Poll: the problem with Wii, do you agrii?

[dallan262]

Well as we all know the Wii is doing well...but will it last?

heres what im getting at..


my parents got mii my brother and sister a wii for xmas last year and i suspect my mum got it so shii can mess about on wii fit.

now the only "hardcore" gamer in my family is well mii and i live in dundee for uni (which is away from home)

now the only people in my house is my parents and siss and as far as i know they havnt even touched the wii since after the novelty wore off aka when xmas holidays was over..

have they bought anymore games for it ... no

will they? .... i highly doubt it

whys this you ask? well al tell you why my little reading friend

because they are casual gamers and casual gamers are exactly that...casual... they dont feel the urge to buy a new game like we do.. they dont watch the e3 conference to see what new game is out for the console ... they dont buy a sequal to a game because its a sequal that has a few more things to it. infact the only games we have for the wii is wii sports and boom blox (that came with the bundle) and SSBB which i bought and proves my point.

and thats where i think nintendo are going horribly wrong

they need the support from the core gamers if they want to stay ahead i can see microsoft and sony taking over later on ... unless nintendo release a new more powerful machine or a brand new core console that has all the games we want?

anyways do you agree? is your wii collecting dust or are you still wii'ing


note: im dyslexic so my spelling might be wrong

 

[NeutralDrow]

Your spelling is fine. Your lack of capitalization is off-putting, however.

From what I can put together, your point is something like "Nintendo shouldn't cater to casual gamers, because they don't buy games as often as core gamers?" If it is, I'd like to point out just how many more non- and casual gamers there are than core gamers, and possibly bring up the desirability to get more non-gamers into gaming at all, which seems to be Nintendo's goal. Not to mention that while they've put a lot of focus on casual gamers, "core" gamers have only been abandoned in their own fantasy worlds.

In response to the poll question, yes. I do play fairly often, and I'm waiting especially for Wii Sports Resort and that motion plus thing to come out.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

I own 1 game for the Wii: SSBB. I haven't seen any game I would even consider purchasing - or even renting - since then. All of their games are either recycled franchises (Metroid, Mario, Zelda etc.) or casual games involving the Wiimote. I won't even go into how horrifyingly bad their 3rd party games are.

 

[Librarian Mike]

I have a Wii and I haven't used it very much at all lately. That may change now that there are some games coming up that look like fun (i.e. new Metroid, new 2D Mario). Last year was kind of a dry spell for Nintendo, and I've been getting back into PC games, particularly older ones that I missed the first time around. Personally, I couldn't care less about the perception of people who have appointed themselves as 'hardcore' or whatever. I've been playing video games since about 1980, so as far as I'm concerned my cred is pretty solid.

 

[era81]

A ps2 with a fancy remote is what early reports on it where.Nothing I have seen really proves that wrong but on the other hand now it has punchout might have to check out now.

 

[Flying-Emu]

There is no problem with the Wii. Simply because it caters to a different clientele than you're used to, it's a problem?

Get over yourself. The Wii is monstrously successful for a reason. What's that reason, you ask?

It's bloody fun.

Xbox 360; whoopdee doo, I'm pointing and shooting again.

PS3; See above.

Wii: Holy shit I'm beating the hell out of this zombie by swinging a small plastic controller! This is fucking awesome!

How is that not fun? It feels real. Even if you're just sitting on the couch, it's far more immersive than "Press B to jump!" The Wii is an amazing piece of technology. Nintendo made the right call. They're in this for the money, just like everyone else. They made the proper business call, and I applaud them for having more foresight than Microsoft or Sony. Nintendo is on top, as they rightfully should be.

Oh, and Dead Rising: Chop Til You Drop is the best zombie-slaying game in the world. Period.

Hurray for over-use of italics!

 

[megapenguinx]

My Wii gets regular uses through Mario Kart. But seriously, there is no such thing as a "hardcore" console. Hardcore games, yes but very few people will play them and they aren't what you'd think.

 

[Flying-Emu]

My Wii gets regular uses through Mario Kart. But seriously, there is no such thing as a "hardcore" console. Hardcore games, yes but very few people will play them and they aren't what you'd think.

Contra and Metal Slug.

 

[not a zaar]

To a lot of people, the Wii at first wasn't a video game console, it was "that thing that plays Wii Sports!". Later on it became "that thing that plays Wii Sports and Wii Fit!". So yeah, they weren't interested in videogames, they were just buying into the novelty.

 

[RheynbowDash]

There is no problem with the Wii. Simply because it caters to a different clientele than you're used to, it's a problem?

Get over yourself. The Wii is monstrously successful for a reason. What's that reason, you ask?

It's bloody fun.

Xbox 360; whoopdee doo, I'm pointing and shooting again.

PS3; See above.

Wii: Holy shit I'm beating the hell out of this zombie by swinging a small plastic controller! This is fucking awesome!

