IamSofaKingRaw said:
mangledmailman said:
Wow I left out a word but my original post still had the same meaning. The game came out after and it SHOULD BE and IS better than Trigger. I'm still waiting for you to post where I said all newer games are better than older ones.
Whether or not the characters are poorly developed in CC is purely your opinion so I don't see how telling me all of them are bland makes it all of a sudden fact.
I explained the combat system too you because you seem to pretend its the same as any other out there. I can name 10 RPG's that have an ATB bar and requires you to input an attack, use a skill etc. whereas I can't think of any game that has a combat system similar to Cross. Again, you are just trying to find a reason to hate the game.
Chrono Cross also has multiple endings, we are debating over games made by the same people so I don't see how you could use this as an argument when CC has the same if not more possible endings than CT.
Its amazing you discredit a metacritic score but then show me reviews from one site where CT is rated higher... Do you know what Metacritic is for?
All you have done in your posts is give me very vague reasons why CT is better. Telling me the game is better isn't going to convince me to change my mind. My reasoning is more specific. CC has more content, better music and better visuals. And also
mangledmailman said:
now youre just making yourself look like an idiot really.
That was necessary. Its my fault for thinking that I could debate with a fanboy.
maybe if you went back and read some of my posts on the first page you would see exactly what i said. i have not been vague, you have just failed to backtrack from before your short mindedness entered the topic.
the point of me linking to gamefaqs was to show you that you could find any site that compiles review scores to validate your point. at least gamefaqs takes users into account, where as metacritic is just reviewers. and two points on metacritic? really? thats nothing.
as for the ending you are completely wrong. chrono cross has 11 endings where as chrono trigger has 15. just pointing out a fact, as opposed to the garbage you are spewing.
and to deny that the characters are bland is just hilarious. there are 64 playable characters in chrono cross. to look at the list and say that more than 2 or 3 have actual emotion or real characteristics is a lie. nearly all are bland reprints of each other and do the same damn thing. there is absolutely no character development or change of character through he plot for anyone besides kid and serge. everyone else is just padding to make you feel that theres something more to the game than there actually is.
i could also name 10 other rpgs where you have a battle system like cross. all you do is input the commands per character and watch them play out in order. its all the same damn thing, no matter if you put it in when the characters turn pops up, or all at once. you have been horribly vague about your points, while discrediting mine saying they are vague.
and if you go back (something you are obviously still not capable of doing considering you still havent seen my original points on page 1) you would realize i have never said cross was a bad game, only that it was undoubtedly inferior to trigger.
so because you fail to backtrack and read my posts, ill fill it in for you since your too lazy to find it for yourself:
"chrono crosses character variety were akin to the variety of budget cheese at a supermarket. they may be different cheese, but theyre all cheese and most, if not all of them, taste the same. i would prefer the variety of trigger, where there actually is variety between fleshed out characters, where as crosses character were diluted sludge being pushed through a sewage pipe into our party until i couldnt help but wonder why any of them matter in the least.
the battles of cross were pretty innovative, but triggers were immensely better. the combination between characters moves in trigger worked better, as did the active time gameplay, and not having to load a battle screen every time an enemy decided to pop up.
if you want to say cross has character "customization" then you wouldnt be wrong. but that customization only goes as far to concern what different spells they use, and in that respect you can just make everyone do nearly the same damn thing. in trigger at least everyone was varied even if you couldnt give them a skill tree, or choose what they learned.
and the setting for cross was nice, but all 6 settings for trigger were better. cross had two worlds that were identical. trigger traveled through time. i wonder which has better and more diverse settings.
soundtrack is the one thing i can undoubtedly give to cross over trigger. you wont be hearing trigger music at video games live, but when they had the composer bring out the glass violin and play some cross music i nearly jizzed myself out of sheer amazement. but saying that the music is better as your first choice for saying the game is better is entirely unfounded."
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and im not trying to find any reason to hate the game. i played it and enjoyed it, actually more than other rpgs. but the fact is that it is undoubtedly inferior to trigger in nearly all aspects. maybe you should look in the mirror to find the fanboy.
