Poll: Who is in the right here?

[NIHILHATE]

If you're gonna be a dick, face the consequences. Simple as.

 

[devilkingx]

Isn't this something like having an unruly customer pissing off other customers in a bar and having the owner/employee kicking the unruly customer from the establishment? Its in the interest of the business to remove such customers, no?

Edit: On a funnier note, this [http://www.indiewire.com/article/alamo_drafthouse_kicks_out_customer_for_texting_creates_an_excellent_new_ps].

it'd be like your scenario if the bar owner also confiscated all his drinks when they kicked him out and didnt give him a refund

 

[WaruTaru]

Isn't this something like having an unruly customer pissing off other customers in a bar and having the owner/employee kicking the unruly customer from the establishment? Its in the interest of the business to remove such customers, no?

Edit: On a funnier note, this [http://www.indiewire.com/article/alamo_drafthouse_kicks_out_customer_for_texting_creates_an_excellent_new_ps].

it'd be like your scenario if the bar owner also confiscated all his drinks when they kicked him out and didnt give him a refund

How so? The troll still had all his games with him. EA didn't send some representative to confiscate his games now, did they?

 

[TheTaco007]

That's ridiculous. Ban him from the forums, sure, but the game itself which he wasn't even playing at the time? Not acceptable.

 

[Death God]

If it was a charge of harassment on the forums, no. If it was harassment for Xbox Live, yes. All kind of depends.

 

[EvilPicnic]

Hmmm, sounds like he was being obnoxious on the forums and whilst I back up any mods with following through on a forum ban, it really shouldn't effect his consumer purchases.

I mean, you can get banned on this forum for 'low content' - imagine if you had a games account attached and you then lost hundreds of dollars in content because of a snap decision by a moderator? However fairly mods make decisions, they're still often making them alone, fairly quickly, and (depending on the culture of the forum) without oversight.

Yet another dick move by EA. They should follow Gabe Newell's example from today: admit their mistake, and get fixing it. And employ more helpful support staff (I had a chat with XboxLive support today - they were very helpful, and actually supportive).

 

[devilkingx]

Isn't this something like having an unruly customer pissing off other customers in a bar and having the owner/employee kicking the unruly customer from the establishment? Its in the interest of the business to remove such customers, no?

Edit: On a funnier note, this [http://www.indiewire.com/article/alamo_drafthouse_kicks_out_customer_for_texting_creates_an_excellent_new_ps].

it'd be like your scenario if the bar owner also confiscated all his drinks when they kicked him out and didnt give him a refund

How so? The troll still had all his games with him. EA didn't send some representative to confiscate his games now, did they?

battlefield 3 isnt borderlands you know

in borderlands multiplayer is optional and the game can be played enjoyed and beaten without it, and thus losing borderlands multiplayer wouldnt be a big deal

battlefield 3 is in the same vein as call of duty without fully removing single player like MAG

TECHNICALLY it has a singleplayer but its probably 5 hours like COD's story and not worth your time or attention, like most FPS's not having multiplayer means you have a $60 paperweight

BF3 IS AN EXPENSIVE PAPERWEIGHT WITHOUT MULTIPLAYER

by taking away its online they have basically taken away any and all reason to play BF3 its the equivalent of using some form of witchcraft to remove the alcohol and sugar from your drinks as you leave the bar(effectively making them all worthless because most alcohols taste bad and are only drunk for the alcohol and the ones that taste good wouldnt without the sugar) you still got the drinks they are just useless and not worth money

 

[WaruTaru]

battlefield 3 isnt borderlands you know

in borderlands multiplayer is optional and the game can be played enjoyed and beaten without it, and thus losing borderlands multiplayer wouldnt be a big deal

battlefield 3 is in the same vein as call of duty without fully removing single player like MAG

TECHNICALLY it has a singleplayer but its probably 5 hours like COD's story and not worth your time or attention, like most FPS's not having multiplayer means you have a $60 paperweight

BF3 IS AN EXPENSIVE PAPERWEIGHT WITHOUT MULTIPLAYER

by taking away its online they have basically taken away any and all reason to play BF3 its the equivalent of using some form of witchcraft to remove the alcohol and sugar from your drinks as you leave the bar(effectively making them all worthless because most alcohols taste bad and are only drunk for the alcohol and the ones that taste good wouldnt without the sugar) you still got the drinks they are just useless and not worth money

I agree. BF3 is an expensive paperweight. So the troll bought an expensive paperweight. It is still his paperweight. No one's taken his paperweight away from him. The bits of code are still inside his discs/hard drive, and no one actually removed them. On the contrary, it is quite different from physically removing sugar and alcohol from my drinks. You see, to remove them in such a way that it replicates what happened to said troll, you first need to give them to me. If by some unfortunate circumstances I drank it, you would have to find some way to extract said sugar and alcohol from my body, a task that is quite formidable, truth be told. A task so formidable that you need to employ witchcraft to have a modicum of success. Even if you somehow managed that, you still took something away from me physically, unlike the abstract notion of "multiplayer", but I digress.

For argument's sake, lets assume he bought that piece of $10 code that serves as a ticket which allows him access to the multiplayer servers. Where does it say that the piece of code guarantees the troll unlimited access to said servers at all times and without restrictions? Mere payment of the entrance fees does not give one a right to be jerks to every other patron within the establishment.

