Poll: The 'Real' Man Debate
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I prefer someone, be they male or female, to take pride in their appearance. I don't really care what they wear, how they wear their hair, or whether they choose to use make-up or not, as long as they don't look like a slob.
John Barrowman cares about his looks. This person/thing (never sure on the internet, right?) is fairly certain Nathan Fillion does, as well. Obviously that means everyone else should, because no matter how good looking you are, you can still only dream of looking as good as either of those two. And no matter how manly and straight you are, you would still turn gay if given the chance to be partner with either of them.
So essentially, yes. And this comes from a person/thing who/that hasn't put any effort in its outwards appearance since it bought a new hat about 2 years ago.
So essentially, yes. And this comes from a person/thing who/that hasn't put any effort in its outwards appearance since it bought a new hat about 2 years ago.
Oh s***...I clicked all natural because I thought you meant pertaining to their nature. Well everyone mentally deduct one from that.
Do whatever you want. If you personally want to provoke a certain attitude though, like professionalism in an interview, don't expect people to take you seriously if you don't portray that.
Do whatever you want. If you personally want to provoke a certain attitude though, like professionalism in an interview, don't expect people to take you seriously if you don't portray that.
What the fuck is a ?real? man? Both men and women should be able to do whatever the fuck they want, without social stigma. If men want to wear make-up, shave their body hair, and wear dresses, then they should. If women want to let their body hair grow and not wear skirts, then they can. They might not ?work? on you, but nor does guys thinking that wearing trench-coats and fedoras look ?cool?.
All you need to do is keep yourself trim, clean, and hygenic. That?s. Fucking. It. Yeah, people will judge you ? all humans make their first impressions on others based on appearance before they actually get to know them, that?s just a sad fact - but if you can deal with that, then go for it. If you have enough friends around you that accept you and you?re not looking to get laid or whatever (I do mean that in the kindest way), then go for it. Of course, if you?re going for a job interview or something, then it?d probably be advisable to drop the eyeliner and just arrive in a suit or something.
As for personal experience, my friends have recently been telling me that my clothes are shit and I should start wearing skinny jeans, even though they feel so fucking uncomfortable and I can barely worm my way into them. So what does that make me? To be honest, I just see myself as a ?person?.
Sometimes, I hate gender.
All you need to do is keep yourself trim, clean, and hygenic. That?s. Fucking. It. Yeah, people will judge you ? all humans make their first impressions on others based on appearance before they actually get to know them, that?s just a sad fact - but if you can deal with that, then go for it. If you have enough friends around you that accept you and you?re not looking to get laid or whatever (I do mean that in the kindest way), then go for it. Of course, if you?re going for a job interview or something, then it?d probably be advisable to drop the eyeliner and just arrive in a suit or something.
As for personal experience, my friends have recently been telling me that my clothes are shit and I should start wearing skinny jeans, even though they feel so fucking uncomfortable and I can barely worm my way into them. So what does that make me? To be honest, I just see myself as a ?person?.
Sometimes, I hate gender.
If you have a Y chromosome then you are genetically a male. Whatever you do is what real men or males do, because you are a male.
It's like whenever someone says "That's unamerican" or "that's unaustralian". Says who? I am an Australian Citizen. Whatever I do is what an "Australian" can do, because I am an Australian and my passport proves it. Teetotalism is "unaustralian"? Says who? You? Do you speak for all Australians? I wasn't aware that there was some sort of "Charter of Approved Australian Activities and Past-times" I had to read an sign.
Same thing with "being a man". That's up to you. There is no "grand charter of manly things manly men do".
Besides, mainstream depictions of what "men" do change with time. In ye olden days, men - rich, successful men - wore wigs. Powdered wigs. Back then that was manly. These days it is not.
Live your life the way you want to (without hurting others). Strive to be your own man.
It's like whenever someone says "That's unamerican" or "that's unaustralian". Says who? I am an Australian Citizen. Whatever I do is what an "Australian" can do, because I am an Australian and my passport proves it. Teetotalism is "unaustralian"? Says who? You? Do you speak for all Australians? I wasn't aware that there was some sort of "Charter of Approved Australian Activities and Past-times" I had to read an sign.
