Poll: Successful New IPs That Aren't Shooters

[w9496]

There aren't too many shooters. Developers realize that there is a demand for shooter games, and therefore supply shooter games. If RTS games were all of a sudden in very high demand like shooters are, you bet your ass there would be more RTS games.

 

[Tipsy Giant]

There aren't too many shooters, there aren't enough other games

 

[GoaThief]

Also, what 39 games does imahobbit own? That sounds like a hell of a lot of games in the first place

You do realise there are a lot of us around here with well over a hundred games in our collections?

39 games is pretty low.

You do realise you attributed that quote to the wrong person?

Just glanced at raptr, I have 360 games listed and that's only my main Steam account and Xbox GT.

 

[TheCommanders]

Alan wake is another good one.

This guy?
-picture sniped for length-
I'm pretty sure he's shooting.


OT - Not really. There are as many as the market can support. If you look in the right places there are plenty of non shooter games.
There are probably more non shooters on PC due to the comparatively limited controls on consoles for things like RTS games.
Also, a lot of RPGs tend to be long running series because the world is what tends to draw the player in, rather than characters. Players always like to return to a setting they love.
Creating a new IP for RPGs is that bit harder I would imagine.

There is a fundamental difference between a shooter and a game with shooting in it. Not defending Alan Wake, but preempting a misconception I have seen a lot in threads like this. Also, some RPGs draw in people for the world (Elder Scrolls Games, Fallout Games), and some for the characters and story (Dragon Age, Mass Effect).

 

[Sean Hollyman]

Metal Gear Solid 4, Skyrim, Pokemon, Prototype, infamous, mario..

 

[deathzero021]

i do think there are a bit too many Shooters coming from big publishers but the indie scene has tons more to offer. you'll just have to look away from the $60 games and check out some Xbox Live / Steam / PC indie games =P

also one thing i'd like to add, not only are there too many shooters but too many combat/murder games. I would put Skyrim, God of War, and Assassin's Creed in the same category, all you do is savagely kill all day. it's getting kinda gross especially with the increasing graphics. there's just too many of these bloody games in the main stream, which is why i don't buy many games on consoles like 360/ps3.

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

Really, lots.

Bayonetta
Bastion
Kingdom's of Amalur
Saint's Row
Mirror's Edge ( More of a Platformer)
Vanquish ( Third Person!)
Anarchy Reign
Catherine
Alan Wake
Super Meat Boy
Castle Crashers
Alice:Madness Returns
R.U.S.E
Amnesia
Braid
The Witcher Series
Cthulu Saves the World
Breath of Death 7
Cave Story
Brutal Legend
Kameo
Costume Quest
Stacking
Portal ( Its more of a Puzzle game)
Terraria
Darksiders


Plus, that doesn't include the loads of storied franchises that don't include FPS

 

[DustyDrB]

This isn't a real problem. No, really. Instead of what you asked us to do, name some FPS games that were introduced this generation and were successful. That's actually much harder to do.

I play Team Fortress 2. And that's the only FPS game I play. I've not been lacking in games to play for many years, and actually have accumulated a massive backlog that will probably take me the rest of the year to finish (if I don't buy any more games).

It really seems to me like most new FPS IPs struggle. There's a Borderlands and a Crysis, and then...?

 

[DustyDrB]

Shogun 2

What? Total War has been around for AGES dude.

Yeah...you think that would be obvious to someone who bothers to list the second game in a certain spin-off (not really the right term) series of a franchise.

 

[Amaror]

Ok, i don't play much shooters, so i think it's sad that there is so much focus on it. Then again i still got plenty of games left to play from steam sales and the indie market is just a goldmine for good games, so i don't have a real problem with it.

Considering youre Question:

Born - Ips in this generation:

Terraria, Bastion, Endless Space, Risen, King Arthur, Mount and Blade (Don't really know if it was this generation, i don't play on consoles), Batman Arkham games, The Binding of Isaac, Hard Reset, Orcs must die, The Walking dead, Vessel, Warlock, Trine, Limbo

Now then again most of those are not gonna get sequels, but there are other non shooters who are quite sucessful, Total War, or Elder Scrolls for example.

 

[Rawne1980]

You do realise you attributed that quote to the wrong person?

Just glanced at raptr, I have 360 games listed and that's only my main Steam account and Xbox GT.

I do now.

I apologise for that.

 

[neonsword13-ops]

This generation has been goin on awhile... so I'll just showcase the newest ones I've played recently: Gravity Rush.

Spoiler

Thanks for posting that, Thal. I was going to be disappointed if I came in here without anyone saying Gravity Rush.

Anyway, this. Bought it yesterday, already love it.

Also, dat soundtrack...

 

[Starke]

You've asked the question "are there too many shooters being released?" and, in my mind at least, the answer is obvious: developers and publishers wouldn't continue to churn out shooters if people weren't buying them.

