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NeutralDrow

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I ask the question not simply out of curiosity, but out of...okay, I guess curiosity is still the word, but there's two different questions at hand.

Simply put, I'm asking preference not just out of idle curiosity of other peoples' opinions. I'm also tentatively asking recommendations. I've already finished Symphonia (1.5 out of the 8 times I'll eventually need), and I'm progressing in Tales of the Abyss, as well as Symphonia's sorta-sequel.

Too long, didn't read: What Tales game (if any) did you like best, and which one should I play after completing the current ones?
 

GyroCaptain

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I'm a very sad person who hasn't played any of them yet. I need to get a PS emulator up ins to match my SNES one and go digging a bit to catch up on the old ones.
 

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I've heard good things about Vesperia, which has also generated the most fan art. I consider the volume of fanart a good measure of overall quality.
 

Flying-Emu

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Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World is an atrocity that does not deserve to grace the earth.

Stick with Tales of Symphonia and keep your idea of a good story intact.
 

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I have only played Vesperia and Symphonia. Vesperia had much better characters and small gameplay upgrades, like free running. Symphonia has a better overall story, environment, and setting. However, Symphonia was good, but I only played it once. Vesperia I have played, at least five times. Even got all the achievements for it. So Vesperia. That was the best game of '08.
 

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Tales of Symphonia is second only to Tales of Phantasia, the best of them all.

Whoever knows the story to that game knows why phantasia is the best (and of course, the battle system is stellar).
 

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Flying-Emu said:
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World is an atrocity that does not deserve to grace the earth.

Stick with Tales of Symphonia and keep your idea of a good story intact.
Very much so. Whats the point of making a fan game if I cant actually play as the people I came to play? Although you have to admit, it started off with a novel concept.

My recommendation goes to replaying Tales of Symphonia, there is always more to do in that game, like did you complete the coliseum? Or find Genus and Raines mother? You'll want to replay the game just to do the last one, it's actually a really interesting side story.
 

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black lincon said:
Flying-Emu said:
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World is an atrocity that does not deserve to grace the earth.

Stick with Tales of Symphonia and keep your idea of a good story intact.
Very much so. Whats the point of making a fan game if I cant actually play as the people I came to play? Although you have to admit, it started of with a novel concept.

My recommendation goes to replaying Tales of Symphonia, there is always more to do in that game, like did you complete the coliseum? Or find Genus and Raines mother? You'll want to replay the game just to do the last one, it's actually a really interesting side story.
You can do the Arena? I thought that was a myth. I've never found a way to do it. As for the Genis/Raine mother story, I found that the first time through. It almost brought a tear to my eye, to be honest.

As for the "novel concept" idea, it may have been novel, but c'mon! The character was practically a DOLL. He didn't move the story at all. The main character is supposed to be exciting, but Emil was just irritating.

Every time he talked I wanted to stab myself. Every time Marta said she loved him (DEAR GOD SHE'S LIKE 14 DAMMIT), I tried to stab myself.

Stupid rubber walls.

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NoTroll said:
Tales of Shit
The irony is palpable.

If you don't get that, look at his name.
 

NeutralDrow

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black lincon said:
Flying-Emu said:
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World is an atrocity that does not deserve to grace the earth.

Stick with Tales of Symphonia and keep your idea of a good story intact.
Very much so. Whats the point of making a fan game if I cant actually play as the people I came to play? Although you have to admit, it started of with a novel concept.

My recommendation goes to replaying Tales of Symphonia, there is always more to do in that game, like did you complete the coliseum? Or find Genus and Raines mother? You'll want to replay the game just to do the last one, it's actually a really interesting side story.
Yep. Finished all parts of the Coliseum except the team battle against the Tales cameo characters. And the fact that I found their mother on my first playthrough is why I'm 2/3 of the way through the game again with Raine as my soulmate (Colette was the first...by deliberate choice).

As for Knight of Ratatosk, I apologize for disrupting your state of mind, but I've already become attached to Emil and Marta (and Tenebie). I'm afraid I have no choice but to complete the remaining 4/5 of the game...though I will admit I'm not terribly interested in the Dragon Quest Monsters-style monster taming (except that it means I don't have to switch out my two mains).

So far it's looking like the recommendations are for Vesperia and Phantasia...depending on timing (how long it takes me to finish the current ones), I'll probably do the latter. I have a PS emulator and a PS2. I don't have an Xbox 360, yet...
 

black lincon

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Flying-Emu said:
black lincon said:
Flying-Emu said:
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World is an atrocity that does not deserve to grace the earth.

Stick with Tales of Symphonia and keep your idea of a good story intact.
Very much so. Whats the point of making a fan game if I cant actually play as the people I came to play? Although you have to admit, it started of with a novel concept.

My recommendation goes to replaying Tales of Symphonia, there is always more to do in that game, like did you complete the coliseum? Or find Genus and Raines mother? You'll want to replay the game just to do the last one, it's actually a really interesting side story.
You can do the Arena? I thought that was a myth. I've never found a way to do it. As for the Genis/Raine mother story, I found that the first time through. It almost brought a tear to my eye, to be honest.

