Poll: What Religion Are You?

[PureChaos]

agnostic. got some religious friends and i've gone to some of their religious meetings but haven't yet been influenced or convinced enough to become religious.

 

[li-ion]

Simply changing the language used to describe the athiestic position doesn't change the position. I hate to say it but denial means a refusal to believe or an assertion that something said/believed is false (but then even an assertion is only a claim or contention which is linguistically equivilent to a belief, it is after all only a word it doesn't carry spiritual connotations unless you put them there!), so it's still a position of belief whether you like that or not.

So the refusal to collect stamps is a hobby?

I am agnostic, since I just can't believe in something I have no proof for. I am in no church. I have no rituals and rules I follow because of some higher being. I have no holy book that I claim to be of absolute truth. So how am I religious? I don't know if there is a god, but frankly: I don't care. I do not believe there is no god. I don't care, the existence or nonexistence of an invisible man in the sky is irrelevant for me.

 

[Ghadente]

Why must athiests and Agnostics be clumped together all the time?

its understandable only due to the limited options aloud to set in polls, but otherwise i hope people quit doing it

 

[P1p3s]

Simply changing the language used to describe the athiestic position doesn't change the position. I hate to say it but denial means a refusal to believe or an assertion that something said/believed is false (but then even an assertion is only a claim or contention which is linguistically equivilent to a belief, it is after all only a word it doesn't carry spiritual connotations unless you put them there!), so it's still a position of belief whether you like that or not.

So the refusal to collect stamps is a hobby?

I am agnostic, since I just can't believe in something I have no proof for. I am in no church. I have no rituals and rules I follow because of some higher being. I have no holy book that I claim to be of absolute truth. So how am I religious? I don't know if there is a god, but frankly: I don't care. I do not believe there is no god. I don't care, the existence or nonexistence of an invisible man in the sky is irrelevant for me.

I didn't say athieism was a religion (see my joke there about a holy book - I infact made that point first)

I said it was a BELIEF - a personally held perspective, an opinion. A refusal is a standpoint in oposition to SOMETHING. No of course the refusal to collect stamps is not a hoppy, but it is a POSITION against. I have to say stamp collecting had never occured to me, I am aware of it as a passtime of other but have never considered it in any great detail, were someone to ask me if I would like to collect stamps I would have to say that I have no interest in it but no desire to burn stamps either BUT I do take a contrary position. Do I collect stamps YES or NO? NO
Do I believe there is a God - here instead there are 3 choices, YES or NO or I don't know if there is a God.
Yes = is a belief/theist
No = is a belief/ Atheist
Dunno = is neutral (for lack of a better term) it doesn't have a position for or against. This is agnostocism.

The point you quoted from me actually just refers to a difference of opinion of terminology. The word belief doesn't have any inherent relationship to religion or faith. THAT was my point.
"did jo go to the park today" - "I BELIEVE she did" I was answering someone claiming that saying they thought there was no God could not be stated as a belief and that is patently wrong. It categorically cannot be stated as a religion but it is a belief by the definition of the word belief it really isn't that complicated.

Also, please note, I have not stated which "belief" I hold or if I have any, so how about we get some perspective and read/comment on posts for what they actually contain as opposed to the deeper philosophical aims that you ASSUME the poster has.

 

[Legion]

I don't want flaming, or religion based arguments. I just curious what religion(or lack thereof) the escapist community is. I will add more based on peoples suggestions.

Seeing as it is one of the oldest religions in the world, Paganism deserves a space on there more than Scientology.

 

[ace_of_something]

I don't want flaming, or religion based arguments. I just curious what religion(or lack thereof) the escapist community is. I will add more based on peoples suggestions.

Seeing as it is one of the oldest religions in the world, Paganism deserves a space on there more than Scientology.

Paganism isn't an organized religion. It's a term that christians used for 'old' religions like druids and roman mythology. Besides modernly you'll find as many different forms of paganism as you can find pagans.
My roomate is a Pagan; or that's what he tells people...He's just practices (when his parents are around) his traditonal Native American religion. However Pagan is technically accurate.

edit: Scientology gets a space for the lawlz.

 

[bodyklok]

I know there's only six so far, but sadly as christian I'm the minority.

Oh well, usually has been the case.

Whats a chrisian? Is it like a christian, per chance? Or maybe one of theose wired, fringe religions where you have to eat a human heart?

