Poll: Weight-loss surgeries, your opinion?
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I can?t say I support it but it?s your choice. I?m against it because of the damage it does to your body. Sure diet and exercise is a slow and hard process but it?s more of a lifestyle change. Besides, I could not have said it any better than this.
I'm pretty sure if he was a sponge he could just bud off and clone himself into a smaller version. Plus I don't think sponges are particularly tech savvy.Vicarious Reality said:
Are you planning on getting another surgery to remove your disgusting extra skin once you've shed your desired weight?
Im on a quite steady work-out program, and it's seems like I will have a pretty good chance of keeping my skin proportional to my body after the surgery.Dags90 said:
against in the end you need to eat less fatty foods (like junk food) and get more exercise in the end it,s temporary solution.
This is a clip I was waiting for, and I have to respond to some missconseptions that many have.Viral_Lola said:
These types of surgeries have a great deal of lifestyle change involved with them, and the hardest work starts around a year later, therfore many usually just looks at the first year after the surgery and concludes that its easy.
There are some few weak-willed people who end up gaining alot of weight again after the first year. So you must watch your diet.
If you don't train during the weight-loss, you will have muscle degeneration that can be severe in some cases.
And even though you lose weight fast, your body can only lose up to a certain amount. The average BMI drop in these surgeries are about 15-20, so a obese person (BMI 40+) will at best return to a average BMI.
And just so it's said, that clip from Scrubs where directed at a fat ***** who said "fuck it" to even try any other way and just demand surgery as a first option.
I know someone that's had this surgery done. They went from 'morbidly obese' (according to an anorexic looking doctor and their famous BMI scale) to 'sick'. They now cannot get enough nutrients in them to keep them healthy. Oh, they look great, but they looked great before the surgery. It all depends on whether or not you can accept you for who, and what you are. If you can't, then no surgery in the world can help you.
I'd suggest serious life changes involving a reasonable diet (note, the diet I'm on is based on a diabetic diet) where you eat smaller, healthier meals, more often during the day. This does not mean go to McD's and get an apple pie because an apple a day is good for you. It means during those times between meals when you get really ravenously hungry, get an apple. Not an apple tart, not an apple donut, a real live apple. More veggies, and rice cakes have more flavors now than when they did when I needed to lose a person's worth of weight. I did the work. So can you. If you need a diet that works, and an exercise regimen that works, you can always PM me. I'll give you mine.
One last thing. Cut out all the mayo. Yes, I said it, ALL THE MAYO!! There ain't nothin' in there but fat.
Personal opinion on you getting that surgery... don't. Work it out. As I said, you can always contact me, a fellow Escapist, for assistance.
I'd suggest serious life changes involving a reasonable diet (note, the diet I'm on is based on a diabetic diet) where you eat smaller, healthier meals, more often during the day. This does not mean go to McD's and get an apple pie because an apple a day is good for you. It means during those times between meals when you get really ravenously hungry, get an apple. Not an apple tart, not an apple donut, a real live apple. More veggies, and rice cakes have more flavors now than when they did when I needed to lose a person's worth of weight. I did the work. So can you. If you need a diet that works, and an exercise regimen that works, you can always PM me. I'll give you mine.
One last thing. Cut out all the mayo. Yes, I said it, ALL THE MAYO!! There ain't nothin' in there but fat.
Personal opinion on you getting that surgery... don't. Work it out. As I said, you can always contact me, a fellow Escapist, for assistance.
Well, from what I know having had the surgery is a good motivator for people to stay the course. If you get everything removed immediately there's a risk to your health (I think) and there's also a higher risk that you fall back as you haven't really put effort into getting in shape to begin with.
A limited surgery plus lifestyle changes seems like the fastest way to get on the right track, and seems sensible enough.
I'm well aware that you can "just man up" but seeing how we have obesity at all this has already failed.
A limited surgery plus lifestyle changes seems like the fastest way to get on the right track, and seems sensible enough.
I'm well aware that you can "just man up" but seeing how we have obesity at all this has already failed.
It's drastic, something to be tried as a last resort. If it is a last resort, though, fair enough.
Oh, and, you really, really don't want to pay too much attention to randoms on the net giving you medical advice. Or discussing matters to do with body fat, for that matter.
Oh, and, you really, really don't want to pay too much attention to randoms on the net giving you medical advice. Or discussing matters to do with body fat, for that matter.
