Screw waiting for damn lights, I'm a busy man! Just wait for a gap in traffic ... aannndd ... go!
It's not so much about cautiousness for me. "Red light means stop" is the rule, and I don't want to break the rules for no reason. I admit, it sometimes makes me feel a bit stupid just standing next to an empty street waiting fort the light to change, but I do it anyway. I don't break the rule when I'm driving, so I don't break it on foot either.Jonluw said:Why wouldn't I cross when there's no cars nearby?
There has to be a limit to cautiousness, and it's not like it's illegal. At least not where I live.
That's why you use those "useless" globes in your skull-sockets called EYES to LOOK if there's a car coming or not, rather than putting "blind" faith (if you'll excuse that particular choice of words) in the orders of a fucking traffic-light.Llil said:Walking across and getting hit by a car can cause the car to crash, which can harm the people in the car. Of course, you'll probably get more hurt, but that's not a good excuse.
The very reason the rules are there is to provide us with guidelines to insure that no harm is done. However, there are situations when said rules are redundant (as in the situation with a person witha functional set of eyes looking both ways to insure that no cars are coming when he or she is about to cross the road).Llil said:Breaking rules when there's apparently "no harm done" is still breaking the rules. Besides, you never know if harm will be done after all.
My guess would be that the primary reason you do it is just that: to gain some sort of morbid sense of superiority out of it. Well guess what, the only one who thinks you are somehow superior is you, no one else...Llil said:It's just something that's been bothering me, and it does make me feel slightly superior when I'm the only one who stays to wait for green (for what that's worth).
I never said you should blindly trust the traffic lights. Of course you should look around in case someone thinks it's okay not care about other cars and people.Housebroken Lunatic said:That's why you use those "useless" globes in your skull-sockets called EYES to LOOK if there's a car coming or not, rather than putting "blind" faith (if you'll excuse that particular choice of words) in the orders of a fucking traffic-light.
I'm advocating not breaking the rules when there's no reason to. It's just that "following the rules" and "not breaking the rules" usually mean the same thing.If you advocate following "the rules" for the sake of following rules, I'd say that there's something seriously wrong with your critical thinking.
Maybe. Or maybe I just don't like when people don't do what's been agreed on. And I don't want to be the kind of person I dislike.My guess would be that the primary reason you do it is just that: to gain some sort of morbid sense of superiority out of it. Well guess what, the only one who thinks you are somehow superior is you, no one else...
Then why is driving through red light any different? If you clearly see no-one's coming, then what's the problem?And as for the "you never know"-crap, YES I do in fact KNOW that if im at a street crossing and no cars are around, NO ONE is going to be harmed by my actions if I cross the road even if the light is red.
What the fuck? Do you have a target painted on all of your clothing? I just don't even understand how it's possible to be hit by a car that many times in so short a span of time.crudus said:I never do it, because it is so easy to miss a car, then you have a broken pelvis and one hell of a hospital bill. I try to limit my crosswalk usage. Even when I did have a go-ahead/right-of-way (green light, walking man, etc), I still managed to get hit by a car ~8 times in the passed year. Fuck. that. noise. I always try to jaywalk now.
There's a very BIG difference between what you can see and hear standing on the sidewalk and sitting in a car.Llil said:Then why is driving through red light any different? If you clearly see no-one's coming, then what's the problem?
I don't know what the law says in Finland; but in Norway, Sweden and the UK "Red light means stop" is not the rule at all.Llil said:It's not so much about cautiousness for me. "Red light means stop" is the rule, and I don't want to break the rules for no reason. I admit, it sometimes makes me feel a bit stupid just standing next to an empty street waiting fort the light to change, but I do it anyway. I don't break the rule when I'm driving, so I don't break it on foot either.Jonluw said:Why wouldn't I cross when there's no cars nearby?
There has to be a limit to cautiousness, and it's not like it's illegal. At least not where I live.