Shut up. It's a christian and I bet you knew that. Just because The Blonde was in control and I forgot to check my spelling ONCE doesn't mean you have to jump down my throat about it.

And I will now edit it, so it's spelt correctly. Okay????

OK, I'm happy. I should say thought that I was only having a joke and not trying to horrible, so if I offended you then I'm sorry.

On-topic, I'm an atheist.

 

[li-ion]

I said it was a BELIEF - a personally held perspective, an opinion. A refusal is a standpoint in oposition to SOMETHING.

Your refusal to collect stamps might be a position against, that doesn't make you a non-stamp-collector. So I still think that a refusal to believe in god doesn't make someone a believer in no god. At least for me the world is not working binary.

Therefore calling atheism a belief just a good way to make atheists angry is in my opinion ;-)

Do I believe there is a God - here instead there are 3 choices, YES or NO or I don't know if there is a God.

I disagree. The question if you believe in god doesn't have anything to do with knowing or not knowing if there is one. I can't know if there is a god. One of the main points of belief is to trust that there is a higher being without having evidence.
I personally do not believe there is a god.
And I do not collect stamps ;-)
But I am agnostic since I can't prove it (god, not the stamps).

The point you quoted from me actually just refers to a difference of opinion of terminology. The word belief doesn't have any inherent relationship to religion or faith. THAT was my point.

In a discussion about faith and religion the term belief will always be taken in religious context. That is my point ;-)

Also, please note, I have not stated which "belief" I hold or if I have any, so how about we get some perspective and read/comment on posts for what they actually contain as opposed to the deeper philosophical aims that you ASSUME the poster has.

For our disagreement if atheism means belief your belief - if you have any - does not matter, neither does mine. I didn't state that you were believer in anything, did I? But I see that we won't agree anytime soon since we seem to have a different idea what belief means. And definitions of belief I could find online now are written in a way that it's possible to argue about for ages. And I think neither of us will see such a change of standpoint that we come to an agreement. So we agree that we disagree?

 

[Weaver]

Atheism ins't a religion

Atheism is a religion like off is a channel on your TV.

That's hilarious. And so true. Good analogy Kirby.

Analogies are my trade secret!

 

[The Oddfellow]

I'm agnostic I believe there is no way of proving God exists or doesn't exist.
(I'm trying my hardest to have a good time in life and not to go to hell =D )

 

[Blow_Pop]

just like roman catholics(my apologies if i offend anyone with this its actually a stab at my own family)get offended sometimes when you say they are of the christian faith and christians sometimes get offended when you compare them to other religions of the christian faith such as judaism. i had the most lovely childhood. hence no christianity!

Roman Catholicism is a denomination of christianity. I'm pretty sure that's not just my opinion either, thats a fact, or as close to fact as things can be in matters of faith. Are your RC family really offended at being called christian? cos if you wanted to you could probably shut them down with a researched definition.

Also Judaism is most definately not of the christian faith. The central tenet of christianity is in the name: "Christ". by definition to be a christian you HAVE to believe that christ was the son of god. Judaism doesn't hold with that. Christianity certainly was born from judaism, but they aren't the same thing.

Although, I did once see people handing out flyers for "Jews for Jesus". I'd be interested to know their belief structure, and whether they ever got popular.

Oh but apparently it is in college. at least out here where i live. I have tried and they've told me that i'm just spreading lies....also i'm damned to burn in hell...i keep telling them i'm saving them all a seat right next to me.....then again, you have to believe in hell to go there right?

 

[Curiosity's Cat]

just like roman catholics(my apologies if i offend anyone with this its actually a stab at my own family)get offended sometimes when you say they are of the christian faith and christians sometimes get offended when you compare them to other religions of the christian faith such as judaism. i had the most lovely childhood. hence no christianity!

Roman Catholicism is a denomination of christianity. I'm pretty sure that's not just my opinion either, thats a fact, or as close to fact as things can be in matters of faith. Are your RC family really offended at being called christian? cos if you wanted to you could probably shut them down with a researched definition.

Also Judaism is most definately not of the christian faith. The central tenet of christianity is in the name: "Christ". by definition to be a christian you HAVE to believe that christ was the son of god. Judaism doesn't hold with that. Christianity certainly was born from judaism, but they aren't the same thing.

Although, I did once see people handing out flyers for "Jews for Jesus". I'd be interested to know their belief structure, and whether they ever got popular.

