Poll: The X-Bone

[Drops a Sweet Katana]

I wasn't going to get it the first place. The best the presentation could have done was put me on the fence... which it didn't. I was waiting to see if the new exclusives would be worth it, considering I don't give half a damn about any post-Bungie Halo games and simply don't care about any of the other exclusives. But they weren't, in that they didn't reveal anything other than the next CoD. IF I do get a console it will be the PS4. If the games Sony shows off are interesting then I'll probably end up getting it. If not, I'll stick with my PC.

 

[Saltyk]

I won't lie, I likely wasn't going to get a XBone. I generally like Sony's exclusives better.

However, I wasn't saying anything negative about the idea of the XBox720. Nope, I don't even hate the 360. I have plenty of friends with them and they enjoy them. Hell, I've had some fun with them. And the PS3 is far from perfect. But now... No. This new XBone is utter garbage. At least there was some positives after the PS4 announcement, but this one was so bad that Sony stock went up 10%. And things only seem to get worse the more I hear.

Now, they could fix it...

But the problem is not an easy one to fix, without delaying the console, by a fair degree. They NEED the used game fee because the games are downloaded onto the hard-drive. But why? This makes no sense. Did people not hate the fact that PS3 did that (though not completely)? Because I'm pretty sure most people were vocal in hating that. It's not that the used game fee is a solution in search of a problem. It's that it's a stupid solution for a problem that they created!

Don't get me wrong, I would still hate the fee even if the games didn't download onto the console's (limited) hard-drive. It's still annoying and stupid. It would still destroy the entire concept of lending your friend your games, or renting a game, or even having more than one account on the same XBone. It's still a terrible idea that even EA had the brains to put an end to.

Though, that's not to discount the other myriad of problems.
~Online requirement
~Not Reverse Compatible (nor is the PS4, but this is just another nail in the coffin)
~Outright contempt for Indie Developers
~Stupid fucking name

As it stands, I know next to no one supporting this thing. The only exceptions being fanboys or people unlikely to buy it in the first place.

Oh, and I heard that the applause during the conference were fake. If that doesn't leave a bad taste in your mouth, I don't know what will.

And for a fun game, watch Angry Joe's reaction to the PS4 and then watch his reaction to the XBone. It's like night and day.

 

[Ambitiousmould]

Was on the fence, only because I didn't know what it would offer, decided not to get it within 15 minutes of the presentation. I could go into why, but everything has been said, said and said again by now.

 

[Signa]

I spent $400 on a PS3 5 years ago and it plays Borderlands 2 without having to lower any settings. Not sure why you think your laptop is in any way a good option... In other words, badgersprite is right.

There's a pretty big difference between a laptop and a PS3. I bought my laptop expecting it to be a portable computer, with the added function of playing games that were made before it. A PS3 is bought with the expectation that it's a dedicated gaming machine, and you will be playing games that were made after it. The laptop can change settings as needed, a PS3 can't. A laptop is portable, a PS3 that needs its TV isn't. When both look about the same graphically, but the laptop does more, you're getting what you paid for.

If Badgersprite is so right, then he'd at least be able to play BL2 on low on his $800 laptop. Otherwise he got ripped off. The quality of the graphics isn't the point anyway; it's the cost and functionality of the device.

No, the point is, he ask for unwarranted suggestions. The point is he wants a cheaper solution that is a dedicated gaming platform.

If he wants a dedicated console to play games and a laptop for other things that's well within his rights - since that's what he was looking for in the first place.

And so he is right in his his assertion that a console is cheaper than a PC. He is also right that he has the right to purchase whatever he wants without fanboy reprisals.

Honestly, the level of elitism on this site is appalling.

I don't know what conversation you read, but he said he bought a laptop for $800 and said he couldn't game on it. We told him he got ripped off. We're not being elite or stuck up, you are by attacking us.

EDIT: Edited the quote to reflect what was PMed to me and what I responded to. Nice job editing the original post.

 

[Signa]

Poin

I spent $400 on a PS3 5 years ago and it plays Borderlands 2 without having to lower any settings. Not sure why you think your laptop is in any way a good option... In other words, badgersprite is right.

There's a pretty big difference between a laptop and a PS3. I bought my laptop expecting it to be a portable computer, with the added function of playing games that were made before it. A PS3 is bought with the expectation that it's a dedicated gaming machine, and you will be playing games that were made after it. The laptop can change settings as needed, a PS3 can't. A laptop is portable, a PS3 that needs its TV isn't. When both look about the same graphically, but the laptop does more, you're getting what you paid for.

If Badgersprite is so right, then he'd at least be able to play BL2 on low on his $800 laptop. Otherwise he got ripped off. The quality of the graphics isn't the point anyway; it's the cost and functionality of the device.

No, the point is, he ask for unwarranted suggestions. The point is he wants a cheaper solution that is a dedicated gaming platform.

If he wants a dedicated console to play games and a laptop for other things that's well within his rights - since that's what he was looking for in the first place.

And so he is right in his his assertion that a console is cheaper than a PC. He is also right that he has the right to purchase whatever he wants without fanboy reprisals.

Honestly, the level of elitism on this site is appalling.

I don't know what conversation you read, but he said he bought a laptop for $800 and said he couldn't game on it. We told him he got ripped off. We're not being elite or stuck up, you are by attacking us.

Actually, go back to page 1 - I'll wait.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/9.409285.17118745

Which was then met with this:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/9.409285.17118816

Followed up by:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/9.409285.17118918

Then the first mention of laptop prices here:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/9.409285.17118974

Then you enter the fray, compounding the issue.

So it actually took several snarky and unwarranted responses to get to where you claim the conversation starts.
It's a symptom of much greater problem in the Escapist though, which I hope disappears soon.