Same thing with "being a man". That's up to you. There is no "grand charter of manly things manly men do".
Besides, mainstream depictions of what "men" do change with time. In ye olden days, men - rich, successful men - wore wigs. Powdered wigs. Back then that was manly. These days it is not.
Live your life the way you want to (without hurting others). Strive to be your own man.
There's no such thing as a "real" man. Every man is a man, and every man is different. There's nothing less "real" or man-like about you than someone who doesn't care about their appearance.
The only thing that makes a man a 'real man' is their gender itself. Other than that, it's all just society pushing its preconceived BS on people who refuse to conform to the 'norm'.
Now I've got the sudden urge to go play Symphony of The Night.Loop Stricken said:
Basic hygiene is a good thing.
Beyond that, just do whatever.
Ancient Romans, Egyptians and Enlightenment Era Europeans shaved and wore makeup to prove how "civilized" they were, but other early ancient civilizations, and Medieval Europeans thought the size of a man's beard was a sign of manliness.
So, pretty much the debate has been going on since the beginning of recorded history, and fashions swing back and forth.
Feel free to honor the ancient tradition of wearing eyeliner, while I honor the ancient tradition of having facial hair.
Go team.
Beyond that, just do whatever.
Ancient Romans, Egyptians and Enlightenment Era Europeans shaved and wore makeup to prove how "civilized" they were, but other early ancient civilizations, and Medieval Europeans thought the size of a man's beard was a sign of manliness.
So, pretty much the debate has been going on since the beginning of recorded history, and fashions swing back and forth.
Feel free to honor the ancient tradition of wearing eyeliner, while I honor the ancient tradition of having facial hair.
Go team.
Men shouldn't shave? Uh... beards kind of get in the way of a lot of stuff. Like eating.
Make-up is too much for me. I don't care enough I guess?
Make-up is too much for me. I don't care enough I guess?
I agree on both counts.ForgottenPr0digy said:
Personally I don't groom myself too much. I wash my hair, shave when I get annoyed with the crappy stubble that refuses to grow into a proper beard and wear clothes that make me feel comfortable (a pair of jeans and a t-shirt). I use deodourant, and occasionally body spray if I'm going somewhere I might reasonably expect to be in very close proximity to girls (say if I'm dancing in a club or bar).
Personally, my idea of a real man is a man who doesn't give a fuck what others think about him. He does what he wants, dresses the way he wants and really couldn't care less what you think of that.
Now to take the semi-sarcastic jibe as non-sarcastic. What if they are baggy on you? I end up having to wear "skinny fit" to get a nice fit.''Daystar Clarion said:No man can comfortably wear skinny fitting jeans.
It's just not possible
Also, OP seems a bit judgmental with his post. It sounds like he's saying that men that have facial hair and do not wear makeup don't care about their looks. Guys with beards care. Why do you think they trim them and don't end up looking like a warlock?
A real man should first worry about being able to do everything he needs in his clothing, looking good should come after that.
Facial hair should be kept clean looking, even if its a beard keep it clean.
Facial hair should be kept clean looking, even if its a beard keep it clean.
I had this problem with my mother as well. When she started to realise her son wasn't like all the other boys out there, she started to bring up the subject and harass me about it. My Grandmother would see me and say how my jewelry was girly or my hair was too feminine and only girls shave their body.Hyena Slade said:
Everyone cares about their looks. Those tough jocks that wear letterman jackets and focus on muscles and women care about thier looks just as much as a transgendered male cares about how their hair looks.
I think a 'real' man is someone that cares about what is on the inside of someone else, and desires to look however they want without fear of what the cold public eye thinks of them.
My advice would be to ignore your mothers close-minded and old way of thinking and just be you.
'Real man' talk is just sexist shaming language used to reinforce traditionalist social roles. No one who uses such slurs is worth listening to.
Do you identify as male, OP? If so, then congratulations, you're a real man.
Do you identify as male, OP? If so, then congratulations, you're a real man.