Poll: Which series has the best writing: Persona vs. Mass Effect

Kevlar Eater

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I've never played ant of the Perosna games, so for me Mass Effect wins by default. I have fonder memories of ME3's multiplayer than I do the third game, with the exception of Citadel.
 

The_Scrivener

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Persona wins for me because the overall storyform for those games, esp. 3, is so great and symbolic and rich. ME, while it does have good writing on a conversational basis, still falls into a million different sci-fi tropes we've all seen and at the end of the day, it's still about a space soldier shooting shit. It just happens to be the best and most rewarding to play example of a space soldier shooting shit.

Also Mass Effect 3 was phoned in so there's that.
 

Strain42

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Depends on which Persona games we're talking about.

Persona 4 had pretty weak writing in terms of the story (the game did have a pretty good script. It was good with dialogue, but awful with story)

The fact that they openly admitted that they changed who the murderer was near the end of production which means they had to pull some reasons out of their ass as to why it was this person and remove all clues that pointed to anybody is a pretty strong example of bad writing.

I've never played Mass Effect beyond the first couple hours of the first game in which case I stopped playing because I was bored, so I can't really comment on their writing.

Persona 2 though has one of the best written stories in video games.

Overall I'm going to give this to Persona just because I'm much more familiar with their writing, but I just want it on record that I'm aware of several cases where the series had pretty bad writing (P3 is my favorite in the series and even it had a few "Wow...someone got paid to write that?" moments)
 

Al-Bundy-da-G

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Mmm... Let's compare two similar characters shall we, say children?

First there's Nanako from Persona 4


Then there's Starchild from Mass Effect 3


I don't know it seems pretty close...
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
CrazyCapnMorgan said:
OMG, Persona. Though the first 2 games really didn't quite nail it home, Persona 3 and its extension Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 Golden and Persona 4 Arena (which is a fighting game but is STILL canonical to the RPGs) stories all mesh together into one beautiful story. Granted, the link between 3 and 4 doesn't become relevant until the protagonist from 4 interacts enough with Margaret from the Velvet Room, though it does become more intertwined when playing Persona 4 Arena.

I think that just the fact that Persona has a followable, canonical story between 2 RPGs and a fighting game alone deserves it the acknowledgment of having a superior story to Mass Effect.

Also, I don't think Commander Shepard could take on Mara. Nor would any of his squadmates. But that's just my
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I just wanted to commend you for having the best avatar that I have ever seen.
What's his avatar from? Digit on? Soma kinna PS1 or SEGA JRPG I would be very interested in playing?
 

Hectix777

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Asclepion said:
Persona wins by default due to the utter disaster that was the Mass Effect 3 ending.

I'm referring of course to the catalyst: who gets my vote for the worst character in gaming history.

Why: quite simply, he single-handedly symbolizes the abandoning of Mass Effect's central design idea, theme, and even narrative cohesion. And he does all this in the space of a mere 14 lines of dialogue: unraveling a 150+ hour experience in less than five minutes.
Well what if the Bioware went with the original ending? The one with dark energy? You heard about the original ending right?
 

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Taking the series as a whole Persona wins the fuck out of that.

Although I do think that Mass Effect 1 has the best writing of any of the individual games. But Mass Effect 2 has no plot and Mass Effect 3 is painful. No it is pain. The writing in ME3 is the embodiment of all things bad and wrong with the world today. Then if you include Citadel the writing in Mass Effect becomes worse than one million babies committing suicide.

So yeah Persona wins. Hard.

But why wasn't Record of Agarest War on the list?
Or the Tales games? That's the competition I'd like to see fought out.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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Hectix777 said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
CrazyCapnMorgan said:
OMG, Persona. Though the first 2 games really didn't quite nail it home, Persona 3 and its extension Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 Golden and Persona 4 Arena (which is a fighting game but is STILL canonical to the RPGs) stories all mesh together into one beautiful story. Granted, the link between 3 and 4 doesn't become relevant until the protagonist from 4 interacts enough with Margaret from the Velvet Room, though it does become more intertwined when playing Persona 4 Arena.

I think that just the fact that Persona has a followable, canonical story between 2 RPGs and a fighting game alone deserves it the acknowledgment of having a superior story to Mass Effect.

Also, I don't think Commander Shepard could take on Mara. Nor would any of his squadmates. But that's just my
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I just wanted to commend you for having the best avatar that I have ever seen.
What's his avatar from? Digit on? Soma kinna PS1 or SEGA JRPG I would be very interested in playing?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandia_(video_game)
It is a RPG for the PS1 that I'm pretty sure is on the PSN for 10$
It was one of my favorite games growing up.
 

TheRaggedQueen

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Gonna go against the grain and say Mass Effect. Aside from that horrible ending, it was an otherwise well-written series, with relatable, fleshed-out characters and a fairly consistent story. Had 3 actually managed to keep up continuity and show some of the development the characters had gone through from the first two games, along with not stomping on the established laws and whatnot, would've ensured that the series remained a golden god amongst the mainstream gaming community.

The problem with comparing Persona against ME is that you're essentially trying to compare about three different stories against one. Persona 1 and 2 had a distant, still arguably tangible connection to each other, but have almost no bearing outside of some references in 3. 4 takes a trip down memory lane for the sake of pandering to 3's fans, but ultimately is its own separate story as well, and it isn't until Arena that main characters between the two really interact. While I haven't play P1 and P2, knowing the stories I can say that I'd probably liken them to the first ME game in impact and overall quality. It's important to note that they disregarded a lot of stuff (where are all the other Velvet Room inhabitants?) between 2 and 3, which not quite as many people know about, given that they haven't played the first two. I believe this can lead to some incorrect assumptions about Persona keeping up its continuity better than ME did.