Meh :x I love lolita @.@ So wearing multiple layers regardless of the heat (Damn you Sydney >.<) isn't so bad ^_^LBringer said:
Poll: Steampunk or cyberpunk?
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Cyberpunk actually lives up to it's punk half and is a more established (sub)genre regardless whilst you can liste 'Steampunk' works on a single hand.
On a more personal note, I prefer the high-tech, low-life, cybered up future more than I do a super-extrapolated version of the industrial revolution.
Plus, I dunno. Steampunk usually seems to just be an art style more than anything. All like "I slapped some cogs and shit on something. It's STEAMPUNK!"
...I suppose that might be the way that Steampunk expresses it's punk side - just style that is entirely useless, like kill-counter tattoos and mohawks in Cyberpunk.
It is the dark future, a high-tech but low-life existence. Where folks go out at night strapped and with a pair of retractable claws hidden in their cyberlimb. Where armor-grade bulletproof clothing is the norm.
It's a genre that calls for a rise against, for a fight, and asks philosophical questions like what makes us really human. How much of your body can you tear away and replace with cold, hard steel before crossing that line? Is there even a line to be crossed? Etc.
Some games set in this genre are the entire Deus Ex series, Syndicate, Global Agenda, aaaand a bunch more I'm probably totally forgetting.
On a more personal note, I prefer the high-tech, low-life, cybered up future more than I do a super-extrapolated version of the industrial revolution.
Plus, I dunno. Steampunk usually seems to just be an art style more than anything. All like "I slapped some cogs and shit on something. It's STEAMPUNK!"
...I suppose that might be the way that Steampunk expresses it's punk side - just style that is entirely useless, like kill-counter tattoos and mohawks in Cyberpunk.
It's a very specific sub-genre of sci-fi dealing with the near future, where cybernetic (and other forms of augmentation) have been taking off like crazy and oppressive regimes (be they governmental or corporate) are in control.Wakikifudge said:
It is the dark future, a high-tech but low-life existence. Where folks go out at night strapped and with a pair of retractable claws hidden in their cyberlimb. Where armor-grade bulletproof clothing is the norm.
It's a genre that calls for a rise against, for a fight, and asks philosophical questions like what makes us really human. How much of your body can you tear away and replace with cold, hard steel before crossing that line? Is there even a line to be crossed? Etc.
Some games set in this genre are the entire Deus Ex series, Syndicate, Global Agenda, aaaand a bunch more I'm probably totally forgetting.
man both are epic, but i think steampunk has to win just cause i like the styles a little bit better. but cyberpunk is still sweet, see Tokyo in time splitters 2.
I love steampunk, possibly because I've always liked the mechanic archetype, and steampunk is lousy with them. Also, I tend to like the fashion more, as diva as that sounds.
Bioshock isn't very steampunk, there really isn't anything that defines what is Steampunk TBH.
Why isn't Bioshock steampunk? Based off of the 1940s-50s, not Victorian. Most stuff is run via electricity and has nothing to do with Steam technology...
Actually there is NO Steam technology at all in Bioshock.
How can you possibly called it STEAM-punk? You guys have no idea what Steampunk is. Just because characters where old clothes (not Victorian) and some of the stuff looks like copper?
Why isn't Bioshock steampunk? Based off of the 1940s-50s, not Victorian. Most stuff is run via electricity and has nothing to do with Steam technology...
Actually there is NO Steam technology at all in Bioshock.
How can you possibly called it STEAM-punk? You guys have no idea what Steampunk is. Just because characters where old clothes (not Victorian) and some of the stuff looks like copper?
People seem to be judging this purely on an aesthetic level, removing the -punk part of the equation, which is a shame, as this could have spawned some interesting conversation.
I suppose that depends on the premiss: Are we considering these -punks to be full-fledged genres, thus free of certain restrictions, or are they sub-genres of sf&f?Arachon said:
