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I admit it did get a giggle out of me when I heard it on ZP. But only because it made me remember a joke from many years ago.
Does a posh girl spit or swallow?
Neither, she gargles.
(If you don't get it then i'm not explaining it ... ask your parents).
All I see when someone else uses said term is "hi, I want to convey disdain of this genre and/or sound a little bit *edgy* and witty but i'm nowhere near clever enough to come up with my own term so i'm using someone else's .... please like me".
Does a posh girl spit or swallow?
Neither, she gargles.
(If you don't get it then i'm not explaining it ... ask your parents).
All I see when someone else uses said term is "hi, I want to convey disdain of this genre and/or sound a little bit *edgy* and witty but i'm nowhere near clever enough to come up with my own term so i'm using someone else's .... please like me".
It's a silly, childish term, and I won't be using it any time soon. That said, I don't necessarily disagree with it's use, nor do I think less of those who use it, and while I'm not keen on the word itself, there definitely needs to be a work for this subgenre.
SGWW is a nice sub-type for the FPS genre, lets one easily distinguish between other FPS games and Brown Military Shooters.
Plus I've started qualify other cinematic heavy corridor-based set-piece carnival rides as SGWW, such as Max Payne 3 and the new Hitman.
Plus I've started qualify other cinematic heavy corridor-based set-piece carnival rides as SGWW, such as Max Payne 3 and the new Hitman.
I think it's a good word that accurately sums up the genre it's meant to. It's not showing disdain, but an immature and borderline offensive term used specifically to describe an immature and offensive genre, (or rather, an immature and offensive game, since everything that falls under that definition is basically a photocopy of COD with little new or relevant added).
Seriously, describe a few game genres to a non-gamer. Shooters, platformers, racers... spunkgargleweewee. Action games where you play a character with a gun, games based around jumping and physical challenges, games based around racing and being fastest... and games based around joining a fictionalised representation of possibly the biggest army in the world and fighting far weaker enemies designed to resemble real people but actually a patchwork of racist stereotypes designed to reflect the xenophobia and fears of a certain corner of society (who still often come off a sympathetic simply due to being far less well equipped than you and need to be characterised almost as cartoon villains to work as antagonists at all) and committing mass murder upon them on a regular basis with the best equipment in the world, usually completely unironically to a rock soundtrack and an undercurrent of "we're awesome" all designed specifically to appeal to people's power fantasies.
So yeah, I think classifying it as a sub-genre with a hugely immature title is entirely appropriate.
Seriously, describe a few game genres to a non-gamer. Shooters, platformers, racers... spunkgargleweewee. Action games where you play a character with a gun, games based around jumping and physical challenges, games based around racing and being fastest... and games based around joining a fictionalised representation of possibly the biggest army in the world and fighting far weaker enemies designed to resemble real people but actually a patchwork of racist stereotypes designed to reflect the xenophobia and fears of a certain corner of society (who still often come off a sympathetic simply due to being far less well equipped than you and need to be characterised almost as cartoon villains to work as antagonists at all) and committing mass murder upon them on a regular basis with the best equipment in the world, usually completely unironically to a rock soundtrack and an undercurrent of "we're awesome" all designed specifically to appeal to people's power fantasies.
So yeah, I think classifying it as a sub-genre with a hugely immature title is entirely appropriate.
Sounds perfectly reasonable. I like SGWW as a joke term and as a joke term I think it could be broadened to encompass other games from other genres. For example, I would call Final Fantasy XIII, 2 and, 3 the SGWW of JRPGs (then I would watch people spread that little wild-fire on to things like Enchanted Arms etc).shrekfan246 said:
The point was made, it was entertaining, move along. If only that genre of game would also leave and allow a modicum of creativity and innovation back into a stale and boring industry, along with the term. But if Activision know how to do anything, it's how to flog horses, living and dead. Kind of like Tesco.
at some point during the early 90s when russias military got cut down a bit. they did no longer need an army that could plow through europe like a lawnmower on crack, now they just needed one juuuust big enough so attacking russia wasn't worth it.GunsmithKitten said:
today, the u.s. has accumulated:
- twice the number of manpower reserves
- four times the strenght of aircraft
- about five times the helicopter strenght
- about 5-2 times the mbt strenght, according to who you ask
- and ten times the strenght in aircraft carriers
so yeah, all those scenarios where russia attacks america are a rather unrealistic jingoist gunwank revenge fantasy.
It should definitely be kept because it is perfect for describing those types of games. They are the jersey shore of the gaming world and need to identified as such.
I wouldn't advocate for its usage (don't care enough,) but my only problem with the word... it is cumbersome to type. I don't use it in conversation, but that's just because I only know a few people who might get the reference. I suspect it won't catch on anyway. It won't last, but then again neither will the genre. Tastes change and develop, games and styles come and go. Whether you call them MMS's or SGWW or Brownshooter or just shooter... they evolved from the Nazi blasting squad shooter that is considered kind of retro these days. A decade from now a CoD clone will be considered "a quaint throwback" and die hard fans of the MMS will come up with their own derisive name for whatever is popular and AAA at the moment and complain about how games were better back in the 00's.
Using the term is simply an expression of spite. Yes, it is crude. Yes, it is childish, but is anyone actually surprised people are angry that a genre has changed in a way that effectively killed off the quake style fps? If both styles of shooters where still being made I doubt there would be much complaint, but simply put your buying one of these newer style fps games causes publishers to pass on making new shooters in the style I and many others loved.
For better or worse many fps fans are in two camps that really just don't like each other. The one who's style of game they like is no longer made will simply keep taking pot shots. If you don't like this its probably best to ignore it taking pot shots back is a hell of a lot more likely to start a flame war then change anyone's behavior to be less hostile.
For better or worse many fps fans are in two camps that really just don't like each other. The one who's style of game they like is no longer made will simply keep taking pot shots. If you don't like this its probably best to ignore it taking pot shots back is a hell of a lot more likely to start a flame war then change anyone's behavior to be less hostile.
Whilst a lot of Yahtzee's jokes and use of idioms do make me laugh, this term never did it for me. It's obviously a personal term only applied once or twice to generate a little immature humor. Anyone else taking the term and applying it to something themselves, rather than just merely referring to the episodes it was used in, is an uncreative idiot.
Stop that, you'll go blind...tippy2k2 said:Oh I had a giant soap box I jumped onto when people started to use this term and they WEREN'T using it ironically (like PC Master Race).
Where oh where did I leave that...
Ah ah! Here is it (in a thread about "broadening" the term because the OP evidently thought that a stupid joke needed to be broadened):
I love quoting myself. It's like forum masturbationtippy2k2 said:
But I believe I agreed with you in that thread also, so I agree with you in this thread too.
It (not even giving it the benefit of being typed) was a one time thing that Yahtzee may use every now and again. Its nothing more, and the massive use of the phrase by people is really fucking annoying... almost as much as the fact that whenever something happens (ME3, Feminists vs tropes, gun bans), the Escapist latch to it until the next big thing comes around.
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I cracked up at this, no I gotta use it in conversations...Kathinka said: