Poll: Who has been turned off PSV by Memory Pricing?
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xD Well, damn. Guess I'll just ignore this thing 'till outside parties start to release memory cards and the price is down.
Got a 54mb memory card for the PS2 at 20$ then saw an 8mb for 20$ by Sony.
Hm, 20$ for a controller made by iCon or 60$ for one made by Sony... lol
I always found it amusing how much the company charges, yet outside developer's can make devices with simmular quality for half or even less then half the price.
Got a 54mb memory card for the PS2 at 20$ then saw an 8mb for 20$ by Sony.
Hm, 20$ for a controller made by iCon or 60$ for one made by Sony... lol
I always found it amusing how much the company charges, yet outside developer's can make devices with simmular quality for half or even less then half the price.
OutrageousEmu said:
Life ain't fair. I ain't going to give PSV a free pass just because it is new.
Sony COULD make a console based on x86 architecture, plug into steam and use all Steam games is synchronicity like the Windows/Mac relationship on Steam, but they aren't. Some way so out the box it has an inherently large collection of games, like how PS2's backwards compatibility with extra texture-processing was a great feature.
As a result they are ending up with a far too limited library to justify its cost. At least, for the foreseeable future (next few years).
Well, if it is "on the same level" as PS3 that is a VERY broad level! And I don't hold PS3's graphics in very high regard.
As to on the same level, have you played the likes of Rage HD on iPod Touch? Or Infinity Blade? These games are good for not depending on twin thumbsticks but touchscreen controls and the precision of a Gyroscope. They also look damn good and are not too deep, they are simple short games easy to drop in and drop out.
Yes, I suppose you won't find a game precisely the same as Gravity Rush(Daze) on PC, but there are games of equivalent worth and originality. It's hardly worth spending hundreds of dollars to get access to. I suspect I'll pick up the PSV many MANY years from now, probably after the system is dead. OR just wait for Sony to relent and release such games on PS3.
Well, I am not elaborating on my life for brevity, I DID state I have other engagements and gave only two examples as the details of my life aren't really relevant, only my general situation. Though since you insinuate I'm a loner I do spend a lot of my time at a local internet cafe where I'm friends with the owner, we often hang out after hours and are working on a minecraft mod. And whether drinking, in a play or mod building there is no place for a PSV in all of that.
And I mean Rage HD on iOS (not the PC/360 version which was a bit "what's the point?") for to spite its negative reviews has a really compelling control scheme, that was not available at time of reviews but well after as an update. The gyro control scheme, amazingly precise, I could shake the device around like a madman and it still tracks orientation without lag, it was like a laser pointer through a "virtual window".
I WAS keen on PSV as a companion to my PS3, but the cost has clearly ballooned far out out of control, the PSV is clearly too powerful for Sony to sell it at a competitive price, without gouging us somewhere else. I like all the controls (rear touchscreen, thumbsticks, medium-sized multi-touch) but it could do without a quad-core and such powerful graphics. Handheld is supposed to be simple but flexible games.
Things like Crysis or Uncharted aren't suitable on a 5-inch screen in often bright sunlight, but games with broad and simple graphics like Minecraft or WoW that are easy to discern and easy to render! I'm not expecting Black Ops on PSV, I'm expecting Xotic, Aaaa Reckles.. Gravity, Cave Story +, Defy Gravity, Jamestown and Breath of Death VII
PSP tried to be "Almost a PS2 in your pocket" and it suffered for it. PSV needs to be PSV, not "PS2.5-Pocket-Edition".
Alphonse_Lamperouge said:
So... PSV's markout feature is a horribly overrated ponderous piece of self-indulgent trash getting a pointless HD re-releases because Square-Enix is so creatively bankrupt they can't make a new game worth serious consideration. I put over 20 hours in Final Fantasy X hoping to get ANYTHING of worth out of it, and you know what, a HD up-res won't help what a soul-crushing chore that game is.
Yeah, case closed!
sounds like someone got stuck on the first Sin battle....its ok, we are all noobs at some pointTreblaine said:
The game was not hard. It was EASY. It was boring. The battles were exercises in tedium, not in strategy.Alphonse_Lamperouge said:sounds like someone got stuck on the first Sin battle....its ok, we are all noobs at some pointTreblaine said:
And 20 hours in, nothing happened that I gave a flying crap about at its plodding pace and THEN the little semblance of the plot just gives up and freewheels on nothing for a few hours. I gave that game so much time to get good and it didn't.
My mistake: believing that millions of Final Fantasy fans could not be wrong.
They were wrong. They were ALL so SO wrong.
It was a coming of age for me, I realised how blinded people could be by fanboyism. That I'd later see the same in myself as a huge MGS fan it took me so long to accept that MGS2 was a pile of wank, I'd try to rationalise the incongruous bullshit, the betrayals, the lazy superficial crap.
Well... The vita may be a great gaming console, and it may save the gaming industry from a economic catastrophe. But no Vita for me... They've priced themselves out of the market. It's like what they did with the PSP, only a lot less severe. They over estimate how much people actually want that shit.
