Hear-fucking-hear.nightmare_gorilla said:Honestly, i have no idea where the controversy over the word "gamer" came from. were people this divided on it before the recent dust up if so this is the first i've heard of it. gameing has always been my hobby and as such i'm a gamer, i'm also a comic book nerd, a metal head, and a film guru. there is an equivilent term in almost every hobby. gearhead, sports fan, bookworm, all that good stuff. I grew up in an environment that being a "gamer" was a bad thing, I was a nerd and as such the jocks and other idiots picked on and bullied me. I "identify" as a gamer because i'm not ashamed of it and some internet slap fight between misandrists and a subset of gamers isn't going to make me ashamed of something i do on a daily basis. the thing i learned the most from being bullied in middle/high school is that if you're ashamed of something you genuinely enjoy doing then the bullies have won. so fuck it, be as loud a gamer as you want to be, same goes for being gay or trans or a comic book nerd or anything else that dumbasses like to single you out for, the way you win is by enjoying it more and enjoying it louder.
While you might identify others as gamers it doesn't mean they don't identify themselves as gamers to others.Vigormortis said:Hear-fucking-hear.nightmare_gorilla said:Honestly, i have no idea where the controversy over the word "gamer" came from. were people this divided on it before the recent dust up if so this is the first i've heard of it. gameing has always been my hobby and as such i'm a gamer, i'm also a comic book nerd, a metal head, and a film guru. there is an equivilent term in almost every hobby. gearhead, sports fan, bookworm, all that good stuff. I grew up in an environment that being a "gamer" was a bad thing, I was a nerd and as such the jocks and other idiots picked on and bullied me. I "identify" as a gamer because i'm not ashamed of it and some internet slap fight between misandrists and a subset of gamers isn't going to make me ashamed of something i do on a daily basis. the thing i learned the most from being bullied in middle/high school is that if you're ashamed of something you genuinely enjoy doing then the bullies have won. so fuck it, be as loud a gamer as you want to be, same goes for being gay or trans or a comic book nerd or anything else that dumbasses like to single you out for, the way you win is by enjoying it more and enjoying it louder.
It's humorous to me that so many here seem absolutely adamant about saying, "I'm not a gamer! I'm not a gamer! Now excuse me while I go post comment after comment on a GAMING-CENTRIC FORUM."
The lack of self-awareness is hilarious.
Better question: Why give the power over what defines you to others? Why let them define what the labels mean?Abomination said:One person's definition of a gamer is different to anothers' so why use a label for yourself that you believe has a high probability of being misdiagnosed by others?
I has nothing to do with power but everything to do with perception.Vigormortis said:Better question: Why give the power over what defines you to others? Why let them define what the labels mean?Abomination said:One person's definition of a gamer is different to anothers' so why use a label for yourself that you believe has a high probability of being misdiagnosed by others?
Just because some assholes decided the word is synonymous with "sexism" and "racism" doesn't mean that it actually is. And it certainly doesn't mean we, as gamers, should capitulate to their lunacy by avoiding the word altogether.
And as I said before, I don't care if people don't want to use the word for themselves. That's fine. That wasn't the point of my previous posts.
Anyone who makes the assumption that someone is sexist when they haven't any proof is an ignorant asshole, don't think for a second that others outside the hobby cannot be critised as well. Seriously, would you make that assumption about gamers?Abomination said:I has nothing to do with power but everything to do with perception.
Others opinions matter and if their definition of a gamer is different to what gamer means to you then it's best to not use a label with so many negative connotations with others.
I wouldn't introduce myself as a gamer to a potential employer so I wouldn't introduce myself as a gamer to anyone else. I also don't like pigeonholing myself into a group that consists of individuals I do not agree with.
I've met people that play only table tops(CCGs, boardgames, model wargames) and have called themselves 'Gamers'. To me it doesn't matter what you play or how often. So game on buddy.Johnny Novgorod said:I don't. Not for lack of actual gaming, rest assured. I just don't relate to the term or the community from a consumer standpoint.
I don't pre-order, I don't download, I don't own digital, I don't buy peripherals, I don't play online and I'm always one or two generations behind.