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tthor

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ReservoirAngel said:
Aliens are real and people who deny it are either idiotic tossers or just very arrogant tossers.
but do you believe aliens have made contact with us at some point?
 

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tthor said:
ReservoirAngel said:
Aliens are real and people who deny it are either idiotic tossers or just very arrogant tossers.
but do you believe aliens have made contact with us at some point?
Not 'contact' as most people think of it. Ya know, the whole "beaming down with the 'we come in peace' shit". I believe if aliens are capable of the technology to get here easily, they have observed us and deduced that we, as we currently stand as a global species/society, are not yet able to fully comprehend and deal with overt extra-terrestrial contact, so their 'contact' is just letting us know, in subtle ways, that they exist. just to let us know they are there, but letting us get used to the idea...a process many people seem to want to get in the way of.

I think once we get to the point as a society that we're not going to freak out massively if aliens are revealed to each and every one of us, with no possible ambiguity, then extraterrestrials will finally make themselves properly known.
 

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Well of course UFOs exist. If there is something suspended in the sky and you don't know what it is, it is an Unidentified Flying Object by definition. Although I highly doubt extraterrestrial spacecrafts have made it to earth. The odds are just too improbable.
You got hilariously ninja'd. xD

And yeah, of course, no aliens have entered out atmosphere. We'd know about it if they had.
 

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I think extra terrestrials (aka aliens) do exist, probability alone says that with all the star systems out there the chance of there not being life outside of earth is astronomical. I also think its possible that they could have visited earth or will visit earth in the future. That said, while I think its possible I also think its highly improbable because of the massive amount of resources that would be needed for interstellar travel.

I think people are far to quick to jump to the conclusion of aliens when they see a UFO. UFO's are simply unidentified aircraft. Before the first stealth bomber came into service there were UFO reports matching its description. I think its far more likely that what people are seeing most of the time are new aircraft types that have not come into service. Now obviously that doesnt account for all UFO sightings. A lot of those I just have to consider them unexplained due to lack of evidence.
 

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ReservoirAngel said:
Aliens are real and people who deny it are either idiotic tossers or just very arrogant tossers.
As in you believe there has to be life in the universe elsewhere or alien have visited Earth? Either way you can't really say that logically. If something has visited Earth there's no conclusive proof of it.

As for stuff in the universe, there isn't necessarily anything even remotely like us anywhere. The chance it will be humanoid, walk on two feet, have eyes or even view stuff through our visible light spectrum on any other, be carbon based, meet our current definition of life or intelligence, exist in only 3 dimension, etc are astronomically small. There are an infinite amount of possibilities for it to differ from us to the point we will probably never be able to make contact with anything any time soon.
 

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If America has been hiding that they know that aliens have visited Earth, we should know in a month or so since the Wikileaks site is still up.
 

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I believe ALiens exist somewhere in the Universe, but that they have not visited Earth. There is no good evidence for UFOs. A WHOLE LOAD of poor quality evidence, but no very good evidence.
 

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Yeahh...I've seen UFOs...No really!

Back in 1999, there was a good 8 of them in the skies at night, for a good 20mins. Couldn't make out what they were, but they were definitely nothing I've seen flown by man.

And I live in Las Vegas, just a couple of miles off where Area 51 is suppose to be.

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Bon_Clay said:
ReservoirAngel said:
Aliens are real and people who deny it are either idiotic tossers or just very arrogant tossers.
As in you believe there has to be life in the universe elsewhere or alien have visited Earth? Either way you can't really say that logically. If something has visited Earth there's no conclusive proof of it.

As for stuff in the universe, there isn't necessarily anything even remotely like us anywhere. The chance it will be humanoid, walk on two feet, have eyes or even view stuff through our visible light spectrum on any other, be carbon based, meet our current definition of life or intelligence, exist in only 3 dimension, etc are astronomically small. There are an infinite amount of possibilities for it to differ from us to the point we will probably never be able to make contact with anything any time soon.
Since when do aliens need to be humanoid, or fit "our" definition of life? People saying that is just another way of making themselves fit the "arrogant tosser" category of alien-life denial.

Allow me to propose it to you this way: in a universe where there are more stars in a galaxy than grains of sand in the Sahara desert (of which ALL could support a solar system), and with more galaxies in the Universe than grains of sand in the Sahara desert, it's just ignorant or self-absorbed to assume that OUR particular floating clump of dirt is the ONLY planet capable of supporting life on any kind.

Just because the aforementioned extraterrestrial life forms might not resemble us on even the most basic level, doesn't mean they shouldn't be classed as life. It's also possible, given that WE'VE only been around in our current state as a species for, technically speaking, no time at all, who's to say that another planet didn't develop life much earlier than us? And who's to say these life forms didn't develop along the same timeline as us, improving to the point of intergalactic travel? And that they're as curious about other life in the universe as we are, so they use their technology to spread out and look for it? It's possible (however unlikely) that they would manage to find us. Stupid little apes that we are, still with most of our population denying their existence even after videos of their ships in the sky, and even one of them fucking crashing 40-odd years ago.

