Poll: Tales of League verbal abuse.

[The Wykydtron]

I play Alistar, Nami and Leona support. Blitz when I feel like being a massive twat.

Only those? Actually most supports are good fun (except for Soraka, she really is terrible).


Janna is mostly good when you wanna play the babysitter babysitting the retarded kid. Just push all dem mean people away from your sweet little unsuspecting carry, and make them right-click their way to glory! I recommend this when you're playing with your crush and they're way worse than you.

Ha, implying I even know any girls, you funny guy you.

I still can't get over all the Morg, Ori,Zyra/Whatever supports. They just feel wrong in the support role because well, back in my day, the AP Mid would actually GO MID. Not this "ehh AP support" faggotry I see here. Morg might be ok, but if I see ONE more support Lux...

Alistar is just hilarious. Like a Lee Sin ult on a 10 second cooldown. GET BACK SON!

Leona is just too manly for me to not play. She has one mode only and it's Maximum Ham :3

 

[The Wykydtron]

Ha, implying I even know any girls, you funny guy you.

I still can't get over all the Morg, Ori,Zyra/Whatever supports. They just feel wrong in the support role because well, back in my day, the AP Mid would actually GO MID. Not this "ehh AP support" faggotry I see here. Morg might be ok, but if I see ONE more support Lux...

Alistar is just hilarious. Like a Lee Sin ult on a 10 second cooldown. GET BACK SON!

Leona is just too manly for me to not play. She has one mode only and it's Maximum Ham :3

Zyra is actually a very good support, her instaroot (skillshot? fuck you, not even I can miss that thing) and ultimate are great peeling tools, and never underestimate the power of an ability that facechecks for you. Lux is pretty much a root, and Morg and Ori are pretty bad. Nida is fucking atrocious.

Hey one of my duo partners swears by support Nid. I don't have the heart to tell him it's not good. What's it called? Peeling for your carry? Yeah. Sure. She'll have none of that, gank incoming? SEE YA LATER FUCKERS! *cats out, carry dies*

I don't think he understands "support" doesn't mean the one guy who helps harass then fucks off at the first sign of danger. Trying to get him to play Leona instead but I just let him go Carry when I have the misfortune to go bot with him because I can actually play bloody support.

I outright walk up to any ganks just to have a wall between my carry and them. ESPECIALLY Alistar. Lee Sin incoming? "Dave get behind me, i'm gonna take his Q for you"

Just as an add-on, if anyone else says "Leona don't go in just harass" to me again i'm going to scream. Tell me, of which of my abilities do I "harass" with? Autoattack stun? Short range explosion God Mode? Teleport Sword? Massive stun explosion?

I understand why support Lux should be good... Just that nobody can play it well ever. Every single time, is this going to be the first good Lux support I see?

FIRST BLOOD

Nope.

 

[Smeatza]

One of our teammates was handing out the most venomous abuse you can imagine to both our team and the opposite team, without any justification whatsoever.
One of our team asked him relatively nicely to "shut up."
He responded to this by going AFK.

15 minutes later he returned to the game with the sentence "Hows winning going you fucking faggots?"

I laughed for a good half hour.

 

[bearlotz]

I must complain about junglers taking blue from the mid though. In some situations it's fine, especially if you are playing a mana hungry jungler who can use it but please give it to your mid if they are playing a blue reliant champion.

It really hurts to not get blue if im playing Anivia or Swain, if you give blue to AP kog then he instantly controls and dominates his lane until it wears off. I actually groan out loud to not get given blue in one game as Anivia but then get offered it the next game when im playing someone like veigar.

**Disclaimer: the following applies to the laning phase and a bit into the midgame**

I main support but jungle on the side, and I really take issue with this attitude. When I agree to be the jungler and set Smite as one of your summoner spells, the entire jungle belongs to me. If I feel someone else could make better use of its resources (mana-hungry mids, giving ADC red around midgame, laners taking camps that would respawn by the time I get there) then I will give them to you. That's at my discretion though: junglers don't have creep waves delivering us a constant supply of gold and EXP, and the enemy laner can't outright deny your minions (not even a good comparison, getting counter-jungled would be if the enemy actually got extra gold for denying you minion kills) and it is a huge setback for us to lose the buff camp gold and EXP.

What does all that mean? Well, if the mid laner wants a blue buff they need to demonstrate to me that they would make better use of it than I would while not meeting any disqualifying conditions. For example, a mid laner who doesn't leash during my first clear? Not even remotely happening. Mid laner who doesn't ward? Fuggedaboudit. Mid laner who feeds 4+ kills before the second blue spawns? Lol, no way in hell. On the other hand if you're CS'ing like a beast, getting kills, warding intelligently, or just going pretty much even with the enemy then I'll serve that golem up to you on a platter.

