Poll: The Misuse of English
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The usage of the word like when someone doesn't know what to say. I also live in a country where the majority of people in my ethnic group speak butchered Dutch (Afrikaans). There is nothing worse than trying to correct a person who is used to speaking on of the simplest languages in the world. English has tens of thousands of words and complex rules. Afrikaans doesn't. It hurts my English ego. A lot.
What is a "chav"?
Is it the equivalent of a "bogan"?
I do not like "woulda" or "would of". "To" when the writer means "too" and "loose" when the writer intends to say "lose" also annoy me. I think when it happens on a regular basis, the writer is showing a great deal of disrespect to the reader. Whether he/she intends to, the message I receive is "I do not think you are worth writing clearly and coherently for, and therefor I will not bother learning to spell or bothering to re-read and correct my writing."
Please understand, this is criticism of habitual bad spellers, those I know should know better.
Is it the equivalent of a "bogan"?
I do not like "woulda" or "would of". "To" when the writer means "too" and "loose" when the writer intends to say "lose" also annoy me. I think when it happens on a regular basis, the writer is showing a great deal of disrespect to the reader. Whether he/she intends to, the message I receive is "I do not think you are worth writing clearly and coherently for, and therefor I will not bother learning to spell or bothering to re-read and correct my writing."
Please understand, this is criticism of habitual bad spellers, those I know should know better.
I teach at a university level. I am constantly frustrated by the inability of many second- and third-year students to write a coherent sentence. These are supposedly some of the best and brightest 19- and 20-year-olds in the country, and they don't know enough about basic grammar to write properly.
However, here's my "Top Five Bastardisations of English" (not all are from student essays):
1. "Nouning" verbs. "Learnings" is management BS for "lessons" or "things that we have learned".
2. Using the word "immediately" in this way: "I gave him the document immediately it was signed." (Urge to kill... rising.)
3. Confusing "their", "they're" and "there". It makes me want to channel Phil Ken Sebben and start yelling "Not they're! Their!"
4. Misusing the word "wether". I do enjoy being able to point out that someone has in fact referred to a castrated sheep when this happens.
5. Using the word "gay" to signify dislike for something. If that something happens to be bi- or homosexual, you're a bigot. If not, you're a tool.
The use of "would of", "could of" and "should of" irritates me immensely, too...
However, here's my "Top Five Bastardisations of English" (not all are from student essays):
1. "Nouning" verbs. "Learnings" is management BS for "lessons" or "things that we have learned".
2. Using the word "immediately" in this way: "I gave him the document immediately it was signed." (Urge to kill... rising.)
3. Confusing "their", "they're" and "there". It makes me want to channel Phil Ken Sebben and start yelling "Not they're! Their!"
4. Misusing the word "wether". I do enjoy being able to point out that someone has in fact referred to a castrated sheep when this happens.
5. Using the word "gay" to signify dislike for something. If that something happens to be bi- or homosexual, you're a bigot. If not, you're a tool.
The use of "would of", "could of" and "should of" irritates me immensely, too...
Pants.
It just annoys me. (Pants = Trousers is the one I hate, I mean)
But the "I could care less" is the main one I despise.
Out of interest, who here says things likes "Brass" as "Brarss". So you pronounce it with an R in the middle even though it doesn't have one.
Oh, and Hache. It's hard to type >.>. The letter H. I don't like people saying Hache instead of Ache. ... You have no idea what I'm talking about do you?
It just annoys me. (Pants = Trousers is the one I hate, I mean)
But the "I could care less" is the main one I despise.
Out of interest, who here says things likes "Brass" as "Brarss". So you pronounce it with an R in the middle even though it doesn't have one.
Oh, and Hache. It's hard to type >.>. The letter H. I don't like people saying Hache instead of Ache. ... You have no idea what I'm talking about do you?
Similar, but not quite. Think of Vicki Pollard, from Little Britain. That's a chav. I've heard that it stands for "commission housing, alcoholic and violent", but that's just hearsay.RaphaelsRedemption said:
"Bogan" can be an affectionate term, depending on the person. There are better and worse categories of bogan - a bogan who doesn't drink pre-mixed bourbon, wear flannelette shirts and tight jeans, or drive a hotted-up Ford/Holden is probably in the former category. However, there's no way "chav" or "chavs" can ever be construed as being a term of endearment.*
* Unless it's the Christy Hemme Appreciation Vocational Society. That's an exception.
I hate excessive use of he word "like"
There are people in my college who use it at least ten times in a sentence. It makes me want to leap over my desk and throttle them.
Another one is the misuse of the word literally. some people should just be banned from speaking
There are people in my college who use it at least ten times in a sentence. It makes me want to leap over my desk and throttle them.
