Elvis didn't make Rock music. I'm sick and tired of him getting all the credit it. Other people, like Wynonie harris, Jesse Stone, Roy Brown and Big Joe Turner all did much more for the genre than Elvis. Elvis was just another corporate cash-in, who happened to get lucky.cleverlymadeup said:
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Harrision. Playing the Sitar is not teeny-boppy garbage in the slightest. John Lennon's compositional skills were years ahead of their time. Tomorrow Never Knows, A Day in the Life, Rain, Revolution 1, Revolution 9, etc. Are all very progressive songs in nature. They went against the grain. I know there were other artists around at the time that broke ground ground, but the Beatles were the best at it, in my opinion. They helped start Progressive Rock.Uncompetative said:
Are just a handfull of the artists that have cited Beatles as influences. Ozzy Osbourne has said that had The Beatles not existed, he probably wouldn't have become a musician.
When the Beatles were recording "Tomorrow Never Knows" or "Strawberry Fields Forever" is more amazing in the context of its times... 1966's top ten singles in order... The Ballad of the Green Berets (SSG Barry Sadler), Cherish (The Association), You're My Soul and Inspiration (The Righteous Brothers), Reach Out I'll Be There (The Four Tops), 96 Tears (? and the Mysterians ), Last Train to Clarksville (The Monkees), Monday Monday (The Mamas and the Papas), You Can't Hurry Love (The Supremes), Poor Side of Town (Johnny Rivers), California Dreamin' (The Mamas and the Papas. Really LOL.
At one time, they owned a song every single spot on the top ten charts. Much more than just a boy band.Uncompetative said:
Ah yes, but surely that is pop music. The Rolling Stones aren't known for their chart success, but for entertaining hundreds of thousands of people for decades in wildly successful world tours - they are musicians. The Beatles gave up touring and retreated to the studio, shunning their loyal fanbase.YouGetWhatsGiven said:
True. But you can't really think that the Beatles had no impact and that they where just like every other band.Uncompetative said:
did i say he did? no i didn't, i said he opened to doors for it. ok this might sound wrong but frankly it's due to the time period, Elvis was a white guy who played music that was predominately played by black people, so it "allowed" white ppl to listen to it without the stigma of listening to "black" music (the actual term was much worse and i won't say it). for white folks to listen to blues or jazz during the time when Elvis began was a bad thing, you became a social outcast, women were considered dirty sluts and whores. Elvis was a white guy and that made it socially acceptable to listen to the type of music.iain62a said:
he never built the house, he just opened the door for everyone to come in and party
I'm not the biggest fan of the Beatles, but their music influenced the world to such a degree that has rarely been done before. They were more than just music, they were a sensation, a generation even. It was just what the world needed at the time, and we ate it up like their music was jell-o.
Yes, they are pop music, and so are The Rolling Stones. The reason they're not remembered for their chart success is because, like a lot of other groups at the time, they found it difficult to get to the number 1. spot because it was constantly held by the Beatles.Uncompetative said:
Anyway, that's not really important, because we're not debating whether they were popular or not. What I'm letting you know is that, when the Beatles stopped touring, that's the part of their career that sets them apart from just being a popular band. They wrote their best stuff then because they weren't constrained to writing music that could be replicated on stage, so they could actually experiment through recording techniques and having lots of auxiliary instruments.
The only song of theres I ever really liked was across the universe -yay medatation- so moderate I guess.
It was more than hippies. It was that their music spanned the listening audience. They had a wide range of songs that basically struck a chord with people of all ages and dispositions.C Lion said:
Now, late Beatles songs are interesting because they made drug-induced lyrics and recording techniques the norm so that other drug-induced and experimental music was allowed to be embraced despite the disapproval of the older generations.
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I think you're going a bit far with the stigma attached to white people listening to black music. There were plenty of black people who gained commercial success before that era. Josh White springs to mind escpecially, he was huge during the 30s and 40s. He was even on first name terms with Franklin Roosevelt, the president at the time. There were lots of other White guys who were playing that type of black music before too, like Bill Haley for one. Presley was just a business venture to his manager, a succesful one at that. However, I do appreciate a lot of Elvis' work, especially his earlier stuff. I probably came across quite aggresively in that post, didn't mean it in that way.cleverlymadeup said: