Assassinator said:
Specter_ said:
Assassinator said:
Specter_ said:
Sensenmann said:
I dont believe that suffering is fair. I think the government should allow a set timeframe, that if the person is not better, they may opt for euthanasia.
I disagree with time being a factor. There have been cancer-treatments that lastet well over 5 years with the patient being 100% healthy afterwards (of course after another couple of years of rehab). In my opinion it's more about probability. If someone has a probability of <1% of getting better with the prospect of a painfull life, that is the point of thinking about euthanasia.
Why? What if someone wants to die when he/she has 2% chance? Who gives you the right to make that call for that person, why can't he/she let that decide for him/herself? Afterall, it's HIM/HER life, HIS/HER body, not yours.
You got me wrong:
In the case that a person can still make own judgements, there is no probability. And I'm still for trying before dieing.
And you totally ignored the "with the prospect of a painfull life". There might be a treatment for whatever the person has, but that says nothing about the life-quality after the treatment. And I'd prefer a swift and painless death over a long treatment that leaves me alive, but crippled and tortured.
O no I didn't forget that
I'm just saying, if someone really wants to die, let them. It's there own choice, not ours.
And in my head that's the difference between euthanasia and suicide.
If they just want to die, let them try. But if it's related to a medical state it should run it's course through a sophisticated, fact-based system that determines wether or not the person can be helped.
If the treatment helps and the person still wants to die, it switches back to suicide.
I've got an example:
I know a guy who crippled himself by being drunk and jumping headfirst into 30 centimetre deep water, thus breaking his neck (if anyone wondered why I laughed at a paralyzed guy: that's the one).
That was 6 years ago, he was 22 at the time, hyperfit, a promising swimmer and quite a bright guy.
After a year or so he tried to kill himself and failed due to his inability to hold stuff with his hands. Back then he himself saw no perspective of ever leading anything even remotely called "a life" ever again.
When he was 25, he was back in university, finishing his promotion in computer science and now earns about 15k per month, has a pregnant wive and is one of the most zen people I know.
5 years ago, he'd happily jump at whatever opportunity he had to die.
But on the medical basis there was no evidence whatsoever that he should die. The treatments available were promising and effective.
So yes, if he wants to kill himself, fine. Let him try.
But do not support his deathwish with any medical support whatsoever.
