Poll: What is your stance on Guns?

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I disagree with all four options. I think that certain weapons (ie; shotguns, air rifles) should be allowed, but only for people who know how to use them, and only if their profession requires it. I don't think every peace keeper should have them, however I can see the advantage of having a certain group of officers at each station being armed in case of emergency.
 

Prince Regent

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I'm somewhere between just police and none at all. I understand that it's usefull for police officers to carry guns, but it could bee a good idea too to remove guns from the market altogether.
 

olshriek

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umm can I have the option of the current gun laws ie you know shotguns, hunting rifles and pistols?
I don't really think I need military ordinance to go deer hunting and I doubt I could goose hunt with a pistol, I guess I could try if you want but I kind of like my 12 gauge.

Also do you mean carry or own? If you mean carry then no I'm against carry laws. If you mean own then everything except modern military should be allowed.
 

Vicarious Reality

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The problem is that no one except me wants to institute and maintain a strict licensing system that checks if the person is responsible enough to own guns of varying lethality.

Every person has the right to own whatever they wish as long as they are sane.
 

loc978

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ravensheart18 said:
RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
orangeban said:
I like Britain's way. You can only have shotguns and rifles, and you can only have them for shooting pests (on farms) and hunting (though I don't agree with hunting.) You also can't carry them about town and have to keep them in a safe.

The idea that in America anyone around me could have a gun? Gives me the heebie-jeebies thinking about it.
What about a knife? Someone close by could just as easily draw a knife and stab you as they could pull a gun and shoot you.
People DO die from people who pull guns and hit an innocent bystander, the same is not true of a knife.
Far, far more people die in traffic accidents than shootings. Are you afraid to drive, or walk across the street? A car is often a more potent weapon than a gun. You'd do as well to get the heebie-jeebies from every car you see pass by.
 

Souplex

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My stance is that only people who use the search bar properly should be allowed to own guns or make threads.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.146207-Poll-Fun-control#3329136
 

orangeban

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RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
orangeban said:
I like Britain's way. You can only have shotguns and rifles, and you can only have them for shooting pests (on farms) and hunting (though I don't agree with hunting.) You also can't carry them about town and have to keep them in a safe.

The idea that in America anyone around me could have a gun? Gives me the heebie-jeebies thinking about it.
What about a knife? Someone close by could just as easily draw a knife and stab you as they could pull a gun and shoot you. More likely to get away from the scene as well. The fear that someone MIGHT have a gun is irrational if you do not equally fear the blade that may be a mere foot from your back. Even then such paranoia is irrational. Simply because one is armed dosen't mean they will kill someone at random. Most people aren't psychotic killers on the last thread of humanity they have. Most people with a gun aren't willing to kill someone. If you polled every citizen in the US if they were mentally ready to take a life just because they had a gun in their hand they would say no.

Another thing not all of us are religious zealots praying for rain or for god to fix the economy.
Easy buddy, I didn't say that everyone might pull a gun and shoot me, I was meerly saying the idea of it made me uneasy. Also, you can't carry a knife in Britain either.
 

orangeban

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loc978 said:
ravensheart18 said:
RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
orangeban said:
I like Britain's way. You can only have shotguns and rifles, and you can only have them for shooting pests (on farms) and hunting (though I don't agree with hunting.) You also can't carry them about town and have to keep them in a safe.

The idea that in America anyone around me could have a gun? Gives me the heebie-jeebies thinking about it.
What about a knife? Someone close by could just as easily draw a knife and stab you as they could pull a gun and shoot you.
People DO die from people who pull guns and hit an innocent bystander, the same is not true of a knife.
Far, far more people die in traffic accidents than shootings. Are you afraid to drive, or walk across the street? A car is often a more potent weapon than a gun. You'd do as well to get the heebie-jeebies from every car you see pass by.
Cars make me a bit un-easy (lots of things make me uneasy) but I understand the reason for having a car. Not so much for carrying a gun about town. If you get mugged, give them your wallet, it's not worth anyone dying over. Same with other types of robbery really.
 