Its time people learn how to behave on forums amicably. Simple banning of forum account is apparently insufficient for teaching such lessons.

 

[devilkingx]

battlefield 3 isnt borderlands you know

in borderlands multiplayer is optional and the game can be played enjoyed and beaten without it, and thus losing borderlands multiplayer wouldnt be a big deal

battlefield 3 is in the same vein as call of duty without fully removing single player like MAG

TECHNICALLY it has a singleplayer but its probably 5 hours like COD's story and not worth your time or attention, like most FPS's not having multiplayer means you have a $60 paperweight

BF3 IS AN EXPENSIVE PAPERWEIGHT WITHOUT MULTIPLAYER

by taking away its online they have basically taken away any and all reason to play BF3 its the equivalent of using some form of witchcraft to remove the alcohol and sugar from your drinks as you leave the bar(effectively making them all worthless because most alcohols taste bad and are only drunk for the alcohol and the ones that taste good wouldnt without the sugar) you still got the drinks they are just useless and not worth money

I agree. BF3 is an expensive paperweight. So the troll bought an expensive paperweight. It is still his paperweight. No one's taken his paperweight away from him. The bits of code are still inside his discs/hard drive, and no one actually removed them. On the contrary, it is quite different from physically removing sugar and alcohol from my drinks. You see, to remove them in such a way that it replicates what happened to said troll, you first need to give them to me. If by some unfortunate circumstances I drank it, you would have to find some way to extract said sugar and alcohol from my body, a task that is quite formidable, truth be told. A task so formidable that you need to employ witchcraft to have a modicum of success. Even if you somehow managed that, you still took something away from me physically, unlike the abstract notion of "multiplayer", but I digress.

For argument's sake, lets assume he bought that piece of $10 code that serves as a ticket which allows him access to the multiplayer servers. Where does it say that the piece of code guarantees the troll unlimited access to said servers at all times and without restrictions? Mere payment of the entrance fees does not give one a right to be jerks to every other patron within the establishment.

Its time people learn how to behave on forums amicably. Simple banning of forum account is apparently insufficient for teaching such lessons.

they didnt even TRY banning his account

they immediately banned him from his game

regardless of your opinion, they ARE NOT allowed to TAKE AWAY features YOU PAID FOR unless you do something IN GAME to warrant it, if you hack in BF3 then yes perma ban you you've proven you dont deserve BF3, but he didnt do anything in game, hell theres no proof he wasnt just making a joke that got blown out of proportion because some people are stupid enough to take what is said on the internet seriously

if he does anything short of hacking IN BATTLEFIELD 3 then he should not be banned from battlfield 3, and if he is banned from ANYTHING it should ONLY be where he has committed the offense and nowhere but

 

[WaruTaru]

they didnt even TRY banning his account

they immediately banned him from his game

Bradley:

I'm going to tell you what you said to get banned. "Seen any Israely or American jets flying by, lately?.. If not, you

will, soon.. This was also your second offense to get you banned.

That is the direct quote from the source. He was banned once prior to this.

regardless of your opinion, they ARE NOT allowed to TAKE AWAY features YOU PAID FOR unless you do something IN GAME to warrant it, if you hack in BF3 then yes perma ban you you've proven you dont deserve BF3, but he didnt do anything in game, hell theres no proof he wasnt just making a joke that got blown out of proportion because some people are stupid enough to take what is said on the internet seriously

if he does anything short of hacking IN BATTLEFIELD 3 then he should not be banned from battlfield 3, and if he is banned from ANYTHING it should ONLY be where he has committed the offense and nowhere but

Oh? No more alcohol and sugar? I kind of enjoyed that bit. Very well.

You can do whatever you damn well please as long as its "short of hacking" and no one can ban you for it? Right...let's just end this conversation here.

 

[devilkingx]

they didnt even TRY banning his account

they immediately banned him from his game

Bradley:

I'm going to tell you what you said to get banned. "Seen any Israely or American jets flying by, lately?.. If not, you

will, soon.. This was also your second offense to get you banned.

That is the direct quote from the source. He was banned once prior to this.

regardless of your opinion, they ARE NOT allowed to TAKE AWAY features YOU PAID FOR unless you do something IN GAME to warrant it, if you hack in BF3 then yes perma ban you you've proven you dont deserve BF3, but he didnt do anything in game, hell theres no proof he wasnt just making a joke that got blown out of proportion because some people are stupid enough to take what is said on the internet seriously

if he does anything short of hacking IN BATTLEFIELD 3 then he should not be banned from battlfield 3, and if he is banned from ANYTHING it should ONLY be where he has committed the offense and nowhere but

Oh? No more alcohol and sugar? I kind of enjoyed that bit. Very well.

You can do whatever you damn well please as long as its "short of hacking" and no one can ban you for it? Right...let's just end this conversation here.

...in game i meant, meaning the only time you should ever be banned from any part of the game you paid for is when you really do something bad that ruins it for others who have paid for it(nothing you say will ruin someones game, it isnt your fault people take the words of an anonymous angry stranger seriously), and you should only be punished in the medium you commited the offense, IE hack in battlefield 3 be banned from battlefield 3 AND NOTHING ELSE be a racist asshole on the forums BE BANNED FROM THE FORUMS AND NOWHERE ELSE commit bannable offenses on both THEN AND ONLY THEN SHOULD YOU BE PUNISHED ON BOTH