Poll: Voluntary Human Extinction
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Alien 1: Wow I wonder who lived here?
Alien 2: I dunno but they must have been stupid.
Alien 1: Yea I mean who fucks-up there planet then buggers of leaving nuclear waste and pollution behind for all the polar bears to enjoy.
Alien 2: I know, anyway lets go get wasted.
3 hours later
Alien 1: OMIGOD! BOB WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH MY WIFE!
Alien 2: I dunno but they must have been stupid.
Alien 1: Yea I mean who fucks-up there planet then buggers of leaving nuclear waste and pollution behind for all the polar bears to enjoy.
Alien 2: I know, anyway lets go get wasted.
3 hours later
Alien 1: OMIGOD! BOB WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH MY WIFE!
] Well my point really is prove we will doom ourselves. I take on the point that we will have less resources, but it's likely that with greaer amounts of people more technological advancements will occur and more farming will occur because until the point the sun runs out we have a very large source of energy we can utilize.starrman said:
Technological advancement is dependent in part upon having the resources to devote to it, resources which as we've already noted will become in short supply. The percentage of technologically educated people within the population is more likely to fall against dwindling resources than rise. Until the technology reaches a high enough standard, solar power is just too expensive and too inefficient to replace conventional means of power and with dwindling resources is unlikely to reach that high standard.
I'm not saying this is going to happen tomorrow, but I think it is inevitable. Sure, we could suddenly happen upon a way of sailing off to another planet tomorrow, but it's unlikely and I'd rather not put my trust in a gamble like that when a simple approach to birth rate stability would be far easier achieved.
I'm not saying this is going to happen tomorrow, but I think it is inevitable. Sure, we could suddenly happen upon a way of sailing off to another planet tomorrow, but it's unlikely and I'd rather not put my trust in a gamble like that when a simple approach to birth rate stability would be far easier achieved.
Here's what I say to these human extinction and environmental wackos who think the same:
"You go first!"
"Please, set an example, and we'll follow you when our brains fall out..."
"You go first!"
"Please, set an example, and we'll follow you when our brains fall out..."
Sorry for the double post.
Secondly, I want someone to name the resources that we could run out of in a relatively short time. Don't bother naming Coal or Oil, because we've still got large untapped deposits of both and both remake themselves over time (it was recently found that oil wells seem to be filling back in).
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that education will not lead to a slowing birth rate if indeed it is true that education does not stop kids from having unprotected sex like we established in other thread (not that I agree with that, but I'm going to use it anyway).starrman said:
Secondly, I want someone to name the resources that we could run out of in a relatively short time. Don't bother naming Coal or Oil, because we've still got large untapped deposits of both and both remake themselves over time (it was recently found that oil wells seem to be filling back in).
As some people have pointed out before me... (like this person here)
Just like I say there is no such thing as an "unnatural substance". Everything we have, from plastics to stainless steel, is made of basic elements we find in nature. If the parts we use to make them don't exist in nature, then where the hell did we get them? It's all natural, we just restructure it.
... Exceptions are the basic elements we can actually make ourselves, like roentgenium, but these are almost always useless and break after like 10 minutes due to instability anyway.
So no, there is absolutely no reason for us to go extinct, other than us being eaten by wolves, in which case it'd be the natural order of things.
... humans are also a part of the "natural order". We do what we do because it is our nature to do so. For us to exterminate ourselves would actually be to disrupt the natural order of things, as our emergence is a part of that natural order.joystickjunki3 said:
Just like I say there is no such thing as an "unnatural substance". Everything we have, from plastics to stainless steel, is made of basic elements we find in nature. If the parts we use to make them don't exist in nature, then where the hell did we get them? It's all natural, we just restructure it.
... Exceptions are the basic elements we can actually make ourselves, like roentgenium, but these are almost always useless and break after like 10 minutes due to instability anyway.
So no, there is absolutely no reason for us to go extinct, other than us being eaten by wolves, in which case it'd be the natural order of things.
Thank you. I'm glad I'm not alone on the matter. Even if I did not phrase it as eloquently as you have.Nomadic said:
Why the hell would we want to exterminate the human race? That's probably the weirdest idea I've ever heard. We spent centuries getting to where we are; why would we throw it all away now?
Since the act of reproducing and not actual reproducing is the number one form of entertainment in the world I think it would be best to start with population controls. But then you get into the issue of who has the right to dictate the controls? Who gets to be the exception? Why are there exceptions? Do we go to war with those that do not abide the exceptions? Why can not everyone be gay and just fix the problem that way? Does anyone really thing these people have a chance in Hades of making this work?
maybe not population CONTROL, but definitely keep up the wars and stuff. Humans are spilling out of wombs faster than we can stick em in graves, and its not working out. Keep up the wars, and everything will balance out in the end...
Can you tell I hate my fellow man? ^^
Can you tell I hate my fellow man? ^^
People should be handed licenses to breed, stupid people, sex offenders, pedophiles and other such people of similar natures, shouldn't be allowed to have one.
and in the case of someone attempting to reproduce without a license their offspring will be terminated, forcing stupid people (and the rest) to live in underground socities and never be seen aagin.
So we've already stunted some of the populations growth, but not stopped it completely, and because non-stupid people (and the rest) are not allowed to breed (legally) It'll leave the world in the hands of the smart people who're capable of enjoying the world with a sense of cultural unity (this is of course after religion is outlawed too).
Really it's a very distopian outlook on the world of tomorrow, but really it seems like it could end up happening one day...
Kinda like the movie demolition man.
and in the case of someone attempting to reproduce without a license their offspring will be terminated, forcing stupid people (and the rest) to live in underground socities and never be seen aagin.
So we've already stunted some of the populations growth, but not stopped it completely, and because non-stupid people (and the rest) are not allowed to breed (legally) It'll leave the world in the hands of the smart people who're capable of enjoying the world with a sense of cultural unity (this is of course after religion is outlawed too).
Really it's a very distopian outlook on the world of tomorrow, but really it seems like it could end up happening one day...
Kinda like the movie demolition man.
Well seen as how it goes against the most primal and basic instinct of pretty much every animal on the planet, no, I think the human race should continue.
With respect, plenty of hippies got into Zero Population Growth in the mid '70s, as well as other movements that make up the whole flagellant wing of the ecological movement.naftali1 said:
Besides, this movement is based on an obsolete model with an overly-limited data set [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Population_Bomb]. It's old news, and it's failed numerous tests of its predictions in any case.
-- Steve