Oh but apparently it is in college. at least out here where i live. I have tried and they've told me that i'm just spreading lies....also i'm damned to burn in hell...i keep telling them i'm saving them all a seat right next to me.....then again, you have to believe in hell to go there right?

Good god. Well, hang on 'til graduation I guess, then get on the next train going somewhere more interesting. I do not envy you.

 

[IxionIndustries]

I believe that there are many gods, so mine would have to be kinda like a mythology.
However, my afterlife belief system is reincarnation. Seems plausible, ya know?

 

[irishstormtrooper]

I don't see why atheist and agnostic are the same choice. I understand the lack of space, but the two are very different.

 

[xanith02100]

I am offended that atheism and agnosticism are the same poll option. =/

Anyways, I am agnostic. I respect people that use faith to motivate their lives, but it simply isn't important to me. I'd like to think that there is something after this life, but I'll worry about that when I am dying and busy myself with worrying about living while I am living.

 

[Charli]

Is it really necissary to lump atheists in with Agnostics?


Agnostic...NOT athiest. Theres a large difference.

 

[Blow_Pop]

just like roman catholics(my apologies if i offend anyone with this its actually a stab at my own family)get offended sometimes when you say they are of the christian faith and christians sometimes get offended when you compare them to other religions of the christian faith such as judaism. i had the most lovely childhood. hence no christianity!

Roman Catholicism is a denomination of christianity. I'm pretty sure that's not just my opinion either, thats a fact, or as close to fact as things can be in matters of faith. Are your RC family really offended at being called christian? cos if you wanted to you could probably shut them down with a researched definition.

Also Judaism is most definately not of the christian faith. The central tenet of christianity is in the name: "Christ". by definition to be a christian you HAVE to believe that christ was the son of god. Judaism doesn't hold with that. Christianity certainly was born from judaism, but they aren't the same thing.

Although, I did once see people handing out flyers for "Jews for Jesus". I'd be interested to know their belief structure, and whether they ever got popular.

Oh but apparently it is in college. at least out here where i live. I have tried and they've told me that i'm just spreading lies....also i'm damned to burn in hell...i keep telling them i'm saving them all a seat right next to me.....then again, you have to believe in hell to go there right?

Good god. Well, hang on 'til graduation I guess, then get on the next train going somewhere more interesting. I do not envy you.

meh i'm use to it. i had to drop out shortly after that class due to finances. soon as i get money i can go back.

 

[Caliostro]

I just curious what religion(or lack thereof) the escapist community is

...Kinda insulted Agnostics are on the same boat as atheists... I'm an atheist, not an agnostic.

 

[Soulreaverm]

I love how it goes Atheist/Agnostic, Christian... Satanic.
Satanism is more highly represented among Escapists than any religion but Christianity.
This is pretending there weren't people who looked at the poll, thought "LOLOL SATANIC" and voted.

I just curious what religion(or lack thereof) the escapist community is

...Kinda insulted Agnostics are on the same boat as atheists... I'm an atheist, not an agnostic.

I thought the same, there is a big difference and I don't think they should be grouped, but hey, there's only so much space on the poll.

 

[Naish]

Oh dear - I think the 'refusal to discuss' lies with you. While I appreciate your comment, and your right to your opinion I can't agree with your assessment.

It's true, I don't like to discuss it, because religious discussions often infuriate both parties .

I think the problem with that "We cannot prove that there is no god" is the fact that people who WANT to believe, don't even see that the saying is 50/50. Instead of "See? There could be a god" the argument from a hypothetical person is suddenly "SEE? YOU CAN'T PROVE IT, THERE IS ONE, THERE IS ONE AND IT BELONGS TO MY RELIGION AND NO ONE ELSES". Despite the lack of proof on their part, if I can't prove it doesn't exist, it suddenly exists, though without any proof whatsoever(I refuse acknowledge most man-made literature as a sign, honesty is NOT something you can trust in, not when there are so many religious beliefs that contradict each other.)

To an Atheist, the word is actually knowledge. I'm SURE that there is no higher power. It is not a faith. It is not "I don't believe there is a higher power". Until it exists, it simply does not. And you're very welcome to prove me wrong, but until you can, I'm not interested. Clearly, an omniscient being cannot exist, or we would all have its full attention (and if a god was not omniscient, then what right does that give it to call itself a god?).

Faith and belief are similar words, but different. Don't try and be cute by mixing them up.