As for the "novel concept" idea, it may have been novel, but c'mon! The character was practically a DOLL. He didn't move the story at all. The main character is supposed to be exciting, but Emil was just irritating.

Every time he talked I wanted to stab myself. Every time Marta said she loved him (DEAR GOD SHE'S LIKE 14 DAMMIT), I tried to stab myself.

Stupid rubber walls.
I honestly liked the sad sack Emil plus optimist Marta combo. Then again eureka 7 is my favorite anime so that might be an indicator of my prejudices. I'm completely with you on to transformed Emil, he was a dick and threw the balance of for any part he was in.

I thought Emil could have moved the story along, I had high hopes for that story, I really did, but those Namco bastards had to go and screw with it. I mean come on, an evil Lloyd, a messed up racist society with a resistance movement, and a church being backed by several or the heroes of regeneration. then you have this kid dragged into it all by the actions of Lloyd, who has become completely shut of to all the other HoR. Plus a girl being chased by the resistance movement. It could have been an amazing game, it should have been an amazing game.

On a side note, did you see the cameo by a certain bad-ass thousand-year-old hero/Lloyd father?

And yes you can beat the arena in the first ToS, you have to do it late in the game though and it's incredibly hard but the Valerye Swords(I believe that was their name, haven't played it in over a year) are worth it.
 

black lincon

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NeutralDrow said:
black lincon said:
Flying-Emu said:
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World is an atrocity that does not deserve to grace the earth.

Stick with Tales of Symphonia and keep your idea of a good story intact.
Very much so. Whats the point of making a fan game if I cant actually play as the people I came to play? Although you have to admit, it started of with a novel concept.

My recommendation goes to replaying Tales of Symphonia, there is always more to do in that game, like did you complete the coliseum? Or find Genus and Raines mother? You'll want to replay the game just to do the last one, it's actually a really interesting side story.
Yep. Finished all parts of the Coliseum except the team battle against the Tales cameo characters. And the fact that I found their mother on my first playthrough is why I'm 2/3 of the way through the game again with Raine as my soulmate (Colette was the first...by deliberate choice).

As for Knight of Ratatosk, I apologize for disrupting your state of mind, but I've already become attached to Emil and Marta (and Tenebie). I'm afraid I have no choice but to complete the remaining 4/5 of the game...though I will admit I'm not terribly interested in the Dragon Quest Monsters-style monster taming (except that it means I don't have to switch out my two mains).

So far it's looking like the recommendations are for Vesperia and Phantasia...depending on timing (how long it takes me to finish the current ones), I'll probably do the latter. I have a PS emulator and a PS2. I don't have an Xbox 360, yet...
Oh no, you misunderstand me. I love Emil(non ratatosk mode) and Marta and doubly tenebie, but around 3/4 the game they throw 20 some twists in and cock it all up. I'm sorry to say that by the end of the game you will hate and on your second play through it will be too easy to be interesting. remember the fight with Lloyd at the beginning? I beat him without taking damage on my second playthrough.
 

NeutralDrow

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black lincon said:
Oh no, you misunderstand me. I love Emil(non ratatosk mode) and Marta and doubly tenebie, but around 3/4 the game they throw 20 some twists in and cock it all up. I'm sorry to say that by the end of the game you will hate and on your second play through it will be too easy to be interesting. remember the fight with Lloyd at the beginning? I beat him without taking damage on my second playthrough.
Hmm...I've heard similar things about Luke in the last third of Abyss. I'll keep it in mind, but I've heard similar things about other games that I like, as well, so forgive me my grain of salt.

That's right, Fate/Stay Night fans, I liked Heaven's Feel.

Oh, incidentally, is there a reason to play through Dawn of the New World again? Symphonia I'm replaying for all the soulmate stories, and I'll at least start Abyss again because of the second Mystic Artes, but does this game have anything along those lines, or is it just for 100% completion? Besides getting the Bad End, which I've been assured is pretty bad (storyline-wise, not writing quality-wise)?
 

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Tales of Phantasia is pretty good, but my god its long for a GBA game (I have it GBA, its probably for NES or SNES though...)
 

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Symphonia. Only played that, Legendia and Phantasia but with those two I found my attention flagging towards the end, particularly with Legendia. Symphonia to me was like Star Ocean 3 without the near-mandatory obtuse item creation system or ridiculous midgame difficulty spike. Better plot than SO3 as well, not genius but the best Tales game plot.

Additionally, what do you think the next 'Tales of ____' will be?
 
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GyroCaptain said:
I'm a very sad person who hasn't played any of them yet. I need to get a PS emulator up ins to match my SNES one and go digging a bit to catch up on the old ones.
I´m almost as sad person as you are, since I have played only Tales of Phantasia, and I liked it...I think. It´s been a long time. I do remember that it had one of my favourite video game antagonists, and just because he wasn´t as traditional villain as one might think.
 

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Is it already out? When did that happen?
and why is it so bad? I agree, ToS set the standards VERY fucking high, but I was truly hoping ToS 2 might live up to it.
So care to elaborate?