Poll: What primarily influences you to buy a NEW console?
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This time around, I'm very unlikely to get one. My PS3 serves as a handy blu-ray player (even though my desktop has a BR burner, commercial disk playback is SHITE on PC. No way am I forking over good money merely so I can play what I've already bought). I play everything on PC and love upgrading and building them.
I think the problem this time around is that for me, the line between a console and a computer has gotten too heavily blurred. In the past, they were strict gaming machines: you pop in the disc/cartridge, hit the power button and away you go. Last gen, it got a bit too close to what you'd expect out of a PC, what with third-party apps (e.g. Netflix), heavy focus on non-gaming, but with none of the freedoms typically associated with a PC.
This time around, it seems more like the last gen but with a texture pack. I have no need for another machine: the PS3 serves as a blu-ray player just fine, games that typically appear on an Xbox console are not my cup of tea, and neither console gives me the freedom to tinker with it.
For me, a console would have to be like the SteamBox: a customised OS dedicated mainly to gaming, with support for media playback but open (as in, I can choose what codecs and programs I want to use a la MPC-HC and VLC). Title exclusives? I don't feel the lack. I've played Ass Creed 1 and 2, and while they are somewhat fun games for example, I'm not exactly waking up in a cold sweat thinking to myself "Gotta play the rest of the series".
I think the problem this time around is that for me, the line between a console and a computer has gotten too heavily blurred. In the past, they were strict gaming machines: you pop in the disc/cartridge, hit the power button and away you go. Last gen, it got a bit too close to what you'd expect out of a PC, what with third-party apps (e.g. Netflix), heavy focus on non-gaming, but with none of the freedoms typically associated with a PC.
This time around, it seems more like the last gen but with a texture pack. I have no need for another machine: the PS3 serves as a blu-ray player just fine, games that typically appear on an Xbox console are not my cup of tea, and neither console gives me the freedom to tinker with it.
For me, a console would have to be like the SteamBox: a customised OS dedicated mainly to gaming, with support for media playback but open (as in, I can choose what codecs and programs I want to use a la MPC-HC and VLC). Title exclusives? I don't feel the lack. I've played Ass Creed 1 and 2, and while they are somewhat fun games for example, I'm not exactly waking up in a cold sweat thinking to myself "Gotta play the rest of the series".
Games, what my friends get and overall usefulness.
By usefulness I mean a console as an entertainment device not exclusively used for gaming. I like movies, streaming, you know the extra stuff.
Also the control scheme and how much use my non gaming family gets from it.
Honestly there is no ultimate deciding factor for me, it's a cumulation of little things all added together that influence my decisions.
By usefulness I mean a console as an entertainment device not exclusively used for gaming. I like movies, streaming, you know the extra stuff.
Also the control scheme and how much use my non gaming family gets from it.
Honestly there is no ultimate deciding factor for me, it's a cumulation of little things all added together that influence my decisions.
To get to the point lets say its the games, and price of course.
I don't particularly care about the other features although backwards compatibility is a nice bonus.
I don't particularly care about the other features although backwards compatibility is a nice bonus.
I don't know...
1. Does this "new" console has more than 10 games I'm willing to play, with genres such as JRPG, Platoformer, and Action-based Button Mashers coming out later on in its lifetime?
2. It there a way to play previous gen games in some way, especially the games that I enjoyed playing during that previous console gen?
3. What type of BS will it have that I'm willing to look pass while having said "new" console?
I guess that's why I'm barely part of this current gen even before the next gen roster has completely filled up... I usually spend YEARS not buying a "new" console until at least two of those questions I ask can be answered with a simple response... Now, I can't lie and say that I haven't bought something just to play one game (i.e. PSP for Birth By Sleep- oh hay! Persona, Tales, Ys, and Fate/Zero!), but those are usually made up by finding a already-old game for said "new" console that just so happens to be right up my corner of game preferences...
In other words... I don't know... The GAMES?!
1. Does this "new" console has more than 10 games I'm willing to play, with genres such as JRPG, Platoformer, and Action-based Button Mashers coming out later on in its lifetime?
2. It there a way to play previous gen games in some way, especially the games that I enjoyed playing during that previous console gen?
3. What type of BS will it have that I'm willing to look pass while having said "new" console?
I guess that's why I'm barely part of this current gen even before the next gen roster has completely filled up... I usually spend YEARS not buying a "new" console until at least two of those questions I ask can be answered with a simple response... Now, I can't lie and say that I haven't bought something just to play one game (i.e. PSP for Birth By Sleep- oh hay! Persona, Tales, Ys, and Fate/Zero!), but those are usually made up by finding a already-old game for said "new" console that just so happens to be right up my corner of game preferences...
In other words... I don't know... The GAMES?!
Well, the main reason is for the exclusives. But, I think Brand loyalty plays a smaller factor. I have had every Playstation console. I like Playstation consoles. They are good systems with good games.
Oh, I bought a Xbox way back in the day. The only games I could play on it and not my PS2 were KOTOR and KOTOR2. Those were literally the only games I think I ever played on the system. The result is that I love KOTOR and hated the Xbox. Thus, since the games sucked on the original, why would I pick up the sequel?
