Competitive play would be any kind of real competition. Between friends, between guild mates, against other guilds, or in WoW, arena/rated battlegrounds yes. It doesn't have to be for a definite prize, but it does have to be to see who's better than the others. So not just some friendly matches.Moonlight Butterfly said:I often see people put this and do they mean like competitive as in a public tournament or playing pvp because I'm pretty sure I don't know anyone who has played publicly yet I have a lot of friends I'd definately count as 'gamers' even if I didn't include myself in there. Maybe one guy who used to play CS.
I have never really had the opportunity to compete besides arcades and LAN's but then again I live in the middle of nowhere.
-I did say 'playing more than an hour a day on average, if you have more free time than that'. As in, if you have more than an hour a day to spend on games, but aren't using it for that. And no, after class activities, going to the stores, and other such things are not counted as free time to me. From what you're saying, you don't have enough free time to play more than an hour. So that rule wouldn't apply to you.StBishop said:sniiiiip
One of my sisters plays farmville, and the other likes playing Nazi zombies when she visits her friends, and me and my dad are both fans of deus ex, half life and so forth.Blood Brain Barrier said:Everyone is a gamer nowdays. I don't know anyone who isn't.
Dude, when the AAA industry sucks so hard that even gamers in their spare time can make better games than them, that its not being a hipster, that is having good taste.lacktheknack said:I, who constantly recommend obscure and unconventional stuff as well as play them, am a "hipster douche gamer".
I agree with /almost/ everything in this post. The almost being that Birth of a Nation actually /was/ a masterpiece, being one of the most influential films of all time. Sure, it was full of racism and caused the resurgance of the KKK, but it also pioneered pretty much everything about modern film making that wasn't pioneered by either Citizen Kane or Star Wars. Plus, the director felt bad about single handedly reviving the KKK, so he made Intolerance, kind of the anti-Birth of a Nation, to atone.DioWallachia said:.......
You forgot to put the following:
*The person who looks at Shadow Complex with tears on his eyes because he loves the game, but if he PAYS for it, the developer is going to use the founding on making anti-gay rights propaganda. So the person has to download it ilegaly knowing that the franchize will not move foward if he doesnt pay, but at least some people that he doesnt know will be happy.
*The person that can no longer pick up a game from the store and play it ASAP, nor enjoy games anymore because it HAS to: carefully research the game press, pre-release,how many promises are going to be broken by the developers THEMSELVES and not the marketing department, reviews that ARENT bombarded with a suspicious ammount of the game adverticing, how much of the ACTUAL game is in the disc that it paid and how many DLC he is going to pay next just to get the ending of a story, survive the journey to BUY the game while avoiding religious and feminist protesters because the word "*****" was used on the trailer and one of the Protagonist is a woman taking orders from a man (regardless of the context), and surf the forums detailing the problems that the game has and that whatever innovation was brough here, was already done before..........just for that person to be called "An entitled hedonistic piece of shit, who is the cancer that is destroying games as art"
*The person who withnessed the fall of Bullfrog and the Ultima series and many innocents more in the hands in Electronic Arts. And yet, when its absolutely clear that they see games as products before they are even CONSIDERED art, people STILL think that the Mass Effect 3 ending fiasco its the fault of the gamers and not the executives that pulled the strings AGAIN.
*The person who cant give a honest opinion about the boot babes without being labeled as sexist. Even if the intention was to ilustrate how OBVIOUS it is that the exec of the game are pulling a Turd Polishing tecnique for mass appeal to avoid using that same money on the ACTUAL GAME.
*The person who watches in horror on how the last 10 years of gaming history remain forgotten. Where developers still think that pulling something as magnifiently done as a final boss in Planescape Torment is "so video-gamey", and still being lauded as the ONLY people who bring innovation to the industry even if it was done already.
*The person who sees the "artistic integrity" as a cheap device for future lazy developers to excuse their lack of creativity and humility in admitid that they are just in for the money. Thus with that excuse on the table, developers can never be criticized for their faults because they expect the audience to shut down their brains and enjoy the madness. Because after all its just a game, right? there is no objective analizis because everything is subjective. And for that, you can enjoy our crap along with other mastepieces like Birth of a Nation, Mein Kampf, Twilight and Jack & Jill.
If the audience is too stupid to care about the effort that an artist has to offer, then why they should even TRY to elevate the medium as an art form? Doesnt that hurt the medium even MORE if the audience were the problem? as some people have said?
So, dear gamer, are you happy about you hobby? are you a *happy gamer*?
Oh right that makes more sense then.sanquin said:Competitive play would be any kind of real competition. Between friends, between guild mates, against other guilds, or in WoW, arena/rated battlegrounds yes. It doesn't have to be for a definite prize, but it does have to be to see who's better than the others. So not just some friendly matches.Moonlight Butterfly said:I often see people put this and do they mean like competitive as in a public tournament or playing pvp because I'm pretty sure I don't know anyone who has played publicly yet I have a lot of friends I'd definately count as 'gamers' even if I didn't include myself in there. Maybe one guy who used to play CS.
I have never really had the opportunity to compete besides arcades and LAN's but then again I live in the middle of nowhere.
I think you are being a little harsh on the community overall. These outcries arent really outcries as much as someone with too much time on their hands caring about whether or not a woman is given money to talk about video games on youtube.TheKasp said:You play games on consoles (including phones and other handheld devices) or PC? Congratulations, you passed the test to qualify as a gamer.
Well... I would like to answer that even though the question was not aimed at me:TheNewGuy said:I'm curious, why do you know longer label yourself as a gamer?
I don't like being associated with the gaming community. In my real life I tend not to use the term 'gamer' when describing my hobbies or preferences, I just say that I love playing and working with video games - always including my other 'geeky' hobbies. And the reason behind this is... not simple.
Over the last year there were several 'outcries' in the gaming community. ME3, Cross Assault, Sarkeesian... Disregarding my position on those topics one thing I realised is that most gamers tend to feel attacked, insulted or whatever by the slight mention the community surrounding games or games per se might have certain problems. Be it the constant bitching about things without any supporting evidence (Sarkeesian), personal attacks on people or defending - if not encouraging this kind of behaviour (Sarkeesian, Cross Assault). The ME3 spectacle was overblowing it. What I realised after all this is when I say that I am a gamer I have one choice (personally): I embrace this kind of behaviour, start accepting and encouraging people to be assholes, whine and ***** or just threaten anyone who disagrees with them on some topics. Because this is what I associate with the gaming community. Defending sexism, racism and homphobia as part of their culture, ignoring the topic at hand and blaming the victims because they did not use the unsufficiant possibilities at hand (no, mute does jack shit to fight the issue as long as I have to mute them but they still remain heard by anyone who does not know what they have to expect to hear).
A little overblown but yeah, this is my reason for why I don't like to label myself as a gamer.