Sony only do this shit because handhelds are so popular in Japan. But that's the point, they are popular in Japan, but nowhere else. The west would much rather have consoles... It's just a marketing fact.
Sony only do this shit because handhelds are so popular in Japan. But that's the point, they are popular in Japan, but nowhere else. The west would much rather have consoles... It's just a marketing fact.
agreed on both of these.believer258 said:
i mean jesus, someone has a a anti sony stick stuck way up their ass..
yeah those cards might be a bit expensive, but i've seen worse from other companies as well, and like said, it's almost a guarantee 3rd party companies will come along to help even out some pricing, and unless you want to carry your whole library with you digitally, this isn't a big deal at all.
I'm still getting the system regardless.
The prices don't surprise me, nor should anyone else be surprised at this. Sony has always been about pushing their proprietary products for good or worse. Admittedly it did piss me off at first when they decided not to use their existing pro-duo sticks because that would have made sense. Then again, I understand WHY they decided on this route for two reasons.
1) Piracy- They will not entirely eliminate piracy, but they are taking what they learned from the PSP and applying it in their designs to AT LEAST slow it down. The system was rampant with it, and then gamers wondered why "there were no games" for it and why it was rather under supported in the west. This is just one of the few ways they plan on slowing it down even for a bit, especially when there has already been a firmware extractor developed for it (can't be used for piracy...yet).
2) Financial cushioning- Some posters have already elaborated on it so I'll just quote the follow abover me:
Believer258
" I'd also bet that these expensive proprietary memory cards are to make up for any losses they might be taking. You people do know that new consoles are almost always sold at a loss, right? That's a huge risk for any business to take, even if your safety net is as big as Sony's. These prices are probably just to soften the blow a bit, at least for a little while."
Besides that, I plan on pre-ordering my Vita which for an extra 50 bucks, comes with a 4GB stick (enough for saves, DLC, and a little extra), AND a game. Wi-fi model + 4GB stick + game = $300 and I get it all a week prior to official release. This bundle is very appealing and even cost efficient for early adopters.
Now given the prices of these sticks, that means with this bundle you essentially get a free mem stick or free game whichever way you look at it. That extra 50 bucks pays off the $40 for the mem stick, and get the game for pretty much nothing.
Besides, chances are there will be third party sticks a few weeks/months down the line for a cheaper cost. Or hell someone may make an adapter like they did with the PSP to allow micro SD cards to work on it. So quit pissing and moaning and have a little patience, and take a minute to think about it all before resorting to these knee-jerk reactions.
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Overall though, I'm still getting a Vita because of the fucking GAMES. Remember? the sole reason to buy a system?
Taking a gander at the ever growing list of game at launch and post launch, I can't help but get excited because there is just so much there that catches my eye. It's one of the strongest launch line ups I have ever seen with a host of games targeted at almost everyone. Coupled with the amazing hardware, and the excellent price (you are stupid if you think $250 is too much), it's just such an enticing package for me.
Hell the battery life doesn't bother me all that much, I'll just buy that battery add-on to get that extra playing time out of it if I want. Seriously, with hardware THAT powerful, why is it so fucking surprising and terrible that the battery life is what it is? Why the hell did ANYONE think that a portable with power almost on part with current gen consoles would have a standard battery life of anywhere over even 10 hours? I'm sure it's possible, but then you run in to the issue of COST again. They could make it bigger, but that would mark up the price point which then just leads to more bitching. Compromises have to be made to get a proper balance of battery, horsepower, heat, cost, ect...
I'm sure down the line there will be a more power efficient model with greater battery life. If you are unhappy with that, just fucking be patient and WAIT, because chances are you aren't an early adopter to begin with.
OK I've rambled on for long enough to make people know my stance on the whole Vita thing. I'm looking forward to it and am getting it despite a few issues that I initially expected to have anyways. Just...this is getting annoying with people and their petty, alarmist complaints that show they haven't properly thought this shit through; or they were never interested in the thing to begin with so they just gotta waltz in and be all contrarian.
And it's annoying....just stop it already.
/rant
Sorry if I may have come off as kinda douchey near the end, I'm pumped full of caffeine and some of these comments have just angried up the blood.
The prices don't surprise me, nor should anyone else be surprised at this. Sony has always been about pushing their proprietary products for good or worse. Admittedly it did piss me off at first when they decided not to use their existing pro-duo sticks because that would have made sense. Then again, I understand WHY they decided on this route for two reasons.
1) Piracy- They will not entirely eliminate piracy, but they are taking what they learned from the PSP and applying it in their designs to AT LEAST slow it down. The system was rampant with it, and then gamers wondered why "there were no games" for it and why it was rather under supported in the west. This is just one of the few ways they plan on slowing it down even for a bit, especially when there has already been a firmware extractor developed for it (can't be used for piracy...yet).
2) Financial cushioning- Some posters have already elaborated on it so I'll just quote the follow abover me:
Believer258
" I'd also bet that these expensive proprietary memory cards are to make up for any losses they might be taking. You people do know that new consoles are almost always sold at a loss, right? That's a huge risk for any business to take, even if your safety net is as big as Sony's. These prices are probably just to soften the blow a bit, at least for a little while."
