Poll: What should "We Dare" be rated?

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

How about we trust that the rating board did their job. They judged the game's contents, NOT what an adult mght turn it into. They can't be blamed for a stupid ad Freuding the game up.

 

[Jonesy911]

T for Terrible

 

[Skratt]

I think Ubisoft is competing with EA in the shitty advert dept. *waves flag*

 

[hutchy27]

it wouldn't look as sexual if instead of putting the controller down the skirts then just held it out and tapped it. So the only sexual part is how you can play it not the game play as for as I seen.

 

[Sparrow]

If Thomas the Tank Engine was marketed as some sort of high class porno (bear with me here), but the actual show obviously didn't contain any of that, would you then expect the show itself to be rated for adults only?

That begs the question why anyone would market it that way in the first place if not to pull in the porn-loving crowd.

Irrelevant.

Would you then expect the show itself to be rated for adults only?

Actually, I don't find it to be irrelevant when you attach the said example to the topic in question. If the game is meant for kids, why market it in a fashion that makes it adult orientated?

 

[Woodsey]

If Thomas the Tank Engine was marketed as some sort of high class porno (bear with me here), but the actual show obviously didn't contain any of that, would you then expect the show itself to be rated for adults only?

That begs the question why anyone would market it that way in the first place if not to pull in the porn-loving crowd.

Irrelevant.

Would you then expect the show itself to be rated for adults only?

Actually, I don't find it to be irrelevant when you attach the said example to the topic in question. If the game is meant for kids, why market it in a fashion that makes it adult orientated?

The point is its been marketed in a way that doesn't actually show what the thing being marketed is like. Using a sexualised example just helps make it more relevant to what we're discussing, and because you don't change age ratings when a tragedy is marketed as a comedy, or whatever.

Would you then expect the show itself to be rated for adults only?

 

[Sparrow]

Would you then expect the show itself to be rated for adults only?

I would expect it to be blammed to the deep circles of hell for being so utterly ridiculous. The point your using is twisted and inane (which is a fancy word) - if you don't play the game that way, you don't market it that way. Why would you pull your market in only to decieve them?

 

[Woodsey]

Would you then expect the show itself to be rated for adults only?

I would expect it to be blammed to the deep circles of hell for being so utterly ridiculous. The point your using is twisted and inane (which is a fancy word) - if you don't play the game that way, you don't market it that way. Why would you pull your market in only to decieve them?

Gee, I wonder why you'd market something to one group, but also make it tame enough to be played by another, younger group, who are probably more likely to own Wiis (SALES!).

What you're suggesting is that a game's age rating is increased, based solely on its marketing campaign. Watch the gameplay in the trailer, and ignore all the other crap. They're eating an apple, and then they hold hands flying round a castle.

15+? FOR THAT?

The age rating is saying that its suitable for people 12 and over, they don't give a crap about who its marketed to, because they're not rating the adverts.

The Dead Space 2 marketing campaign was aimed at 14-year-olds, yet that was awarded an 18+.

The point I was using is perfectly relevant, but simply exaggerated to help you see the point I was making - which you obviously can't, since you're incapable of answering the question.

 

[loc978]

We've seen very little actual gameplay footage. All we really know is that it looks like a fairly typical Wii party game on the screen, and it's being advertised as a sort of "spin the bottle" game.
I'm going to answer with "not enough information to make this decision".

 

[TheGuiggleMonster]

1) there is no 15+ rating. There are 3+ 7+ 12+ 16+ and 18+.
2) How could a game possibly be rated for content that it doesn't have?

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

yeah true, that's not what my point was getting at, yes the game has some very "lite" mature sexual functions, but if your squabbling over your kids getting it, then you really need to take a reality check because withOUT the game i see kids (and like i said, have done myself) much more and worse than that around that age, so the game's rating is not much of a matter to me, although i don't think it should really be in the hands of 6-7 year olds, as it would make near zero sense to them at the time and we don't need to pervert our youth that badly =]

Kids "discovering" (might not be the best word) their sexual side (again, this all sounds a little weird) is all good to me (really, out of context this is horrible) as long as it's a natural progression. Teenagers are going to be interested in sex, and that's fine. It's natural, as I said before. The focus on it in a video game, however, still strikes me as bit off. I just think kids should find all that stuff on their own, not through stroking a Wiimote with their face.