Another one is the misuse of the word literally. some people should just be banned from speaking
technically it is "an" because the sound is a vowel (mp3 is pronounced "em-p-3" s&m is "ess-&-em" etc). and technically "mp3" isn't an acronym, it's an 'initialism' (I'm currently revising for my A-level english language so I'm a demon at terminology.) Feel free to tell him that and be like "yeah I'm actually cleverer than you trololololol"SenseOfTumour said:
I also know a guy who just uses big words because he knows them, it gets really annoying
In a few months I will have completed a degree in English and Linguistics. I can say whatever I like due to the probability of being the more qualified in this language than whoever I'm speaking too. In real life though. Everyones qualified in everything on the internet.
OT: I'm really not that fussy about how people write or speak in casual conversation like on a forum or texting or anything like that. So long as it's easy to understand I don't mind if people use the wrong your/'re or spell definitely with an 'a'. Especially typing it's pretty easy to make a mistake because of habit rather than ignorance.
Correcting peoples grammar/spelling is annoying and boring.
In a published or formal text errors look sloppy and unprofessional and thus it is more offensive.
I wouldn't worry too much about the "could care less" thing. I once had a friend who forgot the word statutory and talked for about 10 minutes about mandatory rape before anyone was nice enough to correct him.
OT: I'm really not that fussy about how people write or speak in casual conversation like on a forum or texting or anything like that. So long as it's easy to understand I don't mind if people use the wrong your/'re or spell definitely with an 'a'. Especially typing it's pretty easy to make a mistake because of habit rather than ignorance.
Correcting peoples grammar/spelling is annoying and boring.
In a published or formal text errors look sloppy and unprofessional and thus it is more offensive.
I wouldn't worry too much about the "could care less" thing. I once had a friend who forgot the word statutory and talked for about 10 minutes about mandatory rape before anyone was nice enough to correct him.
Another thing I hear people do, is use "an mp3" when referring to a device that plays digital media. There is even a commercial on TV here that promises a "new mp3" as a prize in a contest. And no, they don't mean they're going to send you an mp3 file as a prize.SenseOfTumour said:
thanks for clearing that up.RobThePrezodent said:technically it is "an" because the sound is a vowel (mp3 is pronounced "em-p-3" s&m is "ess-&-em" etc). and technically "mp3" isn't an acronym, it's an 'initialism' (I'm currently revising for my A-level english language so I'm a demon at terminology.) Feel free to tell him that and be like "yeah I'm actually cleverer than you trololololol"SenseOfTumour said:
I also know a guy who just uses big words because he knows them, it gets really annoying
In other news, I always thought Chav came from Council House and Violent, but it's similar to the wigga of the US, except they drive cars that look like what you'd get if you crossed Pimp My Ride with Scrapheap Challenge, and they're generally overjoyed to spend £10,000 on making a £5,000 car look like it's worth £50.
Example of chav 'pimped out ride'
http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19283
They do the equivalent to cars of dunking a Rolex Watch in glitter glue. I normally don't like to stereotype, but if you dress to look like a terminally thick subhuman violent idiot, then, I might just assume you are one, you can choose what to wear after all. also, I've never felt threatened or been verbally abused by groups of skaters, punks, emos or goths.
but anyway, I'll stop on that subject as I could fill ppages with how much they annoy me, but as for language, many's the time I've been on a bus with them, and on top of the playing tinny R&B thru their mobile phones, they're usually louding calling each other 'caaahhnts!', especially if it's a young child and mother, both on the way to school.
Another point on language, swearing.
now I'm not against swearing at all, I love stand up comedy too much to be anti swearing, but it gets a bit much when it's not used for emphasis, but as punctuation, and again, when you're in public, with a captive audience like a bus, I consider it bad form to be shouting '****' at each other.If you're using profanity instead of commas, then you're talking out of your colon.
Ok, that's it, I'm tired of this grammar Nazi flaming BS. Who cares about good grammar anyways?
its rly stupd n ppl ned 2 stop complanin
Could you understand that? Then I guess the whole coherancy argument is moot since most use at least that much. Who cares if it's a pet peeve of yours? That means it's you problem. I guess I could understand if it was something important like an article about P. vulgaris, but this is a gaming forum. Bad grammar doesn't take away from the points we're making and the amount of grammar use is optional.
Edit: My example was in that last paragraph.
its rly stupd n ppl ned 2 stop complanin
Could you understand that? Then I guess the whole coherancy argument is moot since most use at least that much. Who cares if it's a pet peeve of yours? That means it's you problem. I guess I could understand if it was something important like an article about P. vulgaris, but this is a gaming forum. Bad grammar doesn't take away from the points we're making and the amount of grammar use is optional.
Edit: My example was in that last paragraph.
The use of random annoys the crap out of me but people who complain about the slow changes in human speech patterns probably also think the Polar Bears can be saved. Nothing lasts, nor should it, forever.
(Although I must lament the decline in use of 'thou' as a pronoun.)
(Although I must lament the decline in use of 'thou' as a pronoun.)
