Poll: The Holocaust on repeat

[Flying-Emu]

This was a question that came up in my Communication Arts class a few days ago.

The Holocaust, the well-known mass slaughter of eleven million people deemed "undesirable" by the Third Reicht during World War II, was a horrific atrocity. After the end of WWII, when the Nuremburg Trials (in which Nazi leaders were sentenced for their crimes) commenced, the newly-formed United Nations convened to create laws against genocide and the mass, systematic killing of a group of people.

In the sixty or so years since the Nuremburg trials, there have been several instances that have been classified as "genocide". The Bosnian massacres, Rwanda, and a few other lesser-known killings have occurred, and been comparatively quickly dealt with.

However, I began to think. All of these killings since the Holocaust did not occur during a time where the superpowers of the world were entrenched in either a depression or a deadly war. Were a war to occur at the same time as a "genocide", would as much attention be taken to deal with the issue?

Could the Holocaust happen again? Could a slaughter of eleven million people go unabated ever again?

"Never again, I hope."

For clarity's sake, I've placed the link to Merriam-Webster's definition of a "genocide."

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Genocide

 

[Nova Tendril]

Genocide still occurs across the globe to this very day.

 

[Daye.04]

I would say yes. because of the point you yourself bring up. Now it's "easy" to deal with possible holocaust repetitions. But in a more tense time, there'll most likely be little people acn do with it, since they've got their hands full. And those who doesn't have their hands full. Well, there's a reason they don't

A big yes from me. Most likely. Id there is a thrid world war. And someone fancies the idea, they can - without problems - recreat the whole thing.

Unfortainly

 

[Flying-Emu]

Genocide still occurs across the globe to this very day.

The genocide in the Sudan comes to mind.

EDIT: Also the genocide that happened in Yugoslavia a while back.

Neither of those had eleven million people slain. I'm asking if the Holocaust, not genocide, could be repeated.

 

[Nova Tendril]

Genocide still occurs across the globe to this very day.

The genocide in the Sudan comes to mind.

EDIT: Also the genocide that happened in Yugoslavia a while back.

Neither of those had eleven million people slain. I'm asking if the Holocaust, not genocide, could be repeated.

Anything is possible. I can see it happening.

 

[Renikor]

Yes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in class a few days ago we discussed how Hitler first came off as a sign of hope. He went from the unknown the the highest position in power he could achieve, by speaking. He then used the german followers/soldiers/listeners and slowly manipulated them.

Obama seems like a sign of hope right? I like him, I voted for him, but all in all, it seems kinda like the same case. Nobody hardly ever heard about him then he started preaching and etc. No, he hasn't done anything yet, but he can slowly and shortly manipulate all of america and turn them against another race or religion.



Anyway, just a thought. Nothing against Obama, but seriously, nobody ever fucking learns from their mistakes.

 

[Penguinishka]

While I want to believe that an event comparable to the Holocaust could never occur in the world today, I still have to say that it is possible.
"Those who do not study history are destined to repeat" springs to mind and I think fewer people do study it. I once heard on MTV(I'll admit not a great example) that a young man had no idea what the Holocaust was and felt that it wasn't important.
I hope that as the world becomes an even more global community that smaller, but no less horrendous incidents like the Sudan will not be allowed to just continue. Thus helping prevent anything like the Holocaust from happening again.

 

[Weaver]

Yes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in class a few days ago we discussed how Hitler first came off as a sign of hope. He went from the unknown the the highest position in power he could achieve, by speaking. He then used the german followers/soldiers/listeners and slowly manipulated them.

Also, his opposition started mysteriously disappearing.

 

[jboking]

Genocide will probably be a constant. However, a genocide the magnitude of the Holocaust that also inspires one of the largest wars of all time? I dont know, we may think to catch the warning signs this time around.

 

[theSovietConnection]

I'd consider rewording the question. It would probably be better worded as "Do you think the Holocaust will ever happen again?", implying a bit of certainty. Just because something can happen doesn't necessarily mean it will.
[/nitpicking]

Anyways, back on track, it is almost certain it will happen, as genocides have occured again and again and again. Maybe these examples have not all been on the same scale, but I believe that eventually, one on the same scale will almost undoubtedly happen again.

