Poll: Who really wants a new console?

Recommended Videos

Delicious Anathema

New member
Aug 25, 2009
261
0
0
I want Nintendo to soup up the Wii U to be comparable to the other new consoles, but seeing as they're playing a different game and considering the fact that I've become a little tired of their franchises, this may be the first major Nintendo console I don't buy.

Got my eyes on the Xbox Loop definitely.
 

Fumofu

New member
Nov 11, 2010
85
0
0
Wow, the poll is currently even at 28 votes each. Actually thought the Escapist would be more clear about their opinion.

OT: I wouldn't oppose a new console generation but the only thing that would annoy me is if they are not backwards compatible. That said, I'll probably wait a while before I purchase them.
 

GonzoGamer

New member
Apr 9, 2008
7,060
0
0
The consoles this generation have been so horribly disappointing but I don't think launching a bunch of new ones will fix anything.

I don't trust MS or Sony at all and I don't see myself buying any of their future consoles.
 

natster43

New member
Jul 10, 2009
2,457
0
0
I am totally or newer consoles soon. I am looking forward to the Wiiu, and a new generation means more power and innovation in games. Really the only downside would be having to pay more probably for the new systems.
 

DanielBrown

Dangerzone!
Dec 3, 2010
3,837
0
0
Im not intrested in getting a new one for a few years, so I voted no, but I still think that Tayh has a good point.

Tayh said:
Because, if everyone thought like you, we'd still be playing Super Mario Bro's style games. Technology advancement would stagnate.

Also, it would give modern game development a push, allowing them to advance beyond the boundaries currently set by the console limitations.
QFT.
 

Bvenged

New member
Sep 4, 2009
1,202
0
0
Codenamed Xbox Loop - likely to be entirely backwards compatible with the 360, except it allows developers MUCH more freedom with hardware and software - because not doing that in teh technology-cloud today not too long after hitting the 66mil. console sales mark wouldn't be the greatest idea for high initial sales.

I would love DX11 in my 360.
I would love total cross controller-kinect functionality (which will be with it).
I would love a quad core.
I would love blue ray discs and true 1080p/i not up-scaled.
I would love 4Gb RAM.
I would love better functionality with my household computers.

With technology these days, there is always room for improvement.
 

Fleetfiend

New member
Jun 1, 2011
479
0
0
I can see what they are making more... there are obvious reasons, improvement being the #1. But I am honestly fine with what I have, so I'm hoping it will be a while before we see the next generation of gaming.
 

LunaticPanda

New member
Sep 12, 2011
28
0
0
My opinion depends on execution, if we have a method of play that innovates and actually offers something fundamentally different and engaging than to what we currently have, I'm all for it. If the idea is to clone the entire current generation just to add some suitably large sounding jargon-filled number to the whatever-drive. Then I'll pass on the spending large amounts of money on nothing but a glorified glorified glorified PlayStation One.
 

XMark

New member
Jan 25, 2010
1,408
0
0
This is already going to be the longest console generation in history. I'd say 2013 is the best time for a new generation. If they delay too long, everyone's gonna go back to PC gaming.
 

Catfood220

Elite Member
Legacy
Dec 21, 2010
2,146
406
88
Well apparently Sony are sticking to their 10 year plan.

http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/887048-no-playstation-4-announcement-at-e3-says-sony

I bet that we see a PS4 sooner rather than later, but to fair I can wait for new system.
 

Fiz_The_Toaster

books, Books, BOOKS
Legacy
Jan 19, 2011
5,496
1
3
Country
United States
Not right now I don't, I'm perfectly fine with them at the moment, except the Wii, and Sony just said they're gonna stick to their 10 year span with the PS3.

In two years I will probably be okay with a new console generation from the others.
 

Funkysandwich

Contra Bassoon
Jan 15, 2010
758
0
0
Yeah, I want a console upgrade. Today's more complex games are straining the hardware of our consoles. A lot of current games have framerate issues on consoles (like Saint's Row 3) and I don't think gaming can advance much without better hardware.

Also, getting DX11 consoles would be awesome, DX9 is really old and it would be great if more games could take advantage of proper DX11 features, instead of sandwiching them in half-arsedly on the PC.
 

Joccaren

Elite Member
Mar 29, 2011
2,597
3
43
You will still be able to play your Xbox 360 for a few more years. Thing is, you won't get the better more awesome games on it because it can't run them. There isn't more that can be done with current Technology. There is a new console generation needed - even if you don't want to use it.

Consoles have been holding back gaming for a while, and I'm not just talking PCs. The longer we stay in this generation, the less new stuff we will get. Hell, some devs like Crytek may even become PC exclusive as they become sick of trying to make their games work on consoles.

With new hardware we get the possibility of better AI, better Graphics, larger levels, more possible interactions within those levels, widened FoV, you may get splitscreen with high detail again, more things on screen at once, higher framerates, dependent on whether bandwidth limits are raised too larger online matches - everything will improve. Hell, the market when a new console comes out is high-risk, which will allow devs to make more games that aren't simply clones of others.

If you don't want anything to improve, don't buy the new console. Stay playing these same old games on your Xbox 360, and let us play the new stuff.

Hell, if you're worried about how expensive it will be - get a PC. I can guarantee you a lot of people with PCs from 6 years ago won't have to upgrade when this console cycle ends. They may choose to by choice, but their PC will last through the next gen of consoles too, maybe with a $100 graphics card upgrade midway through.