This, totally.thaluikhain said:
For all the people who seem to think that their personal experience applies to the world, weight-loss surgery does have its place.
Namely in situations in which the dangers of one's body fat outweighs the dangers of weight loss procedures.
The thing is, OP, Why on Earth are you asking this of people on the internet?! You go do what you need to do for your health. If this means following through with this procedure, then fuck everyone else. Their unthorough opinions on the matter aren't doing you any good.
That being said, if you're not sure if you're in a position to qualify for this surgery in the first place, I'd suggest explaining the matter in detail in the advice forum.
Have you tried many other options like dieting and exercising? Of course you have. Sometimes surgery is the best option. Often times people get so upset about trying to lose weight they end up having setback after setback.
I say go for it, what have you got to lose? I know the risks, but I think you'll greatly enjoy the rewards.
I say go for it, what have you got to lose? I know the risks, but I think you'll greatly enjoy the rewards.
If it is physically possible for you to lose it without surgery then do not take the surgery. (Like it does for 99% of people). All surgeries have a great risk involved.
Beside, if you take easy way out, you take the easier way to become fat again. Just cut back on your in take, become more active, not just by sports but also keep your mind active with interesting hobbies and you can lose weight. Believe me it is possible, physically for anyone to lose weight, mentally is a different thing. If you keep saying that you can't lose the weight and keep pushing your self-esteem down with fat and sugar, you wont lose it. You must want it enough.
Also. You can not lose weight by starving, your body will go to a lockdown and start using less energy than it did before and start storing every piece of energy as fat. That is how human body works. If you want to lose weight, be active, eat at regular intervals a healthy meal (it doesn't need to be all greens, you can eat meat and carps also, but keep it balanced with the 1/2-1/4-1/4 rule)
Beside, if you take easy way out, you take the easier way to become fat again. Just cut back on your in take, become more active, not just by sports but also keep your mind active with interesting hobbies and you can lose weight. Believe me it is possible, physically for anyone to lose weight, mentally is a different thing. If you keep saying that you can't lose the weight and keep pushing your self-esteem down with fat and sugar, you wont lose it. You must want it enough.
Also. You can not lose weight by starving, your body will go to a lockdown and start using less energy than it did before and start storing every piece of energy as fat. That is how human body works. If you want to lose weight, be active, eat at regular intervals a healthy meal (it doesn't need to be all greens, you can eat meat and carps also, but keep it balanced with the 1/2-1/4-1/4 rule)
I'm against it, for the same reason I'm against diet pills and idiotic diets like atikins.
it's pointless, you get cut up, to get a strap on your stomach to help you eat less, so you don't take in as many calories, so you can lose weigth. Hold on, why not just keep track of what you eat and eat a bit less? same result, ad then you don't get the scar.
it's pointless, you get cut up, to get a strap on your stomach to help you eat less, so you don't take in as many calories, so you can lose weigth. Hold on, why not just keep track of what you eat and eat a bit less? same result, ad then you don't get the scar.
I'm going to join the neutral-rational choire and say "Don't ask opinion or advice regarding personal decisions from people on the internet".
As for plastic surgery in general, I don't know. I myself am very much a thin person and have been for most of my life. And it's because I don't gain weight, not because I work out or eat healthy. I'm for people being able to do whatever the hell they want with their own bodies, but I am going to say that it may tell something about you if you opt for surgery if you have the chance to just change to a healthier lifestyle. Then again, these things are always context sensitive.
As for plastic surgery in general, I don't know. I myself am very much a thin person and have been for most of my life. And it's because I don't gain weight, not because I work out or eat healthy. I'm for people being able to do whatever the hell they want with their own bodies, but I am going to say that it may tell something about you if you opt for surgery if you have the chance to just change to a healthier lifestyle. Then again, these things are always context sensitive.