loc978

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orangeban said:
Also, you can't carry a knife in Britain either.
That only applies to blades over three inches. You don't need more than three inches of blade to kill a man. This [http://images.goemerchant.net/StoreData/t/theknifetree/Images/D10_ColdSteelPocketBushman_1.jpg], for example, is perfectly legal to carry in London, and quite capable of puncturing your heart, lung, or kidney starting from outside your body.
orangeban said:
Cars make me a bit un-easy (lots of things make me uneasy) but I understand the reason for having a car. Not so much for carrying a gun about town. If you get mugged, give them your wallet, it's not worth anyone dying over. Same with other types of robbery really.
There, I agree with you. There's not a whole lot of reason to carry in most cities... certainly not openly. Depending where I'm going, I might carry a concealed subcompact .38 in a city... but usually I'll go unarmed.
Though really, a person mugging you and you pulling a gun generally doesn't end with anyone dying. 99% of the time it'll end with them running away.
ravensheart18 said:
It's called basic risk management. You eliminate risks that are unnecessary and that can be removed without great cost or hardship.

Guns are not needed, cars are. Therefore you keep the cars, and eliminate the guns. Then you try to make the cars as safe as possible.
In a perfect world, a given government could keep guns out of their country. We don't live in a perfect world. Eliminating gun trade in your country simply necessitates more policing of black market weapons. You wind up with nearly as many guns, and all in the wrong hands.
 

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Souplex said:
My stance is that only people who use the search bar properly should be allowed to own guns or make threads.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.146207-Poll-Fun-control#3329136
Captain obvoius says old threads are old
 

Ulquiorra4sama

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"It is my god-given right to shoot out the brains of any motherf**ker that dares tread into my house without permission"
Sure you should be allowed to use force to escort the dude from the premisses, but there are more civil ways to do it than killing him.

OT: I don't think anyone outside law-enforcement should be allowed to carry arms unless they've got a certificate of some kind that says they're fully capable of handling a gun.

Anything beyond that seems messed up to me.
 

lionsprey

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it's a complicated issue on the one hand allowing everyone to have a gun can't reduce the number of people shoot but on the other hand the people that are most likely to shoot someone are probably going to get a hold of guns anyway.
 

rokkolpo

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I'm not against guns.

I'm against dangerous* people owning guns.

*Dangerous=stupid
 

derdeutschmachine

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well, I own 9 guns as it is and plan to get my FFL with a class 3 license to deal I also have a permit to carry a concealed firearm which I do almost daily. I don't need to rely on anyone if someone or something comes at me, I'll be prepared. I do believe better regulation needs to be put in place but banning weapons is foolish. If people want them, they get them. If ever laws were passed to strip the populace of their right to own guns, I'd be up there with all my buddies rifles and pistols in hand ready to fight and die for my rights.

I trust my 454 and 1911 alot more than I trust my government.
 

Mr.Pandah

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rokkolpo said:
I'm not against guns.

I'm against dangerous* people owning guns.

*Dangerous=stupid
Pretty much this.

I'm a gun owner and I see no problem in a properly trained civilian who has had a background check and all that jazz owning a gun. Even with a right to carry, I still see no problem. A gun is a tool, just like a knife, or a screwdriver, or a car. It's the user that gives it the ability to do whatever they wish with it.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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progunliberty said:
derdeutschmachine said:
well, I own 9 guns as it is and plan to get my FFL with a class 3 license to deal I also have a permit to carry a concealed firearm which I do almost daily. I don't need to rely on anyone if someone or something comes at me, I'll be prepared. I do believe better regulation needs to be put in place but banning weapons is foolish. If people want them, they get them. If ever laws were passed to strip the populace of their right to own guns, I'd be up there with all my buddies rifles and pistols in hand ready to fight and die for my rights.

I trust my 454 and 1911 alot more than I trust my government.
O god you're a very bad man. destroy those firearms now. What if someone wanted to start a communist regime and take over the country? we can't have you pro freedom gun owners fighting back! Its just not right
I'd thought we'd go more than a page before someone envoked Poe's Law. A shame, really.