That said, it will come down to the specs. If they have 1Gb RAM, a single core processor a little faster than the previous, a 320Gb Drive and the effect of a 9800GTX, not worth it (The 9800 was a legendary card, yes, but it does not support modern gaming features, and is not properly equipped to live in this day and age).
What I expect from them to be worth a purchase would be 6Gb RAM, Quad Core processor, 1Tb Drive and the effect of a 560Ti. That will bring them on par with mid range gaming computers. They'll still be outdated by hardware standards, but not by a ton, and especially not when compared to the low end gaming computers.

What I find amusing is that everyone supports the Wii upgrading, 'because it needs it', whilst the Xbox and PS apparently don't. IMO, its the other way round. The Wii is fine for what it tries to accomplish: Casual gaming experiences with low end graphics, made to be that entertaining thing that you sit down and pay for a laugh.
The Xbox and PS are now failing at their goal - to provide a cross between hardcore and casual gaming, where you can play games not only that you just sit down and laugh whilst playing on a Sunday morning, but also where you can play the new and latest games in a competitive fashion.
They get 30FPS BF3, on the effect of low settings. That's not competitive. Games like Dark Souls lag at times, and they'd hardly be taxing games on even semi-reasonable hardware. The PS3 is having bad lag problems with Skyrim. The PC version, according to some modders who edit the engine, is not at all optimised for the PC, yet a mid range PC will play it without problems.

There is no reason not to make a new generation of consoles, and there is no reason not to make them well. These consoles were fine for six years ago, and have now outlived their usefulness. Devs have to spend money finding ways to make consoles run games, as opposed to just making them and knowing the hardware will handle it. Things need to change. You want your old games, play your current consoles and don't buy new ones. You want good new games, put the money into getting that new console, or get a PC. Don't expect your bad old hardware to be able to run the new stuff though, or get upset like that guy on Youtube who was pissed that the console version of BF3 was streamlined. Live with your choice, but let us have a choice.
 

infohippie

New member
Oct 1, 2009
2,369
0
0
Hell yes I want a new console generation, like yesterday. I don't even own a console nor do I plan on buying one, but I'm tired of my gaming experience being limited by the need to get it to run on the venerable hardware inside current consoles. I want consoles to undergo a vast improvement so developers will be free to use the power I have in my desktop.
 

Lucem712

*Chirp*
Jul 14, 2011
1,470
0
0
I really don't see any substance behind the our games will get much more clone-y and limited if we continued for 2-3 more years. Look at the PS2, it lasted 6 years. We are bordering on that and that's fine. You won't get more innovative games just because the processor is bigger, hell, you'll get more clones because they'll want to sell games, not take a chance on a strange game like Zombie dog fights through other zombies to get back to his family or something. Hardware is expensive, not just to us but to everyone. Sony just started making a profit a year or two ago, you think they want to see red numbers again?
 

babinro

New member
Sep 24, 2010
2,514
0
0
No. I've yet to see any information or ideas that call for a new generation of console. The improvement in terms of graphical output is visually minor. Certainly not enough to warrant what would probably be a $400+ console at launch.

The exception is with the Wii as I feel it's controls are inherently broken. Very few games truly excel with it's motion technology. The Wii needs to revisit how it handles motion controls to make them as flawless as traditional controller output.
 

nklshaz

New member
Nov 27, 2010
244
0
0
Absolutely not. Few companies can even fully utilize the full capabilities of the consoles we already have, we don't need new and more expensive technology to alienate starting developers.
 

Tim Mazzola

New member
Dec 27, 2010
192
0
0
There is so much more that can be done with the current console generation. A change in hardware now sounds a lot like a) A desperate attempt to drain our pockets and b) a massive waste of potential for the current consoles.
 

CrystalShadow

don't upset the insane catgirl
Apr 11, 2009
3,829
0
0
ohnoitsabear said:
I'm surprised that nobody has said that "we don't need a new console generation because the current graphics are fine" or "New hardware will just increase the already high development costs for games" as these statements appear in just about every thread about a new console generation. So, I will preemptively argue against those two points.

Publishers will want games to continue to have better graphics regardless of weather new consoles come out or not. This is because graphics are a very easy and effective selling point (just look at all the praise for Skyrim's graphics).

So, developers have to spend lots of time optimizing code and making graphical workarounds, which add to development costs. And the more the graphics improve on the current consoles, the more time and money it's going to take to do this.

With better hardware, developers will be able to make better graphics without spending as much time and money on optimization, at least at the beginning of the console cycle.

Obviously, there are more factors to the costs of making a game. However, saying that new consoles will increase development costs for graphics is a partially untrue oversimplification.
An interesting argument, but I'm not sure how accurate it is. Sure optimisation isn't easy, but take a good, long look at the credits for a modern high-budget game.

Look very carefully at where most of the people are employed...

Because honestly, as far as I can tell, since 1995 the average game has gone from about 5 programmers to 20...

But in that same period it's gone from about 10 artists, to about 100 or more... I'd bet that the ever-increasing detail expected amounts to more work than the challenges of squeezing a bit more performance out of an ageing console.

Now, it probably is true that a new hardware generation would probably make it possible to keep graphics at about the same level as they are now, while making much less effort.
But... I suspect any dev doing that will field a lot of complaints about it.

(Also ask yourself why the Wii is cheaper to develop for, because by all accounts, it is...)