Point me to the post where I was defending Morphingdragon's comment. Go on, I'll wait.

..

That's right, I didn't "compound" anything until this was said
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.409285-Poll-The-X-Bone?page=2#17119376

Where I responded to the one line about the price and the lack of functionality. Yes, you caught me, I'm the downfall of and everything that is wrong with this site.

 

[Requia]

The fuckup of a presentation doesn't really hurt (now that I know the kinect will work at close range, they weren't very clear on that), they could still so something really neat like say, making modding possible. But the stuff *outside* the presentation was a hell no, half the reason I went console last gen was acess to the used games market, without that well, I still hate Windows (the other half) but if I change my mind and don't get a PC Sony and Nintendo will still be there.

 

[pearcinator]

Still on the fence til E3 then I will decide when I see some more games

 

[Nimzabaat]

Hey, I'm holding off on a definite opinion until E3. I think everyone else should, too. Until we see the exclusives, there's no call for jumping the gun.

You! Take your rational thoughts and leave the internets! There is no place for your kind here!

Or in other words, I agree. Personally, I was going to try to get through my un-played games library before deciding anything one way or the other. By that time all the info will be out and the price will probably be somewhat more bearable for whatever I want to purchase.

 

[TallanKhan]

I won't be purchasing an Xbone as when it comes to gaming I'm looking for an actual console, not some tv streaming, social media orientated spy box which just happens to play games, and even then only if you have an internet connection and brought the game new. After all, the dirty peasants who can't afford new games just aren't welcome at this party...

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

I have crappy internet, this precludes me from even considering it.

 

[-Dragmire-]

Wasn't really interested to begin with and I'm partial to playstation myself but until I see something truly irresistible for it, I'll stick to PC.

 

[xshadowscreamx]

im waiting till E3, im sure microsoft is saving the best for last. still i will be waiting for a price drop eventually. and im curious if there will be another RROD episode again... i still have plenty of games to play on 360/ps3. so no Russian.

 

[lSHaDoW-FoXl]

Upon watching the PS4 reveal I was completely underwhelmed. The only news that really interested me was that it was supposedly easy for developers to work with and that it allowed self publishing. I thought to my self, 'Well, unless they do something that my computer can't do, I'm not getting one.'

XBONE decided to take it a step father. From this abomination; I almost hate Microsoft completely. If this is the trash they're doing with their consoles then I can only imagine what terrible plans they have for the next windows. Honestly, unless PS4 does something good I might either switch to apple (from fears of MS BS) or be off consoles and computers.

 

[Rylee Fox]

Seeing as I didn't get my current console, an Xbox 360, until the price went down to $300, there's no flippin' way a $300 PC, a laptop especially, would ever perform as well as a game-centered console (which the Xbone, unfortunately, isn't). Yes, computers can easily outperform a console, but not in the same price range. And as a husband and father with a severely limited entertainment budget, a console is the best way to go aside from a few older games that will run on my under-powered $400 2-year-old desktop.

I find this post interesting. My laptop cost me around $340 or so. It can run everything I've put on it so far, doesn't matter what it is. I may not be able to run them on super high graphics, but every game I own runs very well on my cheap laptop. If you want to know what those games are http://steamcommunity.com/id/FoxPrower/games?tab=all take a look.

Don't need the consoles if my laptop can run the pc version of those games.

 

[MSTJedi]

Seeing as I didn't get my current console, an Xbox 360, until the price went down to $300, there's no flippin' way a $300 PC, a laptop especially, would ever perform as well as a game-centered console (which the Xbone, unfortunately, isn't). Yes, computers can easily outperform a console, but not in the same price range. And as a husband and father with a severely limited entertainment budget, a console is the best way to go aside from a few older games that will run on my under-powered $400 2-year-old desktop.

I find this post interesting. My laptop cost me around $340 or so. It can run everything I've put on it so far, doesn't matter what it is. I may not be able to run them on super high graphics, but every game I own runs very well on my cheap laptop. If you want to know what those games are http://steamcommunity.com/id/FoxPrower/games?tab=all take a look.

Don't need the consoles if my laptop can run the pc version of those games.

It's a matter of longevity, mostly. After a video card upgrade, my PC can now run somewhat recent games at 720p on medium settings for the most part (e.g., Saints Row 3, SWTOR, Bioshock 2), but in a couple of years, it won't be able to run the newest games as well because they're constantly bumping up quality and processing requirements. With a console, you know that for as long as they develop games for it, those games will run on that machine because they were made for that particular setup. Sure, it may not be able to match the quality of the same game running on a high-end PC, but you get what you pay for. With my budget, I'll trade the convenience of not having to constantly upgrade for a little less pretty.

 

[Rylee Fox]

It's a matter of longevity, mostly. After a video card upgrade, my PC can now run somewhat recent games at 720p on medium settings for the most part (e.g., Saints Row 3, SWTOR, Bioshock 2), but in a couple of years, it won't be able to run the newest games as well because they're constantly bumping up quality and processing requirements. With a console, you know that for as long as they develop games for it, those games will run on that machine because they were made for that particular setup. Sure, it may not be able to match the quality of the same game running on a high-end PC, but you get what you pay for. With my budget, I'll trade the convenience of not having to constantly upgrade for a little less pretty.

My first laptop lasted me for 6 years before I found games it could not run. That's about the average span of a console anyway. For less than the price of most consoles nowdays I got my current one and can run everything as I said in my previous post.

I didn't choose to go into pc gaming, but I'm glad it happened. I can do so much more while paying so much less.

 

[stabnex]

I already own a PC, I don't need a pervert in my living room disguised as a console when I know it's plotting to rape my computer at night while I sleep after long days of not playing it, ever.

 

[Ramro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLLYyxY9LdE

This is basically my entire opinion on the One.