- Apr 14, 2009
Well, it was either the bombs or Chuck Norris, I think they chose the most humane option.
You have to remember that this bomb was the first of its kind. No one had this much destructive power, and because of this it was a matter of calling bluffs. Since there had never been a bomb like this before it would be easy for the Japanese to think that there was only one. In their minds, something that powerful must have taken a lot of time and resources to create, and it isn't likely that that amount of effort would be put into creating another one, or they lacked the resources to build another one. Which means they would think that we were bluffing about the second one. Once we dropped it though, they realized that we did indeed have more of these bombs and that we weren't bluffing.Nihilism_Is_Bliss said:i think one is justifiable.
sure, my history knowledge suxorz, but i don't see why they had to drop two.
Japan just felt lucky that day.I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
nagasaki was a munitions manufacturing area as I understand it, "Hiroshima was a city of considerable military importance, containing Japan's Second Army Headquarters, as well as being a communications center and storage depot."
Those civilians, and many more, would have died anyway. Civilian or soldier, they were honor bound to fight us which was seen in the southern islands we did manage to take. Which is why we used the bombs. There was no way we were setting foot on the main islands. We lost countless soldiers just taking the southern ones. I'm not a proponent of war, nukes, or a republican, but it really was the only way to send a message to the emperor and the weapon manufacturers who convinced him to go to war with us in the first place.Eukaryote said:Killing civilians in war is ALWAYS wrong, and despite all of the positive effects it had I will never argue it was a good thing.
They were trying to surrender, although with conditions, but neither US or Soviet Union were interested in accepting it until they carried their agenda. US wanted to finish the manhattan project testing the atomic bombs in a real war theatre. And the soviets wanted to secure the Kuril Islands to strenghten their access to the Pacific Ocean. Only after that was acomplished they accepted it.reg42 said:No, it wasn't.
The American's saidbut Japan didn't do anything.We're gonna drop this bomb on yo' ass and it's gonna really fuck your shit up, so surrender now
America dropped it and Japan got buggered up. Then America warned then that they would do it all again if they didn't surrender, and they still didn't. They got another bomb dropped on them. Then they surrendered. It was the fault of the stubborn Japanese emperor.
It was war. During war, you don't think of the other country, but your own.
Taking the lower islands was a mess. We lost countless soldiers. Soldiers that were captured by the other side were tortured so that their screams could be heard by our lines. It was horrific in ways no one who wasn't there could comprehend.katsabas said:The amounts of different depictions of the same fact (Japan ready to surrender, Japan would never surrender) are so clusterfuckyyyyy.....
I am not big on WWII history but as I understand it, the Russians were Allies right? Well, since Japan knew they were going to be flanked, why didn't they surrender? I mean, you are going up against not one but two of the biggest countries in the world while stranded on an island, without battleships or planes. What do YOU think it will happen? And according to what most people say here, they didn't contact during the 3 days deadline. Being proud is certainly something every man should be. Being TOO proud is going to get you in trouble.
You are basically dooming your entire population to non-existence because you are a god to the minds of your 'worshipers'. If you do have that kind of power, SAVE YOUR PEOPLE! DON'T STAND THERE LIKE A FUCKIN' PEZ DISPENSER! That is what the Emperor didn't seem to comprehend.
Also, I do not get why the US was trying to make a point to a country they are on the same side with but if they absolutely HAD to, did they really have to drop 2 bombs? And on cities? Generations of families had their bloodlines prematurely cut and the effects are felt even today. The second bomb was unnecessary while the picking of the cities was nothing if not malevolent IMO.
Then, why drop the bombs if the enemy is ready to give up? To swing your A-male cock? Good job. You made your point across by using a weapon that you didn't even fully know what consequences it would bring upon innocent people (hence today's teratogenesis).
They are both to blame. US with 2 bombs and Japan being too fucking proud.