Besides that, I plan on pre-ordering my Vita which for an extra 50 bucks, comes with a 4GB stick (enough for saves, DLC, and a little extra), AND a game. Wi-fi model + 4GB stick + game = $300 and I get it all a week prior to official release. This bundle is very appealing and even cost efficient for early adopters.
Now given the prices of these sticks, that means with this bundle you essentially get a free mem stick or free game whichever way you look at it. That extra 50 bucks pays off the $40 for the mem stick, and get the game for pretty much nothing.
Besides, chances are there will be third party sticks a few weeks/months down the line for a cheaper cost. Or hell someone may make an adapter like they did with the PSP to allow micro SD cards to work on it. So quit pissing and moaning and have a little patience, and take a minute to think about it all before resorting to these knee-jerk reactions.
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Overall though, I'm still getting a Vita because of the fucking GAMES. Remember? the sole reason to buy a system?
Taking a gander at the ever growing list of game at launch and post launch, I can't help but get excited because there is just so much there that catches my eye. It's one of the strongest launch line ups I have ever seen with a host of games targeted at almost everyone. Coupled with the amazing hardware, and the excellent price (you are stupid if you think $250 is too much), it's just such an enticing package for me.
Hell the battery life doesn't bother me all that much, I'll just buy that battery add-on to get that extra playing time out of it if I want. Seriously, with hardware THAT powerful, why is it so fucking surprising and terrible that the battery life is what it is? Why the hell did ANYONE think that a portable with power almost on part with current gen consoles would have a standard battery life of anywhere over even 10 hours? I'm sure it's possible, but then you run in to the issue of COST again. They could make it bigger, but that would mark up the price point which then just leads to more bitching. Compromises have to be made to get a proper balance of battery, horsepower, heat, cost, ect...
I'm sure down the line there will be a more power efficient model with greater battery life. If you are unhappy with that, just fucking be patient and WAIT, because chances are you aren't an early adopter to begin with.
OK I've rambled on for long enough to make people know my stance on the whole Vita thing. I'm looking forward to it and am getting it despite a few issues that I initially expected to have anyways. Just...this is getting annoying with people and their petty, alarmist complaints that show they haven't properly thought this shit through; or they were never interested in the thing to begin with so they just gotta waltz in and be all contrarian.
And it's annoying....just stop it already.
/rant
Sorry if I may have come off as kinda douchey near the end, I'm pumped full of caffeine and some of these comments have just angried up the blood.
£230 + £20?
Yeah, I'd still buy that at a push. I'd play more games than that amount of memory could hold, but not quick enough to merit spending more the first time round.
Tbh, I think the fact that the price of the console in the UK isn't adjusted to the value of the pound to the dollar is a more bitter pill to swallow (for people in the UK, obviously). I mean, the price of $250 is ridiculous enough to me as is, the fact that it isn't £160 is just stupid. What the hell are Sony doing that merits them whacking up the price by £70? If it's non-regional, I'm ordering from the US.
Yeah, I'd still buy that at a push. I'd play more games than that amount of memory could hold, but not quick enough to merit spending more the first time round.
Tbh, I think the fact that the price of the console in the UK isn't adjusted to the value of the pound to the dollar is a more bitter pill to swallow (for people in the UK, obviously). I mean, the price of $250 is ridiculous enough to me as is, the fact that it isn't £160 is just stupid. What the hell are Sony doing that merits them whacking up the price by £70? If it's non-regional, I'm ordering from the US.
Yea I feel sorry for EU and Aussie gamers, you guys always get the shaft when it comes to the pricing, and it is rather baffling why they don't properly adjust prices. Thankfully, it IS region free if price and even certain region specific titles are a concern.jessegeek said:
It's been known for some time that it would be region free, it's mainly Nintendo that seems to pull this region locking bullshit with their hardware. Funny how the DS was from what I gathered, region free, but then they go an pull the region lock BS with the 3DS...which is just silly and draconian.
Two, two TWO strawmen for the price of one!OutrageousEmu said:
Nobody claimed that anyone was making us play it. Still doesn't make it a feather in their cap.
...Sorry, did I actually just address the real point of contention instead of arguing against a fictitious one? I'll work on that later.
Damn, the Playstation 5 is out already?
Oh, you mean the Vita. I don't really care about the pricing issue, in the end the price ends up being about 370$ if you're looking to get the whole shebang, which is pretty much what I expected anyway.
If I were to get it I wouldn't even need that many gigs in the first place, I'd probably pick up the 30 dollar one. I don't want to download games onto it anyway, that the was the main reason I never got a PSP GO.
I guess you could wait for the prices to drop.
Oh, you mean the Vita. I don't really care about the pricing issue, in the end the price ends up being about 370$ if you're looking to get the whole shebang, which is pretty much what I expected anyway.
If I were to get it I wouldn't even need that many gigs in the first place, I'd probably pick up the 30 dollar one. I don't want to download games onto it anyway, that the was the main reason I never got a PSP GO.
I guess you could wait for the prices to drop.
