Pretty much this, when I moved from the country to the city I was amazed at how many people openly condemn hunting. Most are completely ignorant of what hunting actually is actually like, and the actual effects to the ecosystem (most are simply environmentalist to the point that it's pretty much their religion).SODAssault said:Always. Hunting within season is beneficial to the ecosystem, as it keeps animal populations under control. The motivation is irrelevant.
EDIT: It's also worth noting that certain methods of hunting are strictly prohibited if they are likely to result in an inhumane kill. This includes the banning of certain firearm calibers if they are considered underpowered for the game they are being used to hunt. Just because unethical hunters are a statistical certainty doesn't mean that hunting itself is an unethical practice.
Challenge Accepted....How thick is a bears skull by the way and will a bowie knife do the trick?!koether said:Yup, I totally support people hunting animals. Seems fine, seeing as animals hunt each other all the time and its perfectly natural.
The thing that throws off this equation is the unnatural use of firearms, which quickly removes any sense of fairness or sport from the equation.
If you want to hunt I totally support you, but first I'm going to strip you down, take your gun, hand you a switchblade, and then point you towards the nearest bear. Best of luck macho man.
Hmmm how pedantic of you.fix-the-spade said:I clicked for sport, just to be pedantic.
I can definately see where you're coming from. I say it's best to hunt for food, but not for any reasons of elitism. I see no point in wasting food, hide, and antlers (using a deer or elk as an example) that can be used really. I went hunting with a friend once, and what he didn't eat, he sold to be eaten.Subzerowings said:What's wrong with hunting?
It's not like animals are reluctant to kill other species, so why should we be?
Don't try to turn this on me by saying something like: "We are the more evolved species, we should not lower ourselves to their level."
That's grade A elitism right there.
am i better than the mass murdering psycopath from outer-space? ....... yeahPayJ567 said:I really want to go hunting but noone will go with me cause everyone apparently cares for wood pigeons and shit. I mean what the fuck, why can't I shoot them, what the fuck is so wrong with hunting? Predator does it, are you saying you're better than predator?
interspark said:am i better than the mass murdering psycopath from outer-space? ....... yeahPayJ567 said:I really want to go hunting but noone will go with me cause everyone apparently cares for wood pigeons and shit. I mean what the fuck, why can't I shoot them, what the fuck is so wrong with hunting? Predator does it, are you saying you're better than predator?
never!!! i feel a need to quote doctor who here "they have guns!" "and i dont! which makes me the better person, dont you agree? the can shoot me dead but the moral highground is mine"PayJ567 said:That's a god damn lie and you know it is. Now repent heathen!interspark said:am i better than the mass murdering psycopath from outer-space? ....... yeahPayJ567 said:I really want to go hunting but noone will go with me cause everyone apparently cares for wood pigeons and shit. I mean what the fuck, why can't I shoot them, what the fuck is so wrong with hunting? Predator does it, are you saying you're better than predator?
well, of course here we must define "better", he could definately kick my ass but i bet "so i was underground skewering these explorers this time and..." isn't a very good opener for picking up girlsMadara XIII said:Do you have an invisibility cloak and kick ass weapons?.....I think the answer is pretty obvious here
Predator > Humans.... Seriously it took 8 of them to kill just 3 in the new one
That's a serious disadvantage XD
im gonna stop you there, as the most populated animal species on the planet, no human has any right to excecute another animal for over population. if we had any sense of justice, we'd all take shotguns into the local town with us and just go trigger crazy for ten minutes before picking up the milkGame4Fun said:When its to control the population?
Hmmm a little condemning aren't we? (No I don't support killing animals for fun) No the worst kind of scum is the people who hunt other people for sport or mass murderers.. you get the idea.interspark said:hunting is acceptable once you can watch War of the Worlds and say "yeah, what those aliens are doing is fair", because that's what we do to animals, every day, and it makes me sick. i think people who huny solely for sport are the worst kind of scum, they think an animal should die just for some brief entertainment
(in case you can't tell, i'm a vegetarian)
interspark said:well, of course here we must define "better", he could definately kick my ass but i bet "so i was underground skewering these explorers this time and..." isn't a very good opener for picking up girlsMadara XIII said:Do you have an invisibility cloak and kick ass weapons?.....I think the answer is pretty obvious here
Predator > Humans.... Seriously it took 8 of them to kill just 3 in the new one
That's a serious disadvantage XD
Why does it need to be natural? Anyway isn't it sorta natural. Because animals invented it? Rait?koether said:Yup, I totally support people hunting animals. Seems fine, seeing as animals hunt each other all the time and its perfectly natural.
The thing that throws off this equation is the unnatural use of firearms, which quickly removes any sense of fairness or sport from the equation.
If you want to hunt I totally support you, but first I'm going to strip you down, take your gun, hand you a switchblade, and then point you towards the nearest bear. Best of luck macho man.
o'contrare, i'd happily die knowing that my life wasn't a burden to anyone else, as opposed to dying knowing that, if there is a hell, i've got some SERIOUS explaining to doPayJ567 said:The moral high ground means nothing when you have a smoking creator where your face used to be.
The better person is the one left standing not the one who died like a dog.