Poll: "Torture Porn" films.
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Actually, unless I'm mistaken there's no rape in the Saw movies, or in Hostel for that matter.NoMoreSanity said:
Haha, and here I was taking your title at face value. Whoopsie.
I dunno, they all just seem really generic when blood and gore are the main selling points. Sure, sometime some new movie will come up with new and exciting ways to show us, the audience, that blood and gore, but at the end of the day, you've still just got a screen full of dead people and a hole the size of $8 in your pocket.
I dunno, they all just seem really generic when blood and gore are the main selling points. Sure, sometime some new movie will come up with new and exciting ways to show us, the audience, that blood and gore, but at the end of the day, you've still just got a screen full of dead people and a hole the size of $8 in your pocket.
I enjoy the Saw movies. They're good horror flicks, especially when compared to remade Japanese movies.
They also have a good psychological twist to them, and a set of twisted morals. In the end, they're the most interesting horror films I've seen recently.
I don't know about Hostel though: I haven't seen it.
They also have a good psychological twist to them, and a set of twisted morals. In the end, they're the most interesting horror films I've seen recently.
I don't know about Hostel though: I haven't seen it.
I never understood how Hostel did even ok in the cinemas.The infamous SCAMola said:
It was just a gore fest, a reason for people to see toned down torture.
there's rape in the Saw and Hostel series? cause i've never seen rape in any of those moviesNoMoreSanity said:
but please feel free to actually point out where any rape occurs in them
i guess its just letting people see "forbidden" experiences in life, people like to see how far its possible for a person to go when causing stuff pain. On a dise note i enjoy watching these films immensely, especially making people jump who are also watching said film 
"I don't really like them."
I watched the first Saw and thought it was good and interesting. Reminded me of Seven.
But then I watched some sequel (don't remember which one and I can't be bothered to check) and then I stopped caring.
The sequel was nothing new anymore, the concept was exactly the same as Saw. And the concept by itself isn't that great.
Never saw Hostel.
I watched the first Saw and thought it was good and interesting. Reminded me of Seven.
But then I watched some sequel (don't remember which one and I can't be bothered to check) and then I stopped caring.
The sequel was nothing new anymore, the concept was exactly the same as Saw. And the concept by itself isn't that great.
Never saw Hostel.
I haven't seen any and don't really want to. However, somehow, the idea of 'torture porn' is pretty appealing to me. I don't mean that I get off on it, because I don't. However, in terms of creativity, i.e. for me, ideas for short stories and short films, have been boosted by a certain level of sadism. I wrote a script a while back for a short film that isn't quite like Saw or Hostel, more like 'I Know What You Did Last Summer', and so on. However, to summarise, one character dies in a car crash, one hangs himself, one stabs her boyfriend then is stabbed herself straight through the skull, and the last two have their hearts cut out while still alive. In addition I've thought up ideas since then for my creative works based around torture and sadism, and this all ties in with the idea of 'torture porn'. So no, I don't watch it myself. But I do think it's a pretty interesting premise, if only for the ways in which you can explore the human mind through film and writing (as it happens I believe everyone has a level of darkness at least in their subconcious, and sadism is one of those levels...).
Meh, Saw and Hostel don't fit in the same category, I suppose. I'm not going to talk about the first Saw film since it's been made by completely different people, it's great, very thrilling and there's hardly any gore anyways.
The sequels featured at least some tension, since (for a mainstream film) it was rather unpredictable whether the victim was going to survive or not. That made most of them worthwhile. The second one was even as good as to be bought by me (used, heh). The third I watched in the cinema, the fourth I rented. The fifth has become better, featured some more story and less blood, which was a good choice (thank lord there's another director now).
Hostel just makes me ask one question: "What the fuck kinda movies have you seen if you think this one was brutal/gory/terrifying etc.?" It was just bland, shallow, the first half was absolutely pointless, the only good part (conversation with that torturer guy) should have been the whole movie.
It wasn't gory either, you get some limbs and eyes cut-off, that's about it. I don't want to sound like a hardcore manly man who has seen far worse than you and wants you to look like a creeped out child, but really - it seemed to me this film was only marketed extremely well (slap the name Tarantino on it, tell the people its the most terrifying thing they'd ever going to see and that's about it).
But anyways, if you want to see the real hardcore, don't go into cinema - you'd have to check out your local video store. I could mention some extremely sick shit, but that would be like advertising, so I won't.
Edit: If you want to see the real REAL hardcore, check out good ol' literature. In books, you can cross lines that movies are far away from yet. Drawback: you need to use your imagination :/ I can recommend Kafka's "In the Penal Settlement". No film I had seen could match this torturing yet (maybe because the movie would have to be 12 hours long but oh well).
Yet another Edit: I'm actually no fan of torturing films. Haven't seen Hostel 2 either, the first one was enough.
The sequels featured at least some tension, since (for a mainstream film) it was rather unpredictable whether the victim was going to survive or not. That made most of them worthwhile. The second one was even as good as to be bought by me (used, heh). The third I watched in the cinema, the fourth I rented. The fifth has become better, featured some more story and less blood, which was a good choice (thank lord there's another director now).
Hostel just makes me ask one question: "What the fuck kinda movies have you seen if you think this one was brutal/gory/terrifying etc.?" It was just bland, shallow, the first half was absolutely pointless, the only good part (conversation with that torturer guy) should have been the whole movie.
It wasn't gory either, you get some limbs and eyes cut-off, that's about it. I don't want to sound like a hardcore manly man who has seen far worse than you and wants you to look like a creeped out child, but really - it seemed to me this film was only marketed extremely well (slap the name Tarantino on it, tell the people its the most terrifying thing they'd ever going to see and that's about it).
But anyways, if you want to see the real hardcore, don't go into cinema - you'd have to check out your local video store. I could mention some extremely sick shit, but that would be like advertising, so I won't.
Edit: If you want to see the real REAL hardcore, check out good ol' literature. In books, you can cross lines that movies are far away from yet. Drawback: you need to use your imagination :/ I can recommend Kafka's "In the Penal Settlement". No film I had seen could match this torturing yet (maybe because the movie would have to be 12 hours long but oh well).
Yet another Edit: I'm actually no fan of torturing films. Haven't seen Hostel 2 either, the first one was enough.
I dare to say they would have made one if someone actually had bought that steaming pile of crap. :> I mean come on - it was just so stupid it couldn't terrify me, and I'm actually a pretty compelling person.Jumping_Over_Fences said:
I think they're awful, there isn't even a plot now. It's just going to watch people die the most horrible deaths possible.
At least when I watch gangster movies and player shooters there's some kind of pretext to why hundreds of people are about to die...
...yay hypocrisy.
At least when I watch gangster movies and player shooters there's some kind of pretext to why hundreds of people are about to die...
...yay hypocrisy.
I love torture porn films. However, Saw isn't even close to being a torture porn film (and is also a pile of garbage). Hostel comes much closer to the torture porn feeling because Eli Roth has always been a fan of the genre and got away with as much as he could (with Tarantino's help).
They dont have any story and they are boring . And how did thath old fart with cancer from the SAW series build all those machines ?