Poll: Thoughts on MMA

[bjj hero]

Any particular style of Karate or just basic Karate?.

Shoto kai, although my instructor is quite open to "what works". I tend to help out with take down defence, defending throws, singles, double legs, how to get a fight back standing etc.

Its not enough if you get dragged down by someone who grapples but against some smack rat who is trying take your phone it could help.

 

[Sovvolf]

Any particular style of Karate or just basic Karate?.

Shoto kai, although my instructor is quite open to "what works". I tend to help out with take down defence, defending throws, singles, double legs, how to get a fight back standing etc.

Its not enough if you get dragged down by someone who grapples but against some smack rat who is trying take your phone it could help.

I see, so because (I assume with your alias) your main focus is BJJ you help to teach grappling grappling at you Karate sessions?.

Anyway, not to get a little too personal, do you live in the Sheffield area?. The reason I ask is that I knew a fellow who I used to roll with at my BBJ classes who was also big on Karate. His style (coincidentally enough) was either Shotokai or Shukokai. Mostly a full contact style if memory serves me correct.

I'm a Kyukushin fellow my self though, though Karate isn't my main focus and is the martial art I have the least experience in (Only a year). With the exception of Taekwondo to which I don't really count as I never trained it at a gym and only learned from my cousins girlfriend.

 

[Shockolate]

While I'm sure atleast one of you will rip me on this, I've been a fan since the slugfest that was Stephan Bonnar vs Forrest Griffin.

Since then, I've been an MMA enthusiast. Every UFC, Strikeforce, Bellator, Dream.... I love the sport.

I think the ground game can b e just as exciting. Sweeps and sub attemps and counters and each fighter looking for the smallest mistake.. Human chess. Yes, it can be boring when poeople are just laying there, but thats why the ref stands them up. I really dislike the "meathead factor" where people just wanna see some motherfuckers get knocked out. Go watch kickboxing. Sure, everyone loves to see a knockout, but submissions are just as entertaining.

Thing is, when chess is boring, it's REALLY boring. It's slow, methodical, thought out, but when nothing happens, it's a little frustrating. Especially stalemates. I'm all for a good ground war, but when there's no closure, I feel like I just wasted 15 mins of my life. Case and point, Tyson Griffin vs Evan Dunham at UFC 115. First and second rounds were great. Third round? Not so much. 3 minutes of Dunham hanging onto his back like a leach. It's like when you have a King in check on open ground. What does he do? Move to the side. You check him again? He moves back to the other side. I'd call it lay and pray (and I hate using that term) but they were standing up. Ruined the fight for me, really.

 

[bjj hero]

Any particular style of Karate or just basic Karate?.

Shoto kai, although my instructor is quite open to "what works". I tend to help out with take down defence, defending throws, singles, double legs, how to get a fight back standing etc.

Its not enough if you get dragged down by someone who grapples but against some smack rat who is trying take your phone it could help.

I see, so because (I assume with your alias) your main focus is BJJ you help to teach grappling grappling at you Karate sessions?.

Anyway, not to get a little too personal, do you live in the Sheffield area?. The reason I ask is that I knew a fellow who I used to roll with at my BBJ classes who was also big on Karate. His style (coincidentally enough) was either Shotokai or Shukokai. Mostly a full contact style if memory serves me correct.

I'm a Kyukushin fellow my self though, though Karate isn't my main focus and is the martial art I have the least experience in (Only a year). With the exception of Taekwondo to which I don't really count as I never trained it at a gym and only learned from my cousins girlfriend.

Nope, I'm in stoke. Ive been with my current karate instructor for almost 10 years and it sounds similar to your friend. I love Kyukushin, its quite hardcore. I believe if you are training stand up and not getting hit you are missing a big part of the puzzle. Too many classes shy away from contact.

Grappling is my newest toy, I did almost 1 and a half years nogi then moved to BJJ where I've done about the same. Do you compete?

 

[Sovvolf]

Nope, I'm in stoke. Ive been with my current karate instructor for almost 10 years and it sounds similar to your friend.

Bah must have just been a pure coincidence. Just sounded a little familiar. My mistake.

I love Kyukushin, its quite hardcore. I believe if you are training stand up and not getting hit you are missing a big part of the puzzle. Too many classes shy away from contact.

Full contact can certainly condition your body. Also I think full contact sparring is a necessity, doesn't matter how perfect you can throw that kick in the Kata... That all changes when you have some one trying to kick your head off.

Grappling is my newest toy, I did almost 1 and a half years nogi then moved to BJJ where I've done about the same.

My mistake, I thought with your alias it would have been the other way around.

Do you compete?

A little. I've had nothing official though. Few cross club sparring* fight's (if we count victories earned in cross class sparring then I'm at 3-0-0)... other than that... not really. I wanted to compete but college and lack of funds has had me training it more as a hobby than as a full time sport. Hoping that once I finish my studies and get a job, I'll be able to afford to go back to training the sport more seriously.

*Basically when people from different gyms get together and spar with each other. There's an official name for this, though it's been so long since I had a CCS that it's slipped my mind.

 

[Caradinist]

Yes, i am an MMA fan. I became interested in it when i stared watching the first Ultimate Fighter season.

And no, whenever you see any ground game, you don't have to turn off the TV because "EWWW, I DONT WANT TO CATCH THE GAY". If you honestly do this, you may be even more insecure about your sexuality than ever before.

There is a lot more going on in ground game than you might know. Yes, it's boring if the ENTIRE match is just two people on the floor, but when it isn't, consider this: attempted submissions, constant punching, kneeing, kicking, all wear out the fighters, how much it wears them out varies on each person and training.

The more they are tired out, the more susceptible they are to anything being thrown at them. Which means those oh so lovely knockouts of the night you are expecting. It's not always this way, because this isn't exactly a computer game, nor is it just fake entertainment wrestling, where it's wrestlers trying to make everything LOOK good, yet they have already decided beforehand how it will end.

I think the ground game can b e just as exciting. Sweeps and sub attemps and counters and each fighter looking for the smallest mistake.. Human chess. Yes, it can be boring when poeople are just laying there, but thats why the ref stands them up. I really dislike the "meathead factor" where people just wanna see some motherfuckers get knocked out. Go watch kickboxing. Sure, everyone loves to see a knockout, but submissions are just as entertaining.

Yeah! Human chess is about the best way to put it.

That was the point i was trying to make, but at the same time attempting to convince these same "meatheads" on the thread that ground game isn't just some excuse for people to hug each other.

 

[crazyfills]

He just keeps punching the everliving shit out of someone that's clearly unconscious on his feet while the ref takes his sweet time stepping in.
It's not a sport. It's a street fight in an octangular cage.

Ok first off im quite sure you can't be unconcious and standing however the out on his feet type effect you see if the effect of the brain traveling inside the fighters head and hitting off his skull that will unbalence the fighter and probalby do fair amount of damage to the brain beause after all some hits in the ufc are above 250HICs (the baseline rate for a concusion) however if the fighter should sustain sutch a blow he should fall to the ground in the event this happens the referee will imediately step in the way of the fighter to protect him then he will call a stop to the fight instantly.

Secondly MMA is most definately a sport just look on theire wiki page we are a sport it says we are a sport right theire in black and white and no words in the world can possably change that.And finally MMA is definately not a streat fight we need gloves,mouth gaurds as well as groin gaurds and things sutch as fish hooking groin shots and rabbit punching are all banned as well as many outher things.