Actually, for me a grounding involves being banned from the computer, my iPod, the Internet, my music collection, the TV (whether it is mine or not), my consoles, and being allowed out. The only things I can do, are read, draw, and sleep. So don't make sweeping generalisations about parents and their techniques.Danish rage said:You are spot on.Exterminas said:Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.
A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.
Spanking is nothing more than violence and groundings today are a joke considering the internet, cable, console and all that other crap we as parent buy to our kids. Most kids today see it as a punishment to get kicked outside though. A cut in allowance or a financial compensation if the kid has a job is something they understand. Funny enough much like the real world money has the final word.
There are so many things wrong with fysical punsihment towards kids i don´t know where to begin.
Fortunally you go to jail for it where i live. And if i see you spank a kid, im gonna call social sevices on you´re ass soooooo fast.
Sry for gramma.
There are already topics about spanking vs other punishments, lets try to stay on topic.Danish rage said:You are spot on.Exterminas said:Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.
A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.
Spanking is nothing more than violence and groundings today are a joke considering the internet, cable, console and all that other crap we as parent buy to our kids. Most kids today see it as a punishment to get kicked outside though. A cut in allowance or a financial compensation if the kid has a job is something they understand. Funny enough much like the real world money has the final word.
There are so many things wrong with fysical punsihment towards kids i don´t know where to begin.
Fortunally you go to jail for it where i live. And if i see you spank a kid, im gonna call social sevices on you´re ass soooooo fast.
Sry for gramma.
yeah...I "as the middle child" got my ass whooped before I did anything wrong "then if i did something wrong" i would get beat and then punished....Xpwn3ntial said:Is it too much to do both? It was my experience that both were involved.
A year is a long time, what did you do? My example is above a few posts.believer258 said:Yes. I would rather be spanked than grounded. I got completely grounded for a year once. I would rather have had a spanking and gotten it over with. A few seconds of pain and then 5 minutes of numbness vs. 1 year of complete and utter boredom? What would you pick? I was never given the choice; for this reason, grounding was usually more effective after about 5th grade.
Parents need to beat their kids more often. My friend's little brother has friends that are complete little shits who obviously haven't ever been punished in their life...jonnosferatu said:I was spanked - very rarely grounded.
I had issues that may or may not have been related to this while I was a teenager, but now that I'm no longer living with my parents I'm pretty happy with the way they raised me.
In the event that you're being sarcastic, I feel the need to point out that there's a difference between beating and administering fair physical punishment.nofear220 said:Parents need to beat their kids more often. My friend's little brother has friends that are complete little shits who obviously haven't ever been punished in their life...jonnosferatu said:I was spanked - very rarely grounded.
I had issues that may or may not have been related to this while I was a teenager, but now that I'm no longer living with my parents I'm pretty happy with the way they raised me.
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Totally agree. I've had my ass handed to me by both my parents, and I thank them for it. God help me if I turned into one of those little shits I see around every day. (or the one descibed in that story for that matter.)believer258 said:I hope everyone that says spanking is abusive reads your post - you've given a good real world example, and all the people who are against spanking have, what? The word of a psychologist somewhere who has never had kids? It was effective on me and my brother, and it's been effective for thousands of years. Why should modern kids be any different?Lilani said:This whole topic seems odd to me, because my parents never grounded me. Spanking worked just fine, and I believe I am better off because of it.
So many parents shy away from corporal punishment these days it's sickening. My mom has worked at an elementary school for 14 years and she can almost instantly tell the kids who are spanked from the kids who are not.
For example, there was once a third grader who was brought in by his mother every day. And every day he would throw a fit and refuse to come into the building. His mother did nothing to help them get him in. So every day the rather muscular P.E. instructor would have to literally DRAG the kid into the building. The school counselor was always present to be witness so they could prove no abuse was occurring. He would only calm down when they finally got him to the classroom.
But every once in a while his dad would bring him in. As it turns out, the two were separated. And whenever his dad brought him in, he was perfectly happy and behaved just fine.
So one day my mom asks him about this. The dad explains that when he's with his mother, she lets the boy do whatever he wants. She tries to put him in time outs, but they do nothing and he just gets right up and goes back to what he's doing. But whenever he's with his dad, his dad makes him mind and spanks him when he refuses to listen.
I do believe there is a world of difference between punishment and abuse. However, I also believe that corporal punishment is a viable and effective option when all else fails.