So, in an odd way, a bad experience tainted my views of a console so that I don't like it's follow ups that much. Though, I respect the 360 for what it did right. Still had no games that I wanted...
And that's a major reason for me to get the PS4. A variety of good games. Games that look different from each other and have colors. Games that I want to play. And PS+ certainly sweetens the deal with free games.
All Xbox One has is Titanfall. I might have picked Titanfall up on PS4, but I won't buy a Xbox to play it. So, EA lost one sale already.
*Launch titles are barely a thing. I'm not looking forward to any launch titles, but Infamous 3 and Destiny are already preordered.
*Backwards compatibility is nice, but not deal breaking.
*Multiplayer is nice for multiplayer games, but I think both systems do that pretty well, now.
*Hardware specs has always been a sort of "lowest common denominator" sort of deal. When making a multiplatform game, they tend to make the game to play on the weakest system. So, it doesn't matter as much, though I still note it.
That pretty much sums up my views, I think.
Oh, I bought a Xbox way back in the day. The only games I could play on it and not my PS2 were KOTOR and KOTOR2. Those were literally the only games I think I ever played on the system. The result is that I love KOTOR and hated the Xbox. Thus, since the games sucked on the original, why would I pick up the sequel?
So, in an odd way, a bad experience tainted my views of a console so that I don't like it's follow ups that much. Though, I respect the 360 for what it did right. Still had no games that I wanted...
And that's a major reason for me to get the PS4. A variety of good games. Games that look different from each other and have colors. Games that I want to play. And PS+ certainly sweetens the deal with free games.
All Xbox One has is Titanfall. I might have picked Titanfall up on PS4, but I won't buy a Xbox to play it. So, EA lost one sale already.
*Launch titles are barely a thing. I'm not looking forward to any launch titles, but Infamous 3 and Destiny are already preordered.
*Backwards compatibility is nice, but not deal breaking.
*Multiplayer is nice for multiplayer games, but I think both systems do that pretty well, now.
*Hardware specs has always been a sort of "lowest common denominator" sort of deal. When making a multiplatform game, they tend to make the game to play on the weakest system. So, it doesn't matter as much, though I still note it.
That pretty much sums up my views, I think.
First I start with the most important question: Is my primary gaming device the PC top notch? Yes = next question, No = no sale, Did Micro$uck make the console? Yes = no sale, No = next question, Is it 3+ years after the consoles release? Yes = next question, No = no sale, Has the console had at least 1 price drop? Yes = next question, No = no sale, Is there anything on the console even worth getting one for? 5+ games, if I got the cash go for it, Less than 5, wait, might be another price drop anyway.
I am really surprised how many people are choosing exclusive games. I am the opposite. I've not bought systems just because of how many exclusive games they have. I think the idea of exclusives is a way to trap people to buying your console when you don't want to actually have real draws for it. Easier to just force them in. Therefore, I'll just avoid it entirely. I'll deal with not ever playing the games.
Games and price. Too expensive and I wait for a price drop. As for games, It's happened that I bought the games before the console, but I'll never buy a console before the games I want on it are out.If the games I want are coming out on multiple consoles, I'll look for the cheapest one.
I'd say "Game Availability in General" rather then exclusives. While some exclusives are nice games, I'd put more stock in having a lot of 3rd party games that I like.
I'd have to say exclusives - functionality can be pretty important, but only if there's serious a serious disparity (i.e. WiiU). On the exclusives front, I personally feel that Sony comes out ahead here - I mean, sure, in the short-term, Microsoft snagged Titanfall, but Sony's maintained good exclusives (i.e. The Last of Us) throughout the console's lifecycle, whereas the last 360 exclusive of note was... Halo 4? And I didn't really care about it. Before that, Fable III, and again, didn't care that much. Long term, Sony seems to promise more value. And then there's the whole 'service' angle that Microsoft will try to creep in, etc. etc.
My usual rule for new consoles is: Are there three games at least that have captured my interest to own? Though, I admit, backwards compatibility is a nice big bonus, usually. Also, I tend to wait a year or two before I start taking a long hard look at 'new' systems...
Games I like and that usually melts over into console exclusive games. I originally had an XBox360 but it had no titles that I wanted that PS3 didn't also offer and PS3 had a great many exclusives that I really wanted to play, so I sold my 360 and all its games to purchase a brand new PS3. Price doesn't matter much because I only buy any console once it's dropped way down in price - I only bought the 360 last year and recently traded it in for the PS3.
Looking back at my 3 most recent new console purchases of the PS2, Wii and PS3 (first gen 60GB, backwards compatible)... I'll have to go with backwards compatibility. Also, they have to fill some sort of media niche other than just me gaming on 'em (because if I'm honest, my consoles do a lot of sitting around collecting dust. I've gamed primarily on PC since about 1996). The PS2 was a PS1 and DVD player when the only one I had was my computer... the Wii was a Gamecube (which I had never played before) and party game machine (also kid-friendly, so it can free up friends with such things)... and the PS3 was a PS1, PS2 and blu-ray player at a time when any other blu-ray player cost around $1000.
I also look into hardware specs a lot. I absolutely refuse to buy something with weaker hardware for more money.
I also look into hardware specs a lot. I absolutely refuse to buy something with weaker hardware for more money.