Poll: Which is the more morally acceptable?

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Yassen

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I was reading in article in New Scientist today about how people consider this moral question.

Which is more morally acceptable? To kill by accident or to try and kill but fail?

So I bring this question to you Escapist, what do you consider the most acceptable? (As a side note, the article said that those with brain impaired in regions key to feeling emotion or divining the intention of others always said the second scenario was the most acceptable. So if that's what you choose I'm afraid you have brain damage.)
 

Radeonx

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To kill by accident.
Because you weren't intentionally meaning harm. It isn't all necessarily your fault, where you tried to hurt someone but failed to kill them.
 

Enigmers

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Well, if you try and kill, but fail, that implies you're not trying anymore, which means you've stopped.
 

Blatherscythe

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Accidental homicide or attemped homicide? I'd say attempted homicide is worse, sure you didn't kill anyone but you had the intention to do so, accidental homicide is just as the name implies, an accidental death.
 

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By accident, sure some one dies but its about morals, so no one broke any moral values, its no ones fault and now one is to blame.

Think about who you would through in jail, someone who (in this case) truly killed by accident, or someone who wants to kill some one by choice. The decision is a obvious.
 

Marine Mike

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I find that failing at something like killing someone completely unacceptable in every way, so I guess morally would be included. I guess if you're decided on killing somebody but then for whatever reason decide not to go through with it you are compromising your own values which is just wrong. I of course don't see the killing of other people to be inherently wrong morally, its when you kill for morally wrong reasons. So I unofficially vote for option #3: Killing someone on purpose for a good reason.
 

Yassen

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The second one. Because, you know, if you kill someone by accident then, regardless of your intentions, that person is still dead. It's the outcome of your actions that's important, not your desires or intentions.

Alternatively, I might just be massively fucked-up.
It's interesting isn't it? These days the intention is all that matters, never the outcome.
 

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Radeonx said:
To kill by accident.
Because you weren't intentionally meaning harm. It isn't all necessarily your fault, where you tried to hurt someone but failed to kill them.
Drunk Driving.

Still acceptable? NOO. 100% preventable.
 

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firedfns13 said:
Radeonx said:
To kill by accident.
Because you weren't intentionally meaning harm. It isn't all necessarily your fault, where you tried to hurt someone but failed to kill them.
Drunk Driving.

Still acceptable? NOO. 100% preventable.
Drunk driving doesn't always result in death.
And, did I say it was acceptable? All I said that it was better than trying to kill someone.
 

Stoic raptor

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The 1st. You didnt mean to kill, although that dosnt mean that your innocent.

In the 2nd, even though no one died, someone was intended to die, and the intended murdurer might try to kill again.
 

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Radeonx said:
firedfns13 said:
Radeonx said:
To kill by accident.
Because you weren't intentionally meaning harm. It isn't all necessarily your fault, where you tried to hurt someone but failed to kill them.
Drunk Driving.

Still acceptable? NOO. 100% preventable.
Drunk driving doesn't always result in death.
And, did I say it was acceptable? All I said that it was better than trying to kill someone.
I wonder what you'd think of this. I don't look at all accidents as equal. Take these two.

1- You've just thrown a bunch of trash into a large compactor, and flipped the switch to activate it, not realizing that some homeless guy has wormed his way halfway into the compactor through a small(ish) gap, and is looking for non-crushed items. (I almost did this to someone, but heard the idiot before flipping the switch)

2- You're a surgeon, responsible for a patient from when you cut them to when you sew them back up. You leave debris in a patient, providing a focal point for infection, and the patient goes septic and dies a short time after the surgery. (Had to throw this in for those who think medical types shouldn't be sued/jailed for carelessness)

My take is that, in #1, part of the standard operating procedure for the compactor was not to stop and listen for dumpster divers before flipping the switch. If someone was killed by it, that person would have had to deliberately place his/herself in danger, and short of walking around the building and looking for homeless people in the compactor (which as far as I know only happened this once), there was no way to be sure that someone wasn't there every single time the thing was operated. It was operated frequently. I would not hold the accidental killer responsible in #1.

In #2, while something like this is easy to do, it is the surgeons job to make sure nothing is left in the patient that shouldn't be there. They get paid to do a job that, if done wrong, can kill you. You can also die from many complications which the surgeon has no control over, but I believe that if it is something that could have been prevented by due dilligence, then that person is every bit as responsible as a deliberate killer.

In short, if there is nothing that the accidental killer could have reasonably done to prevent the death of someone, I don't hold them responsible at all. If it's due to some kind of negligence (like the drunk driver/careless surgeon), then they might as well have planned it.
 

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To kill by accident, to me, is generally more morally acceptable than trying, and failing, to kill someone.
 

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Radeonx said:
firedfns13 said:
Radeonx said:
To kill by accident.
Because you weren't intentionally meaning harm. It isn't all necessarily your fault, where you tried to hurt someone but failed to kill them.
Drunk Driving.

Still acceptable? NOO. 100% preventable.
Drunk driving doesn't always result in death.
And, did I say it was acceptable? All I said that it was better than trying to kill someone.
Maybe I'm a sociopath, but I think it's more acceptable to try and kill someone than to kill someone through drunk driving. At least if you're trying to kill someone you have been motivated somehow. Accidental deaths are completely innocent people in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 

Lullabye

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o_O ohhh, interesting.

Well, All I know is this. I could forgive someone if they killed me by accident(I know it doesn't make sense).
AS for the whole "Drunk driving" scenario. Well, let me out it this way.....you went out drinking, with the thought of getting drunk. Now you are. And unless you live under a rock, you know what happens when you drink and drive.
So, if you hit me, you'd better kill me because I'm gonna kill you if you don't.
There's a difference between "Accident" and "Fucking stupid".
Really, it just comes down to common sense.
Earnest accident? Fine.
Attempt to kill me? Well, if you failed it's because I killed you first. Asshole.
Getting high and then doing something dangerous where innocent people can get killed? Be ready to take responsibility.
 
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To kill and fail means the intent was there. To kill by accident was just that, an accident
EDIT and I agree with @Lullabye on the whole drink driving angle