How is that not fun? It feels real. Even if you're just sitting on the couch, it's far more immersive than "Press B to jump!" The Wii is an amazing piece of technology. Nintendo made the right call. They're in this for the money, just like everyone else. They made the proper business call, and I applaud them for having more foresight than Microsoft or Sony. Nintendo is on top, as they rightfully should be.

Oh, and Dead Rising: Chop Til You Drop is the best zombie-slaying game in the world. Period.

Hurray for over-use of italics!

(BTW I own a 360 and a Wii)
This. QFT. Word for f***ing word.

 

[megapenguinx]

My Wii gets regular uses through Mario Kart. But seriously, there is no such thing as a "hardcore" console. Hardcore games, yes but very few people will play them and they aren't what you'd think.

Contra and Metal Slug.

Exactly, and the original Ninja Turtles, and all those impossibly impossible games. (Stupid Battletoads). None of this MGS, Halo, Gears, or Killzone nonsense.

 

[yosophat]

I think "casual" gamers are not gamers at all. Nintendo woke up one day and decided to appeal to people who... well people are were never interested in video games to begin with. I did not get a Wii, originally, because I didn't feel like searching high and low for a store that had one. Then one day I walk into a Best Buy head strait to the games as always to check the new releases, then I hear this somewhat large, not young, black woman praising her Wii and her copy of Wii Sports and declaring "as long as I have my Wii; I'll be happy (swinging her arm as if she was throwing an imaginary bowling ball)". So these are the kinds of people who got a Wii; non-gamers who know a good fad when they see it. I just wanted a Wii to play SSBB and Metroid 3 and maybe Twilight Princess or even Mario Galaxy, but no now it's counsel for everybody.

 

[WorldCritic]

I have not played my Wii in a long time, and when I do it's usually to play something off of the virtual console.

 

[thiosk]

i hacked mine to run emulators for games that have not been released on virtual console. I play more of that than any other console since the snes.

 

[RagnorakTres]

I'm getting one for a few reasons: SSBB, Monster Hunter 3 and Tetsunoko vs. Capcom. It's not that the 'core gamers aren't catered to, it's that it's taken the developers a little while to realize the awesomeness available in this sleek white box. Capcom seems to be one of the first to have done so and I'm a Capcom fanboy, so this is all good...

No, I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, if anything I'm a Sony fanboy, but I have no patience for the console wars and will not ignore a systems power simply because it is more casual than 'core.

 

[A random person]

I play a game on it on occasion, like the Nintendo franchise games and virtual console games. Really would have benefited from having 360-esque specs in retrospect, though. Not a graphics whore, but the Wii gets excluded a lot because of its inferior technology, diminishing games on the system, thus diminishing what really matters in a console.

 

[Flour]

[...]

Did you even read the first post?

The wii is successful because it's not too expensive, and could be used at a party.
So that's 1 wii and maybe three games that will be sold to non-gamers. Assuming the wii never stops working, that will be the only thing that person buys for it.

The problem here is that once a casual gamer has the three games he or she wants(let's say Wii sports, Wii fit and Wii karaoke) that person will never again buy a wii game. It's nice that 200 million units will be sold(if not more) but when only 20 million people buy more than three games for it.. eh, fuck it. Nintendo doesn't care, they will have sold 200 million units.

 

[demoman_chaos]

I only play the Wii for 2 games, Brawl and House of the Dead. The motion gimmick is just that, a gimmick. It didn't add anything to a game for me (stick flailing isn;t fun and that is about all you can do with a Wiimote), it HAS however detrected from it. I played CoD3 for the Wii after playing the PS2 version. I gave up on teh Wii version. The QTE with setting up a bomb and the CQC fights were near impossible. The nuncuk would not register my movements no matter how hard I yanked teh thing around. I had to basically spin the nunchuk like a sling/lasso/somethingelseyoutwirlonastring to pull the pin on the bombs.

I will take button mashing over stick-flailing anyday.

 

[MK Tha Rebel]

The Wii gave me the impression of "novelty item." Yeah, motion-sensing is cool and all (when it WORKS RIGHT) but it doesn't have a lasting appeal. It's fun, and then you get bored with it. My friend owns a Wii, a PSP, and a PS2. We play the Wii for a few minutes, then get bored and play PS2, or drive to my house and play PS3. So, in small dosages, the Wii is great.

With that said, I don't think it's worth the price tag plus the price of games for it, just for the fact that it wouldn't get enough use to justify the money I would end up spending on it. I use my PS3 enough that I getting my money's worth. But that's just me.

 

[NeutralDrow]

[...]

Did you even read the first post?

The wii is successful because it's not too expensive, and could be used at a party.
So that's 1 wii and maybe three games that will be sold to non-gamers. Assuming the wii never stops working, that will be the only thing that person buys for it.

The problem here is that once a casual gamer has the three games he or she wants(let's say Wii sports, Wii fit and Wii karaoke) that person will never again buy a wii game. It's nice that 200 million units will be sold(if not more) but when only 20 million people buy more than three games for it.. eh, fuck it. Nintendo doesn't care, they will have sold 200 million units.

Except that they're more likely to buy more games than that once they've been acclimated.