As for taking mana-hungry mid champs...dude, that's not the jungler's fault nor is it their problem. If you just ask me about getting the second blue buff in the pre-game chat before you lock in, then I'll probably agree that you would make great use of it and ping you a reminder when it's about to spawn. But if you just lock in such a champ without consulting anyone (or pick that champ into the wrong team comp just because you wanted to play it) and then expect blue buffs as your birthright? Sorry dude, if I would rather not give that buff up at the time then I'm going to Smite-steal it from you.

Functionally I'm saying that there are loads of strong arguments for a jungler giving the second blue buff to the mid laner, but that the mid laner should A) not just take that as a given, and
B) communicate with the jungler about buff distribution.
We might agree completely and everyone gets what they want, we might disagree and one person or both people walk away unsatisfied, but in either case at least you made an effort to play with your team instead of just expecting to be the star and have 4 groupies playing with your team colors by default.

/rant

 

[thesilentman]

Mostly a Dota 2 player here, so I can't speak for League, but people sure do flame me for playing micro heroes quite a bit. It's satisfying in a sense to see someone recognize that playing those heroes take skill, but the other half think that just because I play a micro hero, it's good game for the enemy and they expect me to be some sort of pro.

Case in point, I had a recent game with Meepo where I died four times in the beginning and got shut down like mad (half out of stupidity, I shouldn't have chased a fight), but after a few minutes of some flash farming, I step out of the jungle, slaughter half their team in front of their mid tower, take Roshan solo, get interrupted by the enemy, and destroy 4 of their team that time. Lucky Enchantress was lucky.

People flamed me for kill stealing. Well, the other team flamed because they lost (don't ask, I dunno why) and 2 of our team having no idea what Meepo does. For all of you League players, I'll explain. Basically, he's got a passive ulti that makes 3 clones of himself (4 with an item that boosts ulti) which all individually gain experience. The catch? One dies, they all die. However, it's quite possible to flash farm your way to victory with him, as the goal is to race the enemy's carry to max level. It's fun playing with lower skill bracket. -.-

 

[KOMega]

I dunno, I find soraka to be okay. Terrible if people only play her for the heal.

For support I generally enjoy playing Sona more. Q is a fantastic poke and the heal is passable.
Sona is just great for poking fun. No really, I mean fun for poking at the enemy with your Q and passive, and your R once in a while.

Anyways I have been playing ARAM so much now. I think I'm starting to lose touch of Rift, forgetting where to properly ward and forgetting not to blindly facecheck bushes. But those are things I can fix, since I still sorta remember how. -ish.

That being said, A few games on Rift, and I noticed my reaction time and ability use judgment is a lot better now since before ARAM became a normal type game.

 

[Candidus]

League's community is just dreadful. Legitimately worse than Dota2's in every way. I'm back into LoL now, about equally with Dota after a long hiatus. I've been scratching the rust off my Lulu/Nami/Taric/Sona, and the abuse- be it in normals or ranked- is just incessant in League. Either you're winning, or there's something horrible going on in team chat, that's just how it is.

If something goes wrong in lane, and if it can be blamed in someone, it's 50/50 whether anything will even be said in Dota. Probably even better than that, probably about 40/60 favouring no comment. In league, if something goes wrong, if you misplay, if you misclick, if you ping caution four times instead of the minimum five plus all caps verbal warning, a storm of shit is going to follow 90% of the time.

Example:

I'm Nami and he's Vayne. We get pushed to the turret and I know I have to prep ranged** minions. However, he attacks the first after the tower shot, before I've prepped, and I take the last hit.

"DON'T FUCKIDIOT."

So I'm typing under the tower- because I'm not prepping his minions after that- and the moron goes HAM on Trist Leona, rolling face first into a stun and getting auto'd for more than 60%. I fudge as I switch from typing to playing and throw my bubble late.

"this nami steals last hits no help ever bot is over gg"
"fuck you"
"can i afk?"

I've never seen the like in Dota2. I've seen supports auto-attacking creeps and I've seen various responses, some magnanimous and some furious, but I've never seen someone go from cold to total meltdown in under 30 seconds.

I mute everyone in LoL at the start of every game now. It's just easier that way.

 

[Dandark]

I must complain about junglers taking blue from the mid though. In some situations it's fine, especially if you are playing a mana hungry jungler who can use it but please give it to your mid if they are playing a blue reliant champion.

It really hurts to not get blue if im playing Anivia or Swain, if you give blue to AP kog then he instantly controls and dominates his lane until it wears off. I actually groan out loud to not get given blue in one game as Anivia but then get offered it the next game when im playing someone like veigar.