My point is, however unlikely it may be, it's stupid, ignorant and arrogant for us to say that it's impossible. I'm not saying everyone's got to think it's true...but to deny it outright just gets on my nerve.
 

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Yes I believe that there is more than one planet in the universe that has life.

I don't believe that they are freaky looking, horror film style either, I think they look similar if not just like we do.

And I don't believe our government has made contact because if we had I'm sure we'd have some intergalactic war on our hands because we'd be trying to impose ourselves into their world
 

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Nomanslander said:
Yeahh...I've seen UFOs...No really!

And I live in Las Vegas, just a couple of miles off where Area 52 is suppose to be.

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are you honestly claiming to have seen UFOs, or are you poking fun at things?
 

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KefkaCultist said:
Yes I believe that there is more than one planet in the universe that has life.

I don't believe that they are freaky looking, horror film style either, I think they look similar if not just like we do.

And I don't believe our government has made contact because if we had I'm sure we'd have some intergalactic war on our hands because we'd be trying to impose ourselves into their world
no offense, but why would you believe that they look a lot like us? if anything, i don't think films make aliens freaky enough! hell, i wouldn't even be surprised if aliens weren't bisemetrical,
 

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ReservoirAngel said:
Bon_Clay said:
ReservoirAngel said:
Aliens are real and people who deny it are either idiotic tossers or just very arrogant tossers.
As in you believe there has to be life in the universe elsewhere or alien have visited Earth? Either way you can't really say that logically. If something has visited Earth there's no conclusive proof of it.

As for stuff in the universe, there isn't necessarily anything even remotely like us anywhere. The chance it will be humanoid, walk on two feet, have eyes or even view stuff through our visible light spectrum on any other, be carbon based, meet our current definition of life or intelligence, exist in only 3 dimension, etc are astronomically small. There are an infinite amount of possibilities for it to differ from us to the point we will probably never be able to make contact with anything any time soon.
Since when do aliens need to be humanoid, or fit "our" definition of life? People saying that is just another way of making themselves fit the "arrogant tosser" category of alien-life denial.

Allow me to propose it to you this way: in a universe where there are more stars in a galaxy than grains of sand in the Sahara desert (of which ALL could support a solar system), and with more galaxies in the Universe than grains of sand in the Sahara desert, it's just ignorant or self-absorbed to assume that OUR particular floating clump of dirt is the ONLY planet capable of supporting life on any kind.

Just because the aforementioned extraterrestrial life forms might not resemble us on even the most basic level, doesn't mean they shouldn't be classed as life. It's also possible, given that WE'VE only been around in our current state as a species for, technically speaking, no time at all, who's to say that another planet didn't develop life much earlier than us? And who's to say these life forms didn't develop along the same timeline as us, improving to the point of intergalactic travel? And that they're as curious about other life in the universe as we are, so they use their technology to spread out and look for it? It's possible (however unlikely) that they would manage to find us. Stupid little apes that we are, still with most of our population denying their existence even after videos of their ships in the sky, and even one of them fucking crashing 40-odd years ago.

My point is, however unlikely it may be, it's stupid, ignorant and arrogant for us to say that it's impossible. I'm not saying everyone's got to think it's true...but to deny it outright just gets on my nerve.
Actually no what you're saying comes off far more arrogant. You said if you don't believe in aliens you are stupid, when you don't have proof. I never said it was impossible, withholding judgment either way before we know for sure isn't stupid.

I never said they need to be humanoid or fit our definition of life to be important, but those are the kinds people have said to see. All I was saying with that paragraph is that even if there is some other type of life-like things out there, and on top of that get close to Earth, we might not be able to communicate with, see or comprehend it.
 

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tthor said:
Nomanslander said:
Yeahh...I've seen UFOs...No really!

And I live in Las Vegas, just a couple of miles off where Area 52 is suppose to be.

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are you honestly claiming to have seen UFOs, or are you poking fun at things?
Nope, not making this up.

But it is one of those things you have to see it to believe it, so I won't be asking anyone to believe me here.

I mean I've met people that have told me they've seen ghosts. I remember when I was in the military there was a girl that claimed there was a dead marine haunting her barracks room, and she always saw him in the mirror when she entered her room.

But, once again, it's one of those things that you have to see it to believe it, and I never did believe her story....=/
 

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Bon_Clay said:
ReservoirAngel said:
Bon_Clay said:
ReservoirAngel said:
Aliens are real and people who deny it are either idiotic tossers or just very arrogant tossers.
As in you believe there has to be life in the universe elsewhere or alien have visited Earth? Either way you can't really say that logically. If something has visited Earth there's no conclusive proof of it.