I myself would probably sway toward a 15+ rating. I don't usually find myself agreeing with the mass opinion when ratings of games come into question, but in this case I think 12+ is a bit too low.

And you've played the game, like that mass of people, have you?

If it's rated as a 12, then that's because there's nothing in there that's not appropriate for a 12-year-old. How its marketed is irrelevant, because that's not what they're rating.

If you look at the gameplay clips in the ad, it seems pretty clear that the only sexual undertones are coming from the advert itself. Two people try to eat an apple in one, and the other one they're flying.

Big fucking whoop. If they want to spank each other whilst they're tapping the remote then more power to them.

Though the game is "tame" by the standards of visuals and gameplay mechanics (you dont have to put the controler in her ass and spank her im sure laying it down on a table and hitting it will work?) its intended reception, audience and overall feel of the game leans it towards a adult and or swingers party, who the hell at PEGI thought 12 year olds like to swing?.

They rate it on who the content is appropriate for - the game isn't rated based on what age group might like it.

You'd think a bunch of gamers would know how age ratings work.

Well done, you've won the award of most hostile user of the month. Feel proud.

Relating to your point however, just as I did in the part of the post you snipped out, I agree that I don't have much to base this on. It's just a trailer for a cheesy piece of shovelware. What I'm getting at however is that I wouldn't want my kids playing the game in that fashion (not that I have any), which they would be allowed to do by purchasing the game legally. Whether the rating will change or not is not my point, it's more my opinion on whether or not the content we've been shown deserves a higher rating.

His point was that the content itself is deserving of a 12+. What people might do with that is irrelevant to the content itself. The ad cannot affect the rating. Have you played it? The rating board has, so how about we trust that they can do what they are paid to do.

 

[Sparrow]

Gee, I wonder why you'd market something to one group, but also make it tame enough to be played by another, younger group, who are probably more likely to own Wiis (SALES!).

What you're suggesting is that a game's age rating is increased, based solely on its marketing campaign. Watch the gameplay in the trailer, and ignore all the other crap. They're eating an apple, and then they hold hands flying round a castle.

15+? FOR THAT?

The age rating is saying that its suitable for people 12 and over, they don't give a crap about who its marketed to.

The point I was using is perfectly relevant, but simply exaggerated to help you see the point I was making - which you obviously can't, since you're incapable of answering a simple question.

Yes, again, well done for being hostile. Honestly, what's the point of acting the way you do?

Also - "What you're suggesting is that a game's age rating is increased, based solely on its marketing campaign" - I never said that, you're talking the words out of my mouth. What I was getting at is that I doubt this game is any way geared toward gameplay for kids. Your argument is that the advert is not an actual representation of what the game will be like, which is hypocritical when you factor in your previous point that I can't say what the game will be like never having played it. Your searching for an argument that doesn't exist, as I'm basing my opinion on what the game from the ADVERT would be rated as - which is pretty sexually fueled.

 

[Jadak]

From the gameplay shown, there's not much for adult content actually in it, just a bunch of moronic behaviour involved on behalf of the players, and from my experience with the Wii, I doubt their "methods" of control work all that well anyways (or rather, they might work just fine, but are highly unnecessary and simply holding the controller probably works just as well).

 

[Woodsey]

Gee, I wonder why you'd market something to one group, but also make it tame enough to be played by another, younger group, who are probably more likely to own Wiis (SALES!).

What you're suggesting is that a game's age rating is increased, based solely on its marketing campaign. Watch the gameplay in the trailer, and ignore all the other crap. They're eating an apple, and then they hold hands flying round a castle.

15+? FOR THAT?

The age rating is saying that its suitable for people 12 and over, they don't give a crap about who its marketed to.

The point I was using is perfectly relevant, but simply exaggerated to help you see the point I was making - which you obviously can't, since you're incapable of answering a simple question.

Yes, again, well done for being hostile. Honestly, what's the point of acting the way you do?

Also - "What you're suggesting is that a game's age rating is increased, based solely on its marketing campaign" - I never said that, you're talking the words out of my mouth. What I was getting at is that I doubt this game is any way geared toward gameplay for kids. Your argument is that the advert is not an actual representation of what the game will be like, which is hypocritical when you factor in your previous point that I can't say what the game will be like never having played it. Your searching for an argument that doesn't exist, as I'm basing my opinion on what the game from the ADVERT would be rated as - which is pretty sexually fueled.