**Disclaimer: the following applies to the laning phase and a bit into the midgame**

I main support but jungle on the side, and I really take issue with this attitude. When I agree to be the jungler and set Smite as one of your summoner spells, the entire jungle belongs to me. If I feel someone else could make better use of its resources (mana-hungry mids, giving ADC red around midgame, laners taking camps that would respawn by the time I get there) then I will give them to you. That's at my discretion though: junglers don't have creep waves delivering us a constant supply of gold and EXP, and the enemy laner can't outright deny your minions (not even a good comparison, getting counter-jungled would be if the enemy actually got extra gold for denying you minion kills) and it is a huge setback for us to lose the buff camp gold and EXP.

What does all that mean? Well, if the mid laner wants a blue buff they need to demonstrate to me that they would make better use of it than I would while not meeting any disqualifying conditions. For example, a mid laner who doesn't leash during my first clear? Not even remotely happening. Mid laner who doesn't ward? Fuggedaboudit. Mid laner who feeds 4+ kills before the second blue spawns? Lol, no way in hell. On the other hand if you're CS'ing like a beast, getting kills, warding intelligently, or just going pretty much even with the enemy then I'll serve that golem up to you on a platter.

As for taking mana-hungry mid champs...dude, that's not the jungler's fault nor is it their problem. If you just ask me about getting the second blue buff in the pre-game chat before you lock in, then I'll probably agree that you would make great use of it and ping you a reminder when it's about to spawn. But if you just lock in such a champ without consulting anyone (or pick that champ into the wrong team comp just because you wanted to play it) and then expect blue buffs as your birthright? Sorry dude, if I would rather not give that buff up at the time then I'm going to Smite-steal it from you.

Functionally I'm saying that there are loads of strong arguments for a jungler giving the second blue buff to the mid laner, but that the mid laner should A) not just take that as a given, and
B) communicate with the jungler about buff distribution.
We might agree completely and everyone gets what they want, we might disagree and one person or both people walk away unsatisfied, but in either case at least you made an effort to play with your team instead of just expecting to be the star and have 4 groupies playing with your team colors by default.

/rant

I often jungle every now and then too and I agree with what your saying. The entire jungle belongs to you and if you don't want to give the mid lane blue then that's fine, it's your choice. I don't expect to get blue every game and believe that you can't play mid if you can't play it without blue.

All I ask is that other junglers do what I do and look at their mid. If they are feeding or playing stupidly then yeah, you probably don't want to give them blue as the enemy will just kill them and take it. If the jungler gets blue then aside from the huge XP boost they get it also lets them gank more which can be much more useful to the team sometimes.
However just look at your mid and think how they would do if they got blue.
If Anivia has just been in lane farming then that blue will let her get every CS while she has it, it will let her constantly deny and harass the enemy with her now infinite mana.
That Swain will now never be pushed out of lane until it's gone and that Kog will force the enemy out in under 2 mins.

I think that the jungler should always get the first blue, the second too if they are a mana hungry jungler. Beyond that though it can be a great idea to give it to the mid, you don't have to and the mid doesn't have any right to demand it but it can sometimes be what's best for the team just like how you would give red to the ADC once the laning phase ends and teamfight phase begins.

 

[cdemares]

As a jungle player (for LoL, Dota, and HoN [Yeah, I play all three. Problem? =P]) I think everyone can benefit from watching that video.

I main Fiora and I laughed so hard. I also learned a few things.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Hey one of my duo partners swears by support Nid. I don't have the heart to tell him it's not good. What's it called? Peeling for your carry? Yeah. Sure. She'll have none of that, gank incoming? SEE YA LATER FUCKERS! *cats out, carry dies*

I don't think he understands "support" doesn't mean the one guy who helps harass then fucks off at the first sign of danger. Trying to get him to play Leona instead but I just let him go Carry when I have the misfortune to go bot with him because I can actually play bloody support.

I outright walk up to any ganks just to have a wall between my carry and them. ESPECIALLY Alistar. Lee Sin incoming? "Dave get behind me, i'm gonna take his Q for you"

Just as an add-on, if anyone else says "Leona don't go in just harass" to me again i'm going to scream. Tell me, of which of my abilities do I "harass" with? Autoattack stun? Short range explosion God Mode? Teleport Sword? Massive stun explosion?

I understand why support Lux should be good... Just that nobody can play it well ever. Every single time, is this going to be the first good Lux support I see?

FIRST BLOOD

Nope.

Nida is pretty famous for being the "support" you go to when you didn't get mid. The guy who rushes tear then rabadon's, doesn't buy a single ward in the tnire game because "i has traps lols" and taking farm because "i needs da ap".

To be fair, he doesn't take farm... I like to think he knows traps /=/ wards but he still doesn't buy enough and Sightstone is NOT supposed to be a 30 minute item. So that might just be wishful thinking :S