As for stuff in the universe, there isn't necessarily anything even remotely like us anywhere. The chance it will be humanoid, walk on two feet, have eyes or even view stuff through our visible light spectrum on any other, be carbon based, meet our current definition of life or intelligence, exist in only 3 dimension, etc are astronomically small. There are an infinite amount of possibilities for it to differ from us to the point we will probably never be able to make contact with anything any time soon.
Since when do aliens need to be humanoid, or fit "our" definition of life? People saying that is just another way of making themselves fit the "arrogant tosser" category of alien-life denial.

Allow me to propose it to you this way: in a universe where there are more stars in a galaxy than grains of sand in the Sahara desert (of which ALL could support a solar system), and with more galaxies in the Universe than grains of sand in the Sahara desert, it's just ignorant or self-absorbed to assume that OUR particular floating clump of dirt is the ONLY planet capable of supporting life on any kind.

Just because the aforementioned extraterrestrial life forms might not resemble us on even the most basic level, doesn't mean they shouldn't be classed as life. It's also possible, given that WE'VE only been around in our current state as a species for, technically speaking, no time at all, who's to say that another planet didn't develop life much earlier than us? And who's to say these life forms didn't develop along the same timeline as us, improving to the point of intergalactic travel? And that they're as curious about other life in the universe as we are, so they use their technology to spread out and look for it? It's possible (however unlikely) that they would manage to find us. Stupid little apes that we are, still with most of our population denying their existence even after videos of their ships in the sky, and even one of them fucking crashing 40-odd years ago.

My point is, however unlikely it may be, it's stupid, ignorant and arrogant for us to say that it's impossible. I'm not saying everyone's got to think it's true...but to deny it outright just gets on my nerve.
Actually no what you're saying comes off far more arrogant. You said if you don't believe in aliens you are stupid, when you don't have proof. I never said it was impossible, withholding judgment either way before we know for sure isn't stupid.

I never said they need to be humanoid or fit our definition of life to be important, but those are the kinds people have said to see. All I was saying with that paragraph is that even if there is some other type of life-like things out there, and on top of that get close to Earth, we might not be able to communicate with, see or comprehend it.
Okay then that's my bad for misreading what you said and going off on a huge massive rant at you. Sorry for that.
 

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Nomanslander said:
tthor said:
Nomanslander said:
Yeahh...I've seen UFOs...No really!

And I live in Las Vegas, just a couple of miles off where Area 52 is suppose to be.

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are you honestly claiming to have seen UFOs, or are you poking fun at things?
Nope, not making this up.

But it is one of those things you have to see it to believe it, so I won't be asking anyone to believe me here.

I mean I've met people that have told me they've seen ghosts. I remember when I was in the military there was a girl that claimed there was a dead marine haunting her barracks room, and she always saw him in the mirror when she entered her room.

But, once again, it's one of those things that you have to see it to believe it, and I never did believe her story....=/
what did you see?

Edit: i personally have seen some stuff that you'd have to see to believe, so i can kinda relate (tho thats a whole other story)
 

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tthor said:
KefkaCultist said:
Yes I believe that there is more than one planet in the universe that has life.

I don't believe that they are freaky looking, horror film style either, I think they look similar if not just like we do.

And I don't believe our government has made contact because if we had I'm sure we'd have some intergalactic war on our hands because we'd be trying to impose ourselves into their world
no offense, but why would you believe that they look a lot like us? if anything, i don't think films make aliens freaky enough! hell, i wouldn't even be surprised if aliens weren't bisemetrical,
No offense taken, I see no reason why we've portrayed them in our culture as outlandish beings, sure if they do exist they may be grotesque or freakish but there is a possibility that they look similar. An American and Chinese person are from different parts of the Earth and look similar so why couldn't an Earthling and a Karplooshian (I made that up) look similar?
 

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Eh. Sheer probability states that there is alien life in the universe.

I'm much more a staunch believer that they either lack the technology to reach us in any practical amount of time (We're talking about hundreds of thousands of years by our own forms of spacial transport) or simply would rather not talk to us. Understandably.
 

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KefkaCultist said:
tthor said:
KefkaCultist said:
Yes I believe that there is more than one planet in the universe that has life.

I don't believe that they are freaky looking, horror film style either, I think they look similar if not just like we do.

And I don't believe our government has made contact because if we had I'm sure we'd have some intergalactic war on our hands because we'd be trying to impose ourselves into their world
no offense, but why would you believe that they look a lot like us? if anything, i don't think films make aliens freaky enough! hell, i wouldn't even be surprised if aliens weren't bisemetrical,
No offense taken, I see no reason why we've portrayed them in our culture as outlandish beings, sure if they do exist they may be grotesque or freakish but there is a possibility that they look similar. An American and Chinese person are from different parts of the Earth and look similar so why couldn't an Earthling and a Karplooshian (I made that up) look similar?
well to be fair, an american and chinese man are both decendants of the same thing, and have incredibly similar DNA. A Karplooshian, on the other hand, decended from a completely different microganism even, and for all we know, it might not even have DNA as we understand it