I know of two people who have had a gastric bypass: my mother and my boyfriends stephmother, and there were two different reasons for them to get surgery, and two completely different resuts after the surgery.
the stephmother: she is rather typical, she has a hard time to motivate her self to exercise and eat right, and can never stay on a diet for more than a couple of days.
her husband has tried to go on diets with her to motivate her, but it would always end with him dieting alone. when the whole family goes camping or hiking, which happens fairly often, she will always stay home and watch TV, because she doesen't like to hike, bike, run, swim, skii or well anything that requires movement.
in sweden if you manage to convince a psychiatrist that you know no other way and say that you feel deeply depressed, you can have the surgery practically for free, and this she did.
so she had the surgery, lost a pretty good ammount of weight, went back to her old diet and she is right back at where she started.
she had her surgery 5 years ago.
my mother: she might not always have done the best choices when it comes to food, but when she made her mind up she would be very dedicated, but her overweight had caused permanent damage to her bones, so she could'n exercise properly, and she was really depressed, she had no energy or motivation left to take care of her self, so she would always smell rather strange and look terribly tired.
when she got the surgery she lost a huge ammount of weight, making it possible for her to exercise, and so she still does regularly, and she still pretty much keeps to the diet recommended by the doctors.
she is now a completely different person, she has so much more energy and so much more happy.
The surgery was the push she needed, and she had it 4 years ago.
sometimes, the surgery is something good, and a neccessity, but sometimes it is just an easy way out.
do it for the right reasons, because if you don't, you will fall back to square one any way.
Btw, strange side effect: people that have gone through a gastric bypass always seem more sensitive to cold than other people.
EDIT: and for all of you who think these surgeries goes with out effort, let me tell you: it doesten't.
there is a certain diet you need to follow before the surgery for 2 weeks where you only eat liquid food in order to shrink the liver and minimize the risks during the surgery, and if you are too fat you can't even have the surgery until you have lost a few kilos on your own.
and depending on the effort you put in to loosing weight after the surgery the better results you'll get, and after the surgery there is a strict diet one needs to follow and several steps before one can even consider eating normal food again, and this is a painful process.
The surgery is a boost not a soloution.
the stephmother: she is rather typical, she has a hard time to motivate her self to exercise and eat right, and can never stay on a diet for more than a couple of days.
her husband has tried to go on diets with her to motivate her, but it would always end with him dieting alone. when the whole family goes camping or hiking, which happens fairly often, she will always stay home and watch TV, because she doesen't like to hike, bike, run, swim, skii or well anything that requires movement.
in sweden if you manage to convince a psychiatrist that you know no other way and say that you feel deeply depressed, you can have the surgery practically for free, and this she did.
so she had the surgery, lost a pretty good ammount of weight, went back to her old diet and she is right back at where she started.
she had her surgery 5 years ago.
my mother: she might not always have done the best choices when it comes to food, but when she made her mind up she would be very dedicated, but her overweight had caused permanent damage to her bones, so she could'n exercise properly, and she was really depressed, she had no energy or motivation left to take care of her self, so she would always smell rather strange and look terribly tired.
when she got the surgery she lost a huge ammount of weight, making it possible for her to exercise, and so she still does regularly, and she still pretty much keeps to the diet recommended by the doctors.
she is now a completely different person, she has so much more energy and so much more happy.
The surgery was the push she needed, and she had it 4 years ago.
sometimes, the surgery is something good, and a neccessity, but sometimes it is just an easy way out.
do it for the right reasons, because if you don't, you will fall back to square one any way.
Btw, strange side effect: people that have gone through a gastric bypass always seem more sensitive to cold than other people.
EDIT: and for all of you who think these surgeries goes with out effort, let me tell you: it doesten't.
there is a certain diet you need to follow before the surgery for 2 weeks where you only eat liquid food in order to shrink the liver and minimize the risks during the surgery, and if you are too fat you can't even have the surgery until you have lost a few kilos on your own.
and depending on the effort you put in to loosing weight after the surgery the better results you'll get, and after the surgery there is a strict diet one needs to follow and several steps before one can even consider eating normal food again, and this is a painful process.
The surgery is a boost not a soloution.
I fine for those who are taking it if they are really obese and taking it as a last resort. I can understand how some person body work differently to other people body (if their metabolism is strong or weak). I mean maybe those people had taken exercises, cut back on their meal intake but they're still not losing much weight (it's all have to do with the metabolism in your body).
To be perfectly honest I have a friend of mine who had this operation after she tried everything, and I mean EVERYTHING to lose weight. She changed her diet, exercised regularly and did all of those healthy lifestyle changes and it didn't help her enough. Now that she's had the surgery she's losing weight fast and keeping it off for the first time in her life and she looks amazing! Some people see it as the "easy way out" but it isn't. If you aren't careful and stick with the changes required with it then not only will it not work, you'll end up hurting yourself. In all reality it's a last resort and it works, but with all things it only works if you work at it. If it is the only option left to you after you have tried everything else, then go for it but just know it won't be easy.