 

[Nova Tendril]

Yes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in class a few days ago we discussed how Hitler first came off as a sign of hope. He went from the unknown the the highest position in power he could achieve, by speaking. He then used the german followers/soldiers/listeners and slowly manipulated them.

Also, his opposition started mysteriously disappearing.

True but Hitler technically came into power legally at first. He manipulated the government to continue passing laws that kept granting him more and more power until he essentially controlled the entire country. It was only then he truly began to preform his evil deeds.

So the best way to prevent another Holocaust is to prevent any one person from holding to much power.

 

[jboking]

Yes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in class a few days ago we discussed how Hitler first came off as a sign of hope. He went from the unknown the the highest position in power he could achieve, by speaking. He then used the german followers/soldiers/listeners and slowly manipulated them.

Obama seems like a sign of hope right? I like him, I voted for him, but all in all, it seems kinda like the same case. Nobody hardly ever heard about him then he started preaching and etc. No, he hasn't done anything yet, but he can slowly and shortly manipulate all of america and turn them against another race or religion.



Anyway, just a thought. Nothing against Obama, but seriously, nobody ever fucking learns from their mistakes.

This could be that warning sign we are supposed to catch. Of course, Hitler was really only able to convince people of his words because of the animosity already felt by the german people towards the actions of the League of Nations.

So really, we would need some HUGE atrocity to occur before we could ever follow Obama into another Holocaust. *looks towards ground zero* Oh wait...

 

[Moormur]

Absolutely. It happened at least twice since WWII, and on a bigger scale. History tells us that Communist China and Soviet Russia both slaughtered more of its citizens on a much higher scale (as in millions and millions more) than Hitler did. That's communism for ya...

 

[teisjm]

There will always be psychos in the world and some of them will achieve high lvls of power. Hopefully the world will get more unified and be able to stop them faster, so we don't end up with WW3

 

[sheic99]

Genocide still occurs across the globe to this very day.

The genocide in the Sudan comes to mind.

EDIT: Also the genocide that happened in Yugoslavia a while back.

Neither of those had eleven million people slain. I'm asking if the Holocaust, not genocide, could be repeated.

Under Stalin, there were 7,000,000 killed in Ukraine between 1932 and 1933. This number is also highly disputable because a great number of victims killed were never recorded. I have heard as much as 11 million also. The Holocaust lasted for 3-4 years. While the Holocaust was much more effecient, the Ukrainians were killed by forcible famine.

Edit: The Ukrainian genocide was basically a how-to guide for Hitler.

 

[Inverse Skies]

The difference with the Holocaust is that it was the systematicelimination of a race, ie there were very well defined plans that went into killing those millions of jews with a rather elaborate system.

I'd be very surprised if anything like that ever happened again in real life... I just don't see how you could do it. It took the Nazi's the better part of four years to fully set up and run the Holocaust... you couldn't do it, not with satellite imagery and more digital information than ever before... Thankfully you could never do it again.

 

[Pumpkin_Eater]

Genocide still occurs across the globe to this very day.

Took the words right out of my mouth. It's not a question of if, but when.

 

[iJosh]

*Deep thinking*

Maybe.

 

[mike1921]

Genocide still occurs across the globe to this very day.

The genocide in the Sudan comes to mind.

EDIT: Also the genocide that happened in Yugoslavia a while back.

Neither of those had eleven million people slain. I'm asking if the Holocaust, not genocide, could be repeated.

The Holocaust was a historical event. It wouldn't be a holocaust unless it was exactly like the one Hitler did.

I think WWIII will be over religion, specifically a nuclear conflict between mainly Christian nations, and the Muslim world. The inevitable result of this war will be the genocide of either the Christian of Muslim race.
(And murder of every member of a religious group, even of different races is still a genocide)

Christianity and Muslims are races?

We know what a genocide is.

 

[Elexia]

Wouldn't the Christianity versus Muslims thing be like the Crusades? That was just done so Christians could take over the Holy Land and pretty much started the problems they got there now...