Poll: tenure

[Jroo wuz heer]

umm so... tenure seems REALLY annoying to me.
my french teacher doesnt teach us anything than gives tests that 3/4 of the class flunk and the only reason he doesnt get fired is cuz he has tenure.
so yeah if you have good experiences or bad experiences please post them and vote

edit: i complained about it to the principal and he said he wanted to fire him

and tenure in my school.. thingy is handed out based on how long you worked there, not skill

 

[Eumersian]

Though tenure can produce teachers like that, it also may make some teachers be less uptight because they don't have to worry about doing everything exactly right.

 

[child of lileth]

If it's a case like in the OP, then I hate it. I've never seen any other example in my life, so I can't say much else on the subject.

 

[Dags90]

Tenure is a mixed bag. Do some educators abuse the system? Definitely. However, it also protects educators from having to submit to social or political pressure. The second part is invaluable in education. I would be more likely to blame the school for giving someone who doesn't deserve the protection tenure than to blame tenure itself. I'm also be more inclined to a "soft tenure". That is, a tenure that can be rescinded by a department rather than an absolute tenure.

 

[Betancore]

My science teacher is basically set for life and he has a similar manner - teaches us nothing, and if we don't get it, we Google it ourselves. Whereas the teacher I had last year, who had more progressive methods, pretty much rewrote the curriculum, and actually taught us properly, was fired. I thought it was teachers like that who were supposed to get tenure. I don't think it's something that practiced in Australia any more, but what my science teacher has is pretty similar.

 

[Jroo wuz heer]

umm so... tenure seems REALLY annoying to me.
my french teacher doesnt teach us anything than gives tests that 3/4 of the class flunk and the only reason he doesnt get fired is cuz he has tenure.

Maybe he fails you all because you're not so good at French?
Do his other classes do well?
Is it definitely his fault none of you learn anything?

I have no problem with tenure at this stage, and I also hate seeing teachers demeaned, so if you could clarify those points for me, it might help.

clarify my point?
HE HAS AN IMAGINARY FRIEND NAMED OTTO SMIDLAPPE

 

[Generator]

I'm also be more inclined to a "soft tenure". That is, a tenure that can be rescinded by a department rather than an absolute tenure.

This sounds like a good plan. Let's do this.

After all, tenure is necessary to an extent, but certain teachers abuse the power it gives them. This turns them into space-wasters, taking the place of truly qualified teachers who were simply born too late to have a chance. "Soft" tenure sounds like the best possible solution.

 

[Jroo wuz heer]

umm so... tenure seems REALLY annoying to me.
my french teacher doesnt teach us anything than gives tests that 3/4 of the class flunk and the only reason he doesnt get fired is cuz he has tenure.

Maybe he fails you all because you're not so good at French?
Do his other classes do well?
Is it definitely his fault none of you learn anything?

I have no problem with tenure at this stage, and I also hate seeing teachers demeaned, so if you could clarify those points for me, it might help.

clarify my point?
HE HAS AN IMAGINARY FRIEND NAMED OTTO SMIDLAPPE

That doesn't exactly answer my questions, does it?
Does his having an imaginary friend interfere with his teaching as well?

I'd like you to convince me that this is actually a case of misuse of tenure.

well french is his third language, hes better at spanish than french but the spanish teachers first language is spanish so...
and I talked to the principal about him and he said he should get fired but he has tenure

and there are people who do well, but for the most part its all c's to failing grades

 

[hurfdurp]

Tenure for yourself is probably pretty pimp. I feel sorry for your teacher (I assume this is High School), imagine how disgruntled you'd be if you had his job long enough to acquire tenure. Study hard, show him you care, and ask him for help if you're having such a hard time. If he can put a face to the name when he's grading you, that alone will help you do better.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

I've never had a similar circumstance like that, but that Teacher must have been doing something right to remain in that school for that long right?

On a side note: This sounds an awful lot like my History Class last year. Of which I got an A in while the majority of the class' grades ranged from C+ to F. You wanna know how I did it? I read the book. Don't blame the teacher when you're given the material to learn yourself. If you don't have the material in a book or something, try talking to him to find out what the test is on.