrous design. In D3 one of those demons that transform from cultists have more monstrous features.
Blizzard North's artists were subtle, modern blizzard artists just wants to make things cool.
Modern Blizzard [http://pinoytutorial.com/techtorial/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/diablo_3_beta_game_1.jpg] vs Blizzard North [http://firsthour.net/screenshots/diablo-2/diablo-2-character-select-barbarian.jpg][/quote]
I think the Hydra looks good. For starters, I like that it has multiple heads. Like a Hydra. I also like that it looks like it's made out of fire. I like the fact that it has more defined spikes on it's body. What about it do you think looks "ridiculous"?
I never much cared for 8 player Diablo games. Balancing a game around more than about 4 or 5 people is very hard. Almost every game in existence is balanced around 3-5 players. I'd rather have a well made game with a 4 player cap than a poorly made game with an 8 player cap.
I'm confused by this. Are you saying you are upset that the lower demons look more demonic than Baal?
I don't really see your point in the screenshot comparison. What am I supposed to be seeing? one looks better and one looks old. For one thing, Diablo 2 was NOT subtle. You are comparing a level 35 Demon Hunter against a level 1 Diablo 2 character. High level Diablo 2 characters looked very outrageous, if not low resolution.
Path of Exile for now, and Grim Dawn as well when it comes out =)
Seriously, I didn't even know about PoE until someone mentioned it recently, I looked on the website and thought it looked kinda bad, but they had a free strees test weekend thing so i tried it out....
and promptly sunk $15 in to support it and keep playing the closed beta for now.
Seriously, I didn't even know about PoE until someone mentioned it recently, I looked on the website and thought it looked kinda bad, but they had a free strees test weekend thing so i tried it out....
and promptly sunk $15 in to support it and keep playing the closed beta for now.
Torchlight 2 and Path of Exile for me.
While I would seriously love to play D3, I just can't do it, the online DRM, no single player and the RMAH, along with the £35 asking price is sort of a deal breaker for me. I'm sure it'll be an awesome game, just not one I'll be playing.
While I would seriously love to play D3, I just can't do it, the online DRM, no single player and the RMAH, along with the £35 asking price is sort of a deal breaker for me. I'm sure it'll be an awesome game, just not one I'll be playing.