People are buying them - lots of them. If you listen to the market, it's telling you very clearly that "no, there aren't too many shooters being released - in fact, we'd like some more now if that's OK with you"

Which is of course why games like Homefront, Bulletstorm, Duke Nukem Forever, and Medal of Honor sold so well...

Thing is, if one shooter is selling, publishers will make nine more to try to steal it's thunder and most likely fail.

If you want to look at a reasonable shooter market, look at Activision exclusively for a moment. They have COD, but beyond that they have an honestly somewhat limited shooter release compared to EA who keeps churning out as many of the things as possible with the target goal of unseating CoD. They're taking a shotgun approach to the market, and in the long run that's not going to be healthy for it. At present they have two separate franchises both aiming to do the same thing, topple Modern Warfare, without doing anything unique on their own.

 

[Starke]

Mount and Blade (Don't really know if it was this generation, i don't play on consoles)

In spite of actually looking like Morrowind times (engine wise), it was solidly in this generation. The current Console generation is shaping up to be 2005 - ~2013.

 

[katana-409]

I'm guessing Diablo 3? Although the series itself is pretty old

 

[chimeracreator]

For new (meaning not part of a series that existed before this generation so series start date of no earlier than 2005) non-shooter AAA IP in this generation (based on my Steam library):

Assassins Creed
Champions Online (MMO)
Dragon Age
L.A. Noire
Overlord
Tera (MMO)
The Witcher

Given that based on the definition of new IP games like Call of Duty don't even qualify to be compared to these because they predate this generation. Series like Gears of War qualify but seeing as how Max Payne doesn't even qualify as new IP it seems to me that there are more new AAA non-shooter series being started than there are AAA shooter series.

The fact that my Steam library includes over 180 games with fewer than 10 shooters make me think that it isn't that life isn't that bad.

 

[wintercoat]

This generation has been goin on awhile... so I'll just showcase the newest ones I've played recently: Gravity Rush.

Spoiler

It is a shame that such a beautiful game is stuck on the Vita's tiny screen. That there's a game that deserves to be drunk in from a large screen. I really wish more games would use this visual style. Because it is just amazing, the type of thing that will still look amazing well down the line.

OT: There are a lot more shooters than there were last generation. Some have been good some have been bad, but I wouldn't say there have been too many.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Examples of games that aren't shooters, you ask OP?

inFamous
Elder Srolls
Darksiders
God of War
Dragon Age
Saint's Row
Journey
Bit.Trip.Beat
Prototype
Enslaved
Xenoblade
Portal (by means of you don't actually shoot enemies)
Terraria
Torchlight
Diablo
Dark Souls
Skyward Sword
Twilight Princess
Super Mario Galaxy
New Super Mario Bros
MINECRAFT!

Do you need more, or are you happy that there's not just shooters in our market?

 

[wintercoat]

This generation has been goin on awhile... so I'll just showcase the newest ones I've played recently: Gravity Rush.

Spoiler

It is a shame that such a beautiful game is stuck on the Vita's tiny screen. That there's a game that deserves to be drunk in from a large screen. I really wish more games would use this visual style. Because it is just amazing, the type of thing that will still look amazing well down the line.

OT: There are a lot more shooters than there were last generation. Some have been good some have been bad, but I wouldn't say there have been too many.

It's a shame that people with Simpson avatars will wax poetic about things they don't have...

The screen is much larger than any other handheld system, but your kiddy tablets have shit operating systems that can't compete with real game systems... but since you don't own it, you want to talk down at it.

That's a spoiled American type prejudice dood.

Did you ever learn about cables? You know, those things that can connect things to each other? Savvy? Eh?

It's sad, just like hearing about a PC gamer that can't use his HD tv, but has to use his over priced 'monitor'.

lol

monitors

Wow, you got a lot of anger just bubbling at the top, don't ya? Just jump down a guys throat for anything. In the future, I'll refrain from commenting on the size of a portable console's screen, as apparently, that's a touchy subject for some people.

 

[Blunderboy]

Alan wake is another good one.

This guy?
-picture sniped for length-
I'm pretty sure he's shooting.


OT - Not really. There are as many as the market can support. If you look in the right places there are plenty of non shooter games.
There are probably more non shooters on PC due to the comparatively limited controls on consoles for things like RTS games.
Also, a lot of RPGs tend to be long running series because the world is what tends to draw the player in, rather than characters. Players always like to return to a setting they love.
Creating a new IP for RPGs is that bit harder I would imagine.

There is a fundamental difference between a shooter and a game with shooting in it. Not defending Alan Wake, but preempting a misconception I have seen a lot in threads like this. Also, some RPGs draw in people for the world (Elder Scrolls Games, Fallout Games), and some for the characters and story (Dragon Age, Mass Effect).

Yeah I know. I was just teasing.
I know that not all RPG's are the same and that people come to different series' for different reasons. Having said that I do love the settings of both Mass Effect and Dragon Age, so they still play a huge part. And if you already have an established world, then it's much easier to use that than to start a new IP. Hence the sequels.