Poll: Which would you rather have?

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Turbo_Destructor

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I don't know if the whole communism, and totalitarian governmental continuous evaluation of whether people should live or die would be necessary. I also doubt that any humans (flawed as we are) could be trusted with such power. However, the best thing for the planet would indeed be culling a billion people or so. Mind you I still don't think this is a desirable course of action, I'm neither callous nor a sociopath, I'm simply saying that environmentally speaking, the best thing to do would be to remove at least a billion people. But we are certainly no at the stage where this is the only option. And I don't mind admitting that if my number was up, I would showing strong disagreement with such a strategy :)
 

Irishhoodlum

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I cannot think of a worse environment for innovation than Option 1. Ingenuity is severely limited by pressure, and Option 1 would be an incredible failure in any department related to progress. Not to mention how susceptible it would be to the corrupted government that would inevitably rise to power. Honestly, you think the Dictator/people in power would let their pampered families who contribute fuck all to "society" get killed? Not to mention what purpose would this government serve? It's essentially sacrificed all hopes of happiness for what can only loosely be defined as progress, but really what would the point be of preserving human life on Earth if no one actually enjoyed living it. Either your friend is trolling or he's incredibly ignorant as goes for everyone who even considered option 1.s

Option 2 isn't much better since complete anarchy is practically impossible, which by the way you should be thankful for. Given human nature a government is more or less required, but one that's uniformly democratic. And if its constituents want its power to be severely limited so be it, but you need something to enforce laws, education, construct hospitals, roads, infrastructure etc.

The problem with both options is that they're extreme, and just as no one rational will pick Nazi Fascism or extreme Communism, no one is going to pick Option 1 nor 2. You need a government yes, and given those circumstances regulation on population may be required (encouraging birth control, limitations on the number of children per household such as in China etc.), but there are limits and killing your own people clearly crosses that line (there is no instance in history where this has been a good idea).
 

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Id say some where in the middle but i chose the second one. With people who dont offer anything to society except another burden (criminals etc) they should either be killed or put into the military or public works projects. This way they add something instead of being a total drain.
 

BlindMessiah94

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Option 1 is too extreme. Your friend has no idea what he is talking about. The world is not going to "fall to anarchy" or anything like that anytime soon unless some apocalyptic act happened, which doesn't benefit anyone. Unless someone solely had the intent to dissolve the world into anarchy and had a systematic plan to implement such apocalyptic plans, its not happening.

This coming from a cynic who believes democracy is just an illusion between people with power and those without.

I could care less about the "continued survival of the human race" to be quite frank, but I would not want to live in his society. I would sooner go live on a boat in the middle of nowhere than be subject to those crazy nonsensical laws.
 

Phlakes

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Although I believe many humans are a waste of resources, I don't agree with most of the conditions of option 1.
 

shinigamisparda

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darkfire613 said:
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How about you? Which side would you go with? Would you rather live in a society where the government decides who is worthless, and those people are killed? Or would you rather live in anarchy, but still have your freedoms?
Option two for sure. I'll be the first to admit that the world is overpopulated, and in my opinion it's because of things like medicine. Darwinism states that the weak are killed off in order to make a stronger future for the species, and due to scientific and technological advances in medicine we've now been able to keep a substantial amount of those who should've been killed off alive (Christ, I sound like Albert Wesker!).

However, I stand up for humanity and a mindset on being social creatures. The only thing worse than death is scheduled and systematic death. Besides, if we have true anarchy it'll fix the problem anyway! People will be violently be killing each other off left and right, so the problem of overpopulation will fix itself in the end!

Or, you know, we might bring about our own extinction, but that's a risk I'm willing to take.
 

GrinningManiac

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If you remove the humanity, what's the point in keeping the humans?

It's like a car with all the seats and cabin-stuff ripped. Sure, the engine still runs and you can make it go places, but you don't want to (and can't) use it yourself and you don't particularly want to.
 

Bourne Endeavor

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If you desire to maintain the population yet not commit mass genocide. Simply sterilize half the population and everything will sort itself out in that regard. Frankly, if I had my way. I would seek to development a 'sterilization' be preformed at birth, yet that cured at a later interval under specific circumstances. Proper income, intelligence and the whole nine yards.

Nonetheless, to stay on topic. Option 2, if only because I disagree with pressuring those who have earned their wealth. Innovation and creativity require freedom. I am a writer and believe you me, when pressured, my brain is mush.
 

Theninja'skatana

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Both are a little extreme.
Why not balance?
How about option 3:
Give rewards for not having kids?
Maybe excute criminals in jail convicted of serious crimes?
Dropping some people who "aren;t of value from social security?
Joining together as the UN permenatly and shunning the other nations?

Hey grim times call for grim measures but we still are human!