"Yes, again, well done for being hostile. Honestly, what's the point of acting the way you do?"

Because you're being obtuse on purpose - I gave you a relevant example and a simple question, and all you could do was question it back (beyond relevance) and not answer the question back.

I'm basing my argument off the rating it has been given, and what little of it you can see in the trailer. Looks like any old Wii game, and given the rating, we can assume that it is in fact, any old Wii game. People who have played it, and who rate games for a living, are saying its content is perfectly fine for anyone who is 12 or over.

That's it. End of argument.

Only, you're surmising that because the advert is aiming itself at being "sexy", it should therefore be rated as such, even if it isn't.

And that last part - are you kidding me? You created a thread to question what people would rate the game if it was really based around spanking each other, as opposed to what the game is actually like? Well then what is the point in that?

I could play Wii Golf with a girl, and do my best to rub myself up against her arse. Just because I'm playing that way doesn't mean there's anything like that in the content of the game, and that is EXACTLY what is going on with this game and its advert.

 

[Jamash]

I hardly know anything about the game but if it's anything like the trailer suggests, then it should be rated PEGI 16, which is in line with the age of consent.

Even is the gameplay doesn't warrant it, if it truly is a adult sex party game people couldn't complain about it encouraging under-age sex if it's rated 16.

However, this is only for this game and only if it really is a sex party game. I'm not suggesting that driving games should be rated 17, and any game with alcohol consumption should be an 18.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

If Thomas the Tank Engine was marketed as some sort of high class porno (bear with me here), but the actual show obviously didn't contain any of that, would you then expect the show itself to be rated for adults only?

well you know..pierce brosnan is the narrator now, so there could be underlying persuasions in the dialogue ;]

 

[Woodsey]

If Thomas the Tank Engine was marketed as some sort of high class porno (bear with me here), but the actual show obviously didn't contain any of that, would you then expect the show itself to be rated for adults only?

well you know..pierce brosnan is the narrator now, so there could be underlying persuasions in the dialogue ;]

Did not know that xD Just looked at him recording some stuff on Youtube, and now it all sounds sexual.

 

[WonderWillard]

Well I guess that it's only fair, after having the emotionally-charged amazingness that was the Dead Island trailer a few weeks ago, we get the most painful, cringe-inducing retardedness that was this trailer.

 

[Sparrow]

And that last part - are you kidding me? You created a thread to question what people would rate the game if it was really based around spanking each other, as opposed to what the game is actually like? Well then what is the point in that?

I could play Wii Golf with a girl, and do my best to rub myself up against her arse. Just because I'm playing that way doesn't mean there's anything like that in the content of the game, and that is EXACTLY what is going on with this game and its advert.

To answer you last question, it's because I believe that the actual game will be as such. The emphasis on gameplay from the trailer is based on being sexual, therefore it is not ridiculous to assume that this is the way you will actually be instructed to play the damn game. It's called "We Dare".

Now, unless you can discuss something without the need to act like an ass, this discussion is over. I was looking for people's reasons for their justification of rating, not a pointless argument in which you try your best to be overly hostile and attack my opinion.

 

[Xanadu84]

If I can extrapolate the ideas in the game from this trailer, then I say give it an M rating. Why? Well, because 12 year old's CAN PLAY GAMES RATED M! This isn't alcohol, where the neighbors might hear some kids playing their Wii too loudly, call the cops, and suddenly kids are going to court, and parents are getting calls placed to Social Services. No, a Mature rating just means that if a kid wants the game, a parent is going to have to be in the store, look at the game, and give the cashier the okay. And you know what? I think that's perfectly reasonable. We all talk a big game about Parent Responsibility when it comes to video games. I say we practice what we preach. A game where there is even the implication that someone is supposed to, say, spank my hypothetical teenage daughter, is a game where I want to know what she's buying. And if she did want to buy this game, I would probably let her. I would also have a serious discussion with her about how she plans on playing this game, and set boundary's for her as a parent. It would give me the opportunity to be more involved in her life, and work with her to make